Thread: Deaths as Israeli forces storm Gaza aid ship

Originally Posted by Panda

Just saw on the evening news Israel is claiming the soldiers boarding the aid ships came under attack by protesters armed with knives, iron bars and an axe. Also claims of attacks against the soldiers with a pistol. Israel is claiming self defence on the part of the soldiers and is also claiming the protesters are terrorist sympathizers. Sounds remarkably similar to Abhisit.

And you sound like a broken record...

Originally Posted by pickel

One more valid reason for the dismantling of the state of Israel.

Right. Why don't you just say you hate some people and that you will take any excuse to displace your frustrations in life.


The ships were all given the option of going to an Egyptian or Israeli port. The aid agencies would have delivered the aid. The Egyptians told the flotilla organizers to come to Egypt and warned them of the outcome if their counsel was ignored. The flotilla organizers went looking for martyrdom, and are responsible for sending these people to their deaths. The videos of the attack will prove interesting viewing. Egypt tried to prevent this event, and the foreigners ignored the Egyptians.

Originally Posted by pickel

One more valid reason for the dismantling of the state of Israel.

agreed.

Zygot1 Yeah right Israel would deliever the aid
PS the moon is made of cheese

Originally Posted by zygote1

Right. Why don't you just say you hate some people and that you will take any excuse to displace your frustrations in life.

WTF are you on about here? Is it an inference of the anti-semite card? Find another player for that game, I don't play it.

Originally Posted by zygote1

The ships were all given the option of going to an Egyptian or Israeli port. The aid agencies would have delivered the aid. The Egyptians told the flotilla organizers to come to Egypt and warned them of the outcome if their counsel was ignored. The flotilla organizers went looking for martyrdom, and are responsible for sending these people to their deaths. The videos of the attack will prove interesting viewing. Egypt tried to prevent this event, and the foreigners ignored the Egyptians.

It happened in International waters.

Israel is a failed experiment, should have never happened

it has been 50 years of mistakes, let's hope they self-destruct like they did 2500 years ago

israel is a rogue state that thumbs its nose at international law and needs to be put down.

the sooner the better.

Originally Posted by corned dog

Zygot1 Yeah right Israel would deliever the aid
PS the moon is made of cheese

Really, then perhaps you should visit the border crossings where the aid passes through. If you don't believe Israel would do it, then Egypt was available as well. The Egyptians said to land it and they would deliver it, just as they do every day of the week.

Some 700 pro-Palestinian activists were on the boats, including 1976 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan Maguire of Northern Ireland, European legislators and an elderly Holocaust survivor.
NBC News reported that 11 Americans were among the civilians aboard the ships. They include a former ambassador and a former State Department official.

10 killed in Israeli raid on aid flotilla - Israel-Palestinians- msnbc.com


didn't someone post a link on this thread where an israeli govt. spokesman called them al qaeda?

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by zygote1

Right. Why don't you just say you hate some people and that you will take any excuse to displace your frustrations in life.

WTF are you on about here? Is it an inference of the anti-semite card? Find another player for that game, I don't play it.

What? I made no mention of anti-semitism. There are over 3 million Israelis of various arab origins, of which more than 1 million are not jewish refugees from arab countries. These arabs vote and participate in Israel. Although a great many have legitimate grievances, I believe that you will find, they would not trade in their opportunities, quality of life, and access to a functioning democracy for one of the other regimes in the region. Please do not dismiss Israel's arab population. They are not all of one view or belief. I really do wish you would make an effort to get to know Israel's arabs. They are also semites.

Originally Posted by raycarey

israel is a rogue state that thumbs its nose at international law and needs to be put down.

the sooner the better.

Right. And you are a major mover and shaker in making the world a better place. Start with your own neighborhood and behaviour first.


So much displaced anger and hatred here. This brings to mind a passage from the Bible; "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Matthew 22:39
Now I know you folks aren't much one for the Gospel, what with Jesus having been an Israelite and a jew, but having such hatred and anger in your hearts will do you no good. It's a one way ticket to misery.

And if you aren't one for salvation, then please consider increasing your meds. Visit your physician today and discuss the subject.

Originally Posted by Norton

Believe it was in Irish waters but big difference is the ship was carrying arms

Irish waters ain't UK waters. So still an illegal act. Some justification in that it was filled with weapons.

Thou shall love thy neighbour Right yeah Is the bible not that popular in israel

Originally Posted by corned dog

Is the bible not that popular in israel

The old bits are, the new bits after that jeebus guy came around? Not so much.

Should say bully our neighbour into submission

Originally Posted by corned dog

Thou shall love thy neighbour Right yeah Is the bible not that popular in israel

Sure they are. They're sent over by their neighbours via rockets.

Originally Posted by planestanley

Who is the biggest banker of Un ?
USA ,whhere is it located ?
Who funds Israel?
Nothing wil happen

Has less to do with where it's located as who controls the security council votes. But you're right to say that all US Treaty Allies are safe - Israel kills Palestinians (or anyone else) or Thailand kills pro-democracy demonstrators
- the US will back them at the UN Security Council - it's just like China will back North Korea or Burma - same-same.

Originally Posted by zygote1

Originally Posted by raycarey

israel is a rogue state that thumbs its nose at international law and needs to be put down.

the sooner the better.

Right. And you are a major mover and shaker in making the world a better place. Start with your own neighborhood and behaviour first.

this isn't about me...or my neighborhood (?!?).

try to stay on topic, ok sport?

Originally Posted by zygote1

This brings to mind a passage from the Bible

hold that thought....

check, please!

Originally Posted by jandajoy

ships not to enter its territorial waters.

Originally Posted by mr Fred

I do hope this turns out to have happened in international waters

It was 65 miles/ km from israeli shore. The distance to shore where the boats could have been stopped was 20 miles/km. So as mentioned before it was in international waters.

This seems like the middle ages, they blockade a country/ people from all resources and allow enoghf stuff into the territories for the palestinians not to starve to death!!
I do think the people who got on those boat had big testicals lol, Knowing some shit was going to happen and israel would not just watch them unloading their cargo.
I think it was a stupid thing to do and netanyahu, while a very calculating politician is a guy who just does take high risks..............

Originally Posted by raycarey

Some 700 pro-Palestinian activists were on the boats, including 1976 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan Maguire of Northern Ireland, European legislators and an elderly Holocaust survivor.
NBC News reported that 11 Americans were among the civilians aboard the ships. They include a former ambassador and a former State Department official.

10 killed in Israeli raid on aid flotilla - Israel-Palestinians- msnbc.com


didn't someone post a link on this thread where an israeli govt. spokesman called them al qaeda?

BBC News - Reaction to Gaza aid ship deaths

Originally Posted by zygote1

Originally Posted by corned dog

Zygot1 Yeah right Israel would deliever the aid
PS the moon is made of cheese

Really, then perhaps you should visit the border crossings where the aid passes through. If you don't believe Israel would do it, then Egypt was available as well. The Egyptians said to land it and they would deliver it, just as they do every day of the week.

Amnesty International has dubbed it "collective punishment" resulting in a "humanitarian crisis"
UN officials have described the situation as "grim", "deteriorating" and a "medieval siege"

BBC News - Guide: Gaza under blockade

Originally Posted by mr Fred

Originally Posted by Dug

Fucking Jews, they're just protecting themselves but still....

Yep protecting themselves by killing unarmed civilians carrying food to people who are being illegally blockaded.
I do hope this turns out to have happened in international waters. The UN may actually be forced to get of their collective fat fucking arses and do something positive.

It will never happen, the USA is totally controlled by these people, and they are one of the countries who can veto anything the UN wants to discuss and end it there and then.

Originally Posted by BobR

the USA is totally controlled by these people,

seems a bit harsh.