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If we don't understand the beginning how can we understand the end? And if we continue to see things as only having a start and finish then we will never see the truth. Quote; Jeremia after 2 bottles of wine..
There's a new theory of the universe where time can be converted into mass and length - this model works without any big bang. There's also no beginning, and no end.

That's why I prefer it. The whole big bang thing is, frankly, just dumb. Does it make sense? No. So why should we have our best physicists working on "making it work anyway"? A waste of time, and I conclude with an Einstein quote: Imagination is more important than knowledge.

Details here: Model describes universe with no big bang, no beginning, and no end

This new model is not fleshed out in the full, there are many things that don't work. But the same is true for the big bang theory. In any case, until a better model comes along, this one's good to me.
I prefer the big bang. Quite aside from the evidence, as far as that can go with current understanding, it provides for a logical beginning and a logical end.

The only alternative that offers a plausible though absurd beginning are the god, or so called intelligent design theories. For starters, consider the intelligence of an infinite power and wisdom stranded in nothingness for an absolute eternity. Not very bright at all. Then suddenly it is struck by first the concept and then the thought to create a universe. And anyway, those thoughts could not have originated without at least a spark of energy, which could not have existed in nothingness.

As to the end, in terms of god theory, a bit implausible that having taken the trouble to create an entire universe, which has to be perfect since otherwise god is imperfect, that there's any point in ending it. Unless the infinite wisdom has second thoughts and decides to restore its previous status of being suspended in emptiness.

So it's the big bang for me, and anyway the big bang theory is a brilliant series.