Thread: Aussie Pensioners Shafted

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Why shouldn't they have a little more quality of life here ?

Simply because the Thai Government isn't paying for them, the Australian Government is.

They pays the money, they call the shots.

If these people really had problems they wouldn't be able to travel to Thailand in the first place so spare me the crocodile tears.

I struggle to see how you can possibly have a "better quality of life" in Thailand if you are physically disabled. I really do.

I am for being allowed to travel and live out our lives where we choose, but the govt see,s it differently, according to centrelink statistics 34.7% of registered disabled pensioners are long term unemployed under the age of 50 , some are addicts or alcoholics, but most of them just dont want to work and are rorting the system thats why centrelink are starting to get really heavyhanded,with their searches and punishments, until the mid 80s I was 100% disabled through bomb injuries but now through the wonders of modern surgery and lots an lots of titanium ,steel and plastic, plus a the odd implant, plate and valve or 3 I am now only 85% disabled and on a good day can walk and function sometimes without assistence, It just pisses me right off that other lazy bastards can cause me and mine so many problems in the evening of our lives, so rant over, not usually a whinger , but some things just do wind me up,its nearly as serious as someone peeing in my lao khao

Originally Posted by BobR

If they are legitimately disabled, I cannot understand the relevance of where they chose to live. I have a friend here who was a policeman in the USA but retired after being shot. Absolutely legitimate, he walks with a limp because the bullet damaged his knee so badly. Does the fact he choses to live here make his disability any less legitimate?

I agree totally, if a person has worked all his life paying taxes and then has the unfortunate position of being disabled at work what the fok has it got to do with any bastard where he choses to live ?

The money he is recieving is compensation for his contribution to the society when he was fit and healthy and now its pay back time for being foked up in the name of making an honest living.

Foking Australian government would cut the eye out of ones cock if given half a chance.

Originally Posted by Panda

I doubt that there will be much public resistance to this latest government move announced by Minister Jenny Macklin as it affect such a small number of people. And of course the general public perception that expats living in Asia are either sex-tourists and/or paedophiles. And of course anyone speaking out about this latest government injustice would be treated with great suspicion.
Interesting that the minister just happens to be a woman. I wonder if it was a Feminazi bean-counter who came up with the idea in the first place?

The real reason is that most of the stay at home crowd are foking jealous that some poor disabled bastard is enjoying him self whilst there stuck at home with there foking ugly fat foking slapper wife whom will destroy him financially if he fokes her off.

Originally Posted by Beadle

I struggle to see how you can possibly have a "better quality of life" in Thailand if you are physically disabled. I really do.

Best to ask that question to a disabled dude who is having the baby batter extracted from his cock by some brown skinned drop dead georgous horn bag.

Originally Posted by Beadle

I struggle to see how you can possibly have a "better quality of life" in Thailand if you are physically disabled. I really do.

Sigh!

Originally Posted by terry57

if a person has worked all his life paying taxes

this is right where it should end..the bastards are quick to tax the gas off our farts and yet when its time to enjoy the benefits of all the hard yards you have to deal with bullshit red tape and yet deadshit lazy bastard dole bludgers can sit on their arses under a tree all day with 'no worries' mate.....

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

I am in receipt of an enhanced pension from the UK government as a result of suffering an injury in the UK which prevented me from continuing in my occupation. Following medical retirement i am able to travel or live anywhere i choose without penalty.

Please tell me how you managed this. I retired early due to work related problems and all my benefits were stopped, bar one, when I left the UK. The only benefit I get is Industrial Injuries Benefit which they said cannot be taken away, irrespective where I live. That works out at about 110 Quid a month.

There is a difference between work related problems and work related injuries!!a driver injured in a crash is handled and paid differently as a driver who can no longer do his job because of stress related illness, there are so many loopholes that are being used to rort the govts ,

Originally Posted by superman

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

I am in receipt of an enhanced pension from the UK government as a result of suffering an injury in the UK which prevented me from continuing in my occupation. Following medical retirement i am able to travel or live anywhere i choose without penalty.

Please tell me how you managed this. I retired early due to work related problems and all my benefits were stopped, bar one, when I left the UK. The only benefit I get is Industrial Injuries Benefit which they said cannot be taken away, irrespective where I live. That works out at about 110 Quid a month.

Superman, i have sent you a PM

^ Received it thanks. I replied but you don't have to reply to it.

Originally Posted by Ningi

There is a difference between work related problems and work related injuries!!a driver injured in a crash is handled and paid differently as a driver who can no longer do his job because of stress related illness, there are so many loopholes that are being used to rort the govts ,

The "psyche" injuries usually are bogus. Going back to policeman example, there is a big difference between someone who retires on a pension after being shot as opposed to someone who claims stress. Perhaps the latter should be restricted as to where they can live, but not someone whose disability is tangible, obvious and legitimate. The real answer (of course) is to weed out the bogus claims no matter where they live.

If people are rorting the system by pretending to be disabled when they are not, then that needs to come under better scrutiny. I doubt anyone would disagree with that. However, that needs to be a medical decision, NOT a political decision.
But that is not what the Minister is bitching about. Her sole complaint is that some people on disabled pension are spending extended periods overseas. She has not come out and said that people who spend extended periods living overseas are faking their disability, however she has inferred that by calling them offenders. She claims that disabled pensioners traveling overseas for extended periods are costing the Australian taxpayers $3 million a year, but gives no explanation how this could be.

In fact I would suggest that pensioners travelling overseas for extended periods could actually save the federal government money through savings in subsidized medical treatment, pharmaceuticals, and housing required while in Australia.

The ministers actions are simply a bureaucratic money grab designed to strip entitlements from disadvantaged members of the community.
Shame on Jenny Macklin and her troop of bean counters.

Originally Posted by nedwalk

Originally Posted by terry57

if a person has worked all his life paying taxes

this is right where it should end..the bastards are quick to tax the gas off our farts and yet when its time to enjoy the benefits of all the hard yards you have to deal with bullshit red tape and yet deadshit lazy bastard dole bludgers can sit on their arses under a tree all day with 'no worries' mate.....

And further more let the truth be known that if your an Aboriginal sitting under that tree getting pissed of your face on tax payers money that's perfectly okay but don't foking go overseas if your a disabled pensioner.

Aussie government have absolutely got there priorities well and truly foked up and it don't matter who one votes for there all down the shitter.

This is the thin edge of the government cost cutting wedge for sure.
Disabled Pensioners first and Aged Pensioners next.

Originally Posted by Panda

Disabled Pensioners first and Aged Pensioners next.

You can book that in. Odds-on cert.