Thread: Australian has abandoned me: Assange

I really am surprised at the support for this guy and his org.
We, i speaking loosely, are free and happy thankfully.
Ever since this dickhead threw his lot in throwing names and sensitive details, he is pissing people off everywhere aroung the world.
Hey, corruption is rotten, but he ain't exposing corruption, he is a f*cking egoist and all of you who support him support anarchy.
China, Sweden - 3rd. world war with this knobhead.
Come on, throw me the red blobs.

Originally Posted by dobella

I really am surprised at the support for this guy and his org.
We, i speaking loosely, are free and happy thankfully.
Ever since this dickhead threw his lot in throwing names and sensitive details, he is pissing people off everywhere aroung the world.
Hey, corruption is rotten, but he ain't exposing corruption, he is a f*cking egoist and all of you who support him support anarchy.
China, Sweden - 3rd. world war with this knobhead.
Come on, throw me the red blobs.

He's not on an ego trip and rarely speaks about personal issues, heaps of corruption has been exposed,like this little gem about Prince Andrew:
He railed at British anti-corruption investigators, who had had the "idiocy" of almost scuttling the Al-Yamama deal with Saudi Arabia. (NOTE: The Duke was referencing an investigation, subsequently closed, into alleged kickbacks a senior Saudi royal had received in exchange for the multi-year, lucrative BAE Systems contract to provide equipment and training to Saudi security forces. END NOTE.) He then went on to "these (expletive) journalists, especially from the National Guardian, who poke their noses everywhere" and (presumably) make it harder for British businessmen to do business. The crowd practically clapped.

Originally Posted by dobella

all of you who support him support anarchy.

So, to protect the interests of the State, was it criminal to report that Iraq actually did not have WMD's? Should our media lie, so that our governments are protected from being exposed as liars? Is that in the interests of the people?

Prior to the war the media towed the govt line about the WMDs and have done so since.

The Washington Post had a copy of the chopper massacre for at least 12 months before it Wikileaks aired it. One of their journalists wrote a book with a transcript of the conversation, he is now calling Wikileaks 'agenda driven'. Fucking joke!

yes - it has been documented on a few websies that many of the cables wikileaks is publishing have already seen the light of day , with stories published in newspapers

We have some who think Assange is heroic soley because he is Australian, we have some who think Assange is heroic solely because they hate America and we have some who think Assange is heroic because they feel he is a champion of free speech.
I think the former two reasons are most prevelant on Teakdoor.

Originally Posted by baldrick

yes - it has been documented on a few websies that many of the cables wikileaks is publishing have already seen the light of day , with stories published in newspapers

In the case of the Washington Post they had the chopper vdo, but never released it. One of the journalists wrote a book called 'The Good Soldier' where he praised the heroism of the marines. The book received glowing reviews, it's author has won the Pulitzer price.

This is the shit we've been fed by the media, the chopper story received less attention that Tiger's return to golf.

Originally Posted by Humbert

We have some who think Assange is heroic soley because he is Australian, we have some who think Assange is heroic solely because they hate America

you are being a bit unfair here, I think most people hate America politics, not necessarily America and the original idea behind it

there is very little to agree with America politics these days, even the true American patriots can see that. It's a mockery and it's starting to look like the old Europe way of doing things prior to WW1 and WW2.

Originally Posted by Buksida

Prior to the war the media towed the govt line about the WMDs and have done so since.

The Washington Post had a copy of the chopper massacre for at least 12 months before it Wikileaks aired it. One of their journalists wrote a book with a transcript of the conversation, he is now calling Wikileaks 'agenda driven'. Fucking joke!

What chopper massacre ? is it the one where a couple of alleged independent truth-seeking journalists got blasted while they where trying to get footage at an ambush set up by terrorists armed with rocket-launchers and kalashnikovs.

Wonder how many of the videos with coalition service personell getting blown up those nice guys had cheerfully filmed, in the name of truth and transparency of-cause.

Some claim that all those armed men milling about peeking around the corner scooping out the progress of the approaching US Humvee's was just the journalists bodyguards but they probably believe in Father Christmas too.

Telling!- that it is only politically motivated and media people that is still harping on about that, no-one that matters gives a fvuck since it was quite clear what was going down.

It's like this wikileaks thing, "whistle-whiners" and everyone labelling themselves Journalists think that as long as they claim that their actions is in the interest of- free information, transparency ect ect. then they are beyond reproach and moral judgement, even embedding with criminal terrorists to obtain footage of cowardly deadly ambushes.

Oh my, the injustice of it all

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by Buksida

Prior to the war the media towed the govt line about the WMDs and have done so since.

The Washington Post had a copy of the chopper massacre for at least 12 months before it Wikileaks aired it. One of their journalists wrote a book with a transcript of the conversation, he is now calling Wikileaks 'agenda driven'. Fucking joke!

What chopper massacre ? is it the one where a couple of alleged independent truth-seeking journalists got blasted while they where trying to get footage at an ambush set up by terrorists armed with rocket-launchers and kalashnikovs.

No, it's a different incident, I haven't seen the one you refer to. What I saw was a group of men standing in clear view being attacked, two are Reuters journalist.

Then a van comes to pick up the wounded and is also attacked. Kids are wounded and the soldiers says, "Serves 'em right for bringing kids to a battle" - but I didn't see any battle.

Hundreds rally in support of Assange
Annie Gues


About 400 people have gathered in Sydney in support of Mr Assange.
(ABC News: Mark Di Stefano)

Hundreds of protesters gathered in three Australian cities today to rage against the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

About 500 people gathered in Melbourne, 400 in Sydney and about 200 in Brisbane for the rallies which coincided with International Human Rights Day.

Some protesters were wearing face masks as they marched, chanting and waving banners calling for the release of Mr Assange.

He is in custody in London, wanted in Sweden for alleged sexual assault.

"The reason why Julian Assange is facing a [sex assault] charge... is to de-mobilise public support," one protester said.

"Julian Assange is a contemporary hero and we must all rally for him and for the cause."

Another protester said she was a survivor of sexual abuse.

"I know what it is to not be listened to and not be believed. I am standing here today and I am saying free Julian Assange," she said.

"Feminists for free speech are saying loud and clear they will not use our struggle against sexual assault in their struggle against freedom of speech."

Among the speakers to address the Melbourne rally was Mr Assange's Melbourne-based lawyer Rob Stary.

He said the Federal Government should be ashamed of its approach to the issue.

"What we need to do is continue to agitate publicly, we need to agitate with our so-called political representatives, to expose the sham of all this, to support WikiLeaks, to support Julian Assange, to show greater transparency and greater accountability," he said.

In Brisbane, Peter Russo, the lawyer for Dr Mohammad Haneef who was accused of supporting terrorism while working at a Gold Coast hospital, addressed the rally.

He said freedom of society was at stake and called for due process to be followed in court.

"It's an important occasion because it's important that we understand that really what's at stake here is freedom, and it's not only the freedom of the individual, it's the freedom of all of us," he said.

Former Democrats senator and Greens candidate Andrew Bartlett told the rally the Australian public needs to send a strong message to governments all over the world about what he said was the persecution of Mr Assange.

"We do not accept and we do not support governments using their power to persecute individuals, using corporate power, abusing and misusing the law, calling publicly for individuals who've not even been accused of any crime to be assassinated, to be called a terrorist," he said.

Greens Upper House MP Lee Rhiannon was among those at the Sydney rally to lash out at the Federal Government's stance against WikiLeaks.

"Now we have seen over the years from successive Coalition and Labor governments doing whatever the US administration wants," she said.

"So right now Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Attorney-General Robert McClelland have really gone too far. Ms Gillard, shame. Absolute shame."

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In my local supermarket in Leicester, England this week they were selling the newspaper 'Muslim News'.
Big banner headline read 'WIKILEAKS - READ IT ALL HERE'.
Al Queada, Leicester brigade will mobilise into full drive no doubt.
I am all for freedom of speach but not at any cost, diplomats have a right to privacy as do you and i in our work place.
Anyone who believes everything should be free to view/hear is extremely naive in this modern world.

Originally Posted by dobella

I am all for freedom of speach but not at any cost, diplomats have a right to privacy as do you and i in our work place.
Anyone who believes everything should be free to view/hear is extremely naive in this modern world.

And you believe that the government has the right to lie to its electorate as well I presume?