Low IQ = higher heart risk

**Mid** · 10-02-2010, 01:34 PM

Low IQ = higher heart risk
Feb 10, 2010

Intelligence comes second only to smoking as a predictor of heart disease, suggesting public health campaigns may need to be designed for people with lower IQs if they are to work.
PHOTO: ALAN LIM

LONDON - INTELLIGENCE comes second only to smoking as a predictor of heart disease, scientists said on Wednesday, suggesting public health campaigns may need to be designed for people with lower IQs if they are to work.

Research by Britain's Medical Research Council (MRC) found that lower intelligence quotient (IQ) scores were associated with higher rates of heart disease and death, and were more important indicators than any other risk factors except smoking.

Heart disease is the leading killer of men and women Europe, the United States and most industrialised countries. According to the World Health Organisation, cardiovascular diseases and diabetes accounted for 32 per cent of all deaths around the world in 2005.

It is well known that people with poorer education and lower incomes often face higher risks of ill health and a range of diseases. Studies have pointed to many likely reasons, including limited access to healthcare and other resources, poorer living conditions, chronic stress and higher rates of lifestyle risk factors like smoking.

The MRC study, which analysed data from 1,145 men and women aged around 55 and followed up for 20 years, rated the top five heart disease risk factors as cigarette smoking, IQ, low income, high blood pressure, and low physical activity.

The researchers, led by David Batty of the MRC and Social and Public Health Science Unit in Glasgow, Scotland, said there were 'a number of plausible mechanisms' which might explain why lower IQ scores could raise the risk of heart disease - in particular a person's approach to 'healthy behaviour.'

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**Belepheron** · 10-02-2010, 01:42 PM

Darwinian selection at work?

DaffyDuck · 10-02-2010, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Belepheron

Darwinian selection at work?

My thoughhts exactly.

So, dumb people have a higher likelyhood of dying early - sounds fine to me.

Now, if only that also were to prevent them from breeding and we'd be in a better world.

**DrB0b** · 10-02-2010, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Belepheron

Darwinian selection at work?

My thoughhts exactly.

So, dumb people have a higher likelyhood of dying early - sounds fine to me.

Now, if only that also were to prevent them from breeding and we'd be in a better world.

Would your definition of dumb people include those who support Abhisit because they believe he doesn't wear a collection of amulets?

**Patangko** · 11-02-2010, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Belepheron

Darwinian selection at work?

My thoughhts exactly.

So, dumb people have a higher likelyhood of dying early - sounds fine to me.

Now, if only that also were to prevent them from breeding and we'd be in a better world.

LOL they are easy to identify they like wearing red

**Begbie** · 10-02-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mid

The researchers, led by David Batty of the MRC and Social and Public Health Science Unit in Glasgow, Scotland, said there were 'a number of plausible mechanisms' which might explain why lower IQ scores could raise the risk of heart disease - in particular a person's approach to 'healthy behaviour.'

straitstimes.com

Lower income, higher likelihood of eating at McDonalds.

**DrB0b** · 10-02-2010, 01:47 PM

It must be all the stress caused by believing that Obama's a Muslim Communist and that Isaan Peasants are taking 200 Baht a day to help overthrow a benevolent and democratic government

**blackgang** · 10-02-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Belepheron

Darwinian selection at work?

Exactly correct,,

Originally Posted by Begbie

Lower income, higher likelihood of eating at McDonalds.

Has nothing to do with income,, in case you have trouble with comprehension, then you had better go see a Dr. now because you appear at risk.

**AntRobertson** · 10-02-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Begbie

Lower income, higher likelihood of eating at McDonalds.

Has nothing to do with income,, in case you have trouble with comprehension, then you had better go see a Dr. now because you appear at risk.

Oh dear...

...It is well known that people with poorer education and lower incomes often face higher risks of ill health and a range of diseases. Studies have pointed to many likely reasons, including limited access to healthcare and other resources, poorer living conditions, chronic stress and higher rates of lifestyle risk factors like smoking.

Did you feel a tightening in your chest when posting that, blackgang?

**Begbie** · 10-02-2010, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Belepheron

Darwinian selection at work?

Exactly correct,,

Originally Posted by Begbie

Lower income, higher likelihood of eating at McDonalds.

Has nothing to do with income,, in case you have trouble with comprehension, then you had better go see a Dr. now because you appear at risk.

Oh I comprehend the OP Blackgang but unlike you I don't base my opinions on a couple of paragraphs posted on a internet forum.

**Belepheron** · 10-02-2010, 03:29 PM

Any roads, a high IQ is no indicator of intelligence, merely that you are good at IQ tests.

**blackgang** · 10-02-2010, 05:25 PM

.It is well known that people with poorer education and lower incomes often face higher risks of ill health and a range of diseases. Studies have pointed to many likely reasons, including limited access to healthcare and other resources, poorer living conditions, chronic stress and higher rates of lifestyle risk factors like smoking.

Did you feel a tightening in your chest when posting that, blackgang?

IQ is the OP, not education or income, they are a completely different thing, Education is not even in the same catagory,, you should understand that Antsy, you must have an education, but it does not show that you have an IQ of over double digits at best.
So why should I have anything going on with my heart because I do know what my IQ is, and I am the first to admit that my formal edi. ended fairly early in life.

Originally Posted by Begbie

Oh I comprehend the OP Blackgang but unlike you I don't base my opinions on a couple of paragraphs posted on a internet forum.

On what do you base your opinions then??

**AntRobertson** · 10-02-2010, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

IQ is the OP, not education or income, they are a completely different thing, Education is not even in the same catagory,, you should understand that Antsy, you must have an education, but it does not show that you have an IQ of over double digits at best.

I think you'll find a pretty strong correlation between IQ and education and income blackgang. There is after all a pretty good reason why not just any old idiot can declare themselves something like a doctor and start raking in money.

Lower intelligence = poorer education = lower income = poorer living conditions/options = poorer health. It ain't rocket science, blackgang.

...I am the first to admit that my formal edi. ended fairly early in life.

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**blackgang** · 10-02-2010, 07:00 PM

I really can not understand why you as a supposedly educted person?
continually must prove that you are of a lower IQ than most on these boards.

IQ has nothing to do with education, plain and simple.

Getting a PHD or Dr. means you can pass a test, does not mean that you are good for anything, or at anything but passing a test..

**AntRobertson** · 10-02-2010, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

I really can not understand why you as a supposedly educted person?
continually must prove that you are of a lower IQ than most on these boards.

Really, so what is my IQ? Where's this proof of yours?

Being called stupid by you is like being accused of being anti semitic by Hitler. Particularly when you abuse the English language in the process of doing it.

IQ has nothing to do with education, plain and simple.

Yes it does. It's only simple to think otherwise.

Getting a PHD or Dr. means you can pass a test, does not mean that you are good for anything, or at anything but passing a test..

How would you know; by your own admission you lack much formal education yourself.

A PhD is most certainly not simply a matter of 'passing a test', again underscoring that you've no idea what you're talking about.

**Ghandi** · 10-02-2010, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by blackgang

I really can not understand why you as a supposedly educted person?
continually must prove that you are of a lower IQ than most on these boards.

Really, so what is my IQ? Where's this proof of yours?

IQ's test are far from standardized. So what is your IQ score ?

IQ has nothing to do with education, plain and simple.

Yes it does. It's only simple to think otherwise.

Getting a PHD or Dr. means you can pass a test, does not mean that you are good for anything, or at anything but passing a test..

How would you know; by your own admission you lack much formal education yourself.

This is not correct as there are people with very high recorded IQ's who did not have access to formal education.

Taksin has a PHD. , wonder what his thesis was on.

It means very little to entrepreneurs and self made business people , i.e. Bill Gates.

A PhD is most certainly not simply a matter of 'passing a test', again underscoring that you've no idea what you're talking about.

It means you had enough time to sit in a classroom full of Adult students or professional students.

**AntRobertson** · 10-02-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ghandi

IQ's test are far from standardized. So what is your IQ score ?

I've no idea what my IQ is. I'm waiting with bated breath for blackgang to tell me.

This is not correct as there are people with very high recorded IQ's who did not have access to formal education.

Such as... ?

It means you had enough time to sit in a classroom full of Adult students or professional students.

Ahh, another person with a chip on their shoulder over formal education I see.

**dirtydog** · 10-02-2010, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Belepheron

Any roads, a high IQ is no indicator of intelligence, merely that you are good at IQ tests.

Thats like that excuse blokes who suffer from premature ejaculation use, something along the lines, <*Aussie accent>"Hey Sheila, it's not a problem only lasting 15 seconds, as long as I enjoy it."</*Aussie accent>

**Ghandi** · 10-02-2010, 07:43 PM

Actually the original topic has been well known for years.

Dumb people smoke cigarettes , eat fried foods and drink excessively and never do any exercise.

Most Thai's are very good example if anyone was interested in doing a case study.

**Patangko** · 11-02-2010, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Ghandi

Actually the original topic has been well known for years.

Dumb people smoke cigarettes , eat fried foods and drink excessively and never do any exercise.

Most Thai's are very good example if anyone was interested in doing a case study.

"Dumb people smoke cigarettes , eat fried foods and drink excessively and never do any exercise."

Thats half TD then hahaha

**blackgang** · 10-02-2010, 08:14 PM

Just have to prove it don't ya antsy,, not a very high score thats for damn sure.

**AntRobertson** · 11-02-2010, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Just have to prove it don't ya antsy,, not a very high score thats for damn sure.

Well you tell me blackgang, you claim to know.

And again, being called dumb by you is like being accused of being 'not quite right in the head' by David Koresh.

**blackgang** · 11-02-2010, 05:44 AM

David Roresh had quite a following,, loyal too,,

You prove mant times daily that you are not of the sharpest knife on here..

Don't have to give you a score,, stupid is as stupid does.

**AntRobertson** · 11-02-2010, 08:55 AM

Well there's a surprise... blackgang dribbling on about something he knows nothing about.

**Jesus Jones** · 11-02-2010, 09:54 AM

I don't think this is based on the IQ of people, but more likely a result of living a poorer lifestyle as a result of having fewer chances. Society as a whole maybe the the cause, but certainly not peoples IQ level.

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