Thread: The letter sent by one of Britain's top business figures to President Barack Obama

Good Lord, there's a lot of nonsense coming from the UK these days.





Writing on his website, Lord Tebbit said Mr Obama’s attitude was explicable but ‘despicable’.

‘The whole might of American wealth and technology is displayed as utterly unable to deal with the disastrous spill - so what more natural than a crude, bigoted, xenophobic display of partisan political Presidential petulance against a multinational company?,' he said.

Read more: BP OIL SPILL: Lord Tebbit and Boris Johnson attack Obama's 'anti-British' rhetoric | Mail Online


Maybe Lourdy is worried that Shell might take ober BP and become a responsible Co.

Originally Posted by thehighlander959

^ Link Please: Where did BP say they caused this spill and where does it cite that they were grossly incompetent. Who issued the Drlling Permits to a grossly incompetent company? Have a look in your own backyard.

Come on dotcom, back-up these claims. You sound like some idiot who has never had anything to do with the oil and gas game, but has suddenly became an expert through Fox news.

Originally Posted by Khao Niao

This company's country of origin is not irrelevant. Many Americans have concluded that BP, and the supercilious toff who runs it, would be more careful and responsible if they were operating their rig near the coast of south-east England, i.e. near their London head office

And the Americans who were working on the rig? Let's remember, that EVERY worker on the drilling rig has the ability to have the work stopped if they believe that they are doing something that puts safety at risk.

Originally Posted by Khao Niao

Many Americans have concluded that BP, and the supercilious toff who runs it, would be more careful and responsible if they were operating their rig near the coast of south-east England, i.e. near their London head office

But they wouldn't need to be careful, as there's no oil or gas there.

BP is getting shafted by the US govt to take responsibility. It was an accident, BP is doing what it can to fix the well head. The US govt should have been in action weeks ago ensuring the cleanup would minimise the amount of oil reaching land. Sure, BP will have to pay for that, but let the co. get on with its key focus: stopping the bladdy gusher. Too much politics, not enough sense.

BP are liars fullstop. I also notice no mention of Amoco.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by Khao Niao

This company's country of origin is not irrelevant. Many Americans have concluded that BP, and the supercilious toff who runs it, would be more careful and responsible if they were operating their rig near the coast of south-east England, i.e. near their London head office

And the Americans who were working on the rig? Let's remember, that EVERY worker on the drilling rig has the ability to have the work stopped if they believe that they are doing something that puts safety at risk.

The last sentence is a little over the top as to the authority of the personal working offshore. The individul can stop working if he/she deems unsafe conditions exist, but there are normally only 2 people who have the authority to shut down the entire drilling operation or parts thereof. (the company man, BP and the drilling rig supervisor) The sharing of monetary responsibility between BP, Halliburton, Trans, Cameron, and others will come about in different ways. One will the the judgment (handed down or not) by courts who handle the suits filed by the familes who lost family members. Then the clean up cost, etc where BP admits liability and intent to do their utmost to rectify a bad situation. Then the US taxpayer contributing what ever amount the US government deems necessary toward whatever activity said government pursues. Precedents will probably is set, revised, and reset before this is resolved to hopefully a majority acceptance. Compensation for the latter is not unheard of, plus potential fines, for what ever reason and anything else, anyone involved/affected or not can come up with.

I think that every blowhard posting on this thread needs to take a time out and watch this;

Blowout: The Deepwater Horizon Disaster - 60 Minutes - CBS News

Blame lays on both sides. The US government and BP. Just more on the side of BP.

Originally Posted by pet coon

The last sentence is a little over the top as to the authority of the personal working offshore. The individul can stop working if he/she deems unsafe conditions exist, but there are normally only 2 people who have the authority to shut down the entire drilling operation or parts thereof. (the company man, BP and the drilling rig supervisor)

Incorrect. Anyone can "Stop the Job" if they feel there is a hazard that has not been properly addressed. This can be found in most contractor safety manuals.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by pet coon

The last sentence is a little over the top as to the authority of the personal working offshore. The individul can stop working if he/she deems unsafe conditions exist, but there are normally only 2 people who have the authority to shut down the entire drilling operation or parts thereof. (the company man, BP and the drilling rig supervisor)

Incorrect. Anyone can "Stop the Job" if they feel there is a hazard that has not been properly addressed. This can be found in most contractor safety manuals.

Bullshit lies. Post up your facts. Watch the video and STFU!!

Originally Posted by bsnub

Bullshit lies. Post up your facts. Watch the video and STFU!!

Says the minimum wage drunk. Like you would know anything about it.

Anyone can "Stop the Job" if they feel there is a hazard that has not been properly addressed. FACT.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by bsnub

Bullshit lies. Post up your facts. Watch the video and STFU!!

Says the minimum wage drunk. Like you would know anything about it.

Anyone can "Stop the Job" if they feel there is a hazard that has not been properly addressed. FACT.

Spoken like a soldier that claimed to be on the field of battle but never was. You are a lier and an ass. These oil rigs run like a military company or battalion. You have no voice up the chain of command.

This ass clown noodles has no clue WTF he is talking about.

Once again watch the vid. Then talk.

^A low-end manual worker, soaking-up his Fox news and then trying to tell me how offshore company operational procedures are worded. A little more than amusing. Thanks for the laugh, fuck knuckle.

Anyone can "Stop the Job" if they feel there is a hazard that has not been properly addressed. FACT.

I noted you added a little bit to your original sentence, "has not been properly addressed" Its all a moot point anyway as with all screw ups by different individuals leading up to this disaster, shows the Manuel for how it is used, as a guideline.

I would enjoy watching a galley hand (cook) shut down a offshore rig operation, on second thought no I would not. (too bloody)

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

BP is getting shafted by the US govt to take responsibility.

Absolutely inconceivable! How dare they! Everyone knows that it was an act of God.* Poor, innocent BP--just in the wrong place at the wrong time...

*Washington News Review: If oil spill is 'an act of God,' BP merits divine retribution

turned out of a bit of an arse however

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If you are talking about the POTUS, then I have to agree with you. The man is an ass and out of his depth at this level of politics.

His job during this ecological disaster was to try and ensure that the spill was minimized and protect the people in the GOM. Instead he set off on a crusade to crucify BP with his personal agenda and point scoring to try and show he was the Big Man in town.

All he has tried to do is ridicule BP as the foreign company who caused this. There are other companies involved here who moved out of America because the American government was hurting them financially namely Transocean (Delaware,Cayman Island and now Switzerland) and the world famous Haliburton (Houston and now Dubai UAE)

If you know anything about BP as a multi-national corporation. There will be something written and signed by the companies above concerning apportioning blame, service companies always say there is a get out clause, lets wait and see where their get out clause is when it comes to due legal process.

Originally Posted by Mr Brown

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Slightly bitter

I thought Barack though' started; continued with a good impression towards others and reaching back within the global community.

and BP changed what?

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Then please explain to me how he is going to get a second term after such a poor showing in the GOM. His personal agenda has overshadowed everything in the GOM disaster. Point scoring and very poor rhetoric and jingoism has prevented him from being objective. I am not sure the people in the GOM will vote for him to get a second term.

He maybe a very good Congressional politician, but from what I see he is a very poor POTUS with a very limited understanding of world politics and crisis management. Points out of 10 maybe a 2 thats all.

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I'm not disagreeing with you, and I hope he doesn't get a second term- I'm no Obama fan, and he wasn't my pick for POTUS- my post was directed towards those who would expect anything from him but do do what fits into his personal agenda- he doesn't give a damn about 'the world'- he cares about his position in the States and how's he's perceived (the effectiveness of his actions is subject to interpretation).

EDIT- he'll most likely get a second term- the voter-base that brought him the White House in '08 won't change much in '12.

"Then please explain to me how he is going to get a second term......
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the American elector, history is there to prove it.