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Have just seen this, I went to school with this guy. He was the year ahead of me and we weren't exactly friends but I remember him being a decent and nice guy.

Weirdly, having not heard anything about of from him for years, I also stumbled across his Facebook page just the other week. Now this.

What a fecking waste, a lesson to those that use their fists first and brains later perhaps:

A leader cut down in his prime

A young Hawea Vercoe liked animals and wide open spaces.
But a dislike of blisters and getting his hands dirty always meant the boy was unlikely to grow up to be a farmer.

The 36-year-old school principal, who died of a brain injury after he was felled by a single punch outside a Whakatane bar on Sunday, was farewelled yesterday at a tangi at Tuteao Marae in Te Teko.

Hundreds of people broke into haka while others sobbed as his body was taken to his nearby Puketapu Cemetery to be buried next to his older brother, Tamaoho, who died in 1994.

Mr Vercoe's close friend, Dr Lance O'Sullivan, told the gathering of about 2500 people how teaching was not his first choice of vocation - although he would later become a school principal while still very young.

"He actually considered being a farmer instead ... but Hawea's aversion to getting soiled and blistered hands meant it was far better that he ended up shifting children than livestock."

Dr O'Sullivan said he was still trying "to make sense of a senseless situation" in which 21-year-old Isaiah Tai of Opotiki has been charged with his murder.

"Here we have a young leader cut down in his prime, a young man who did enough for two lifetimes," said Dr O'Sullivan.

Also at the gathering were Lady Kuia Morrison, Maori Party MP Te Ururoa Flavell, who beat Mr Vercoe for the Waiariki seat at the 2005 general election, and Destiny Church leader Brian Tamaki. Mr Tamaki, who was accompanied by a large group of supporters, said Mr Vercoe became involved in Destiny Church in 1998 but eventually left in 2007.

"He was a very talented young man, he was always very vibrant and had great aspirations."

He said his death was a "tragic wake-up call" for Maoridom.

"There are better ways of dealing with violence, particularly with our Maori men.
"We are doing a good job so I hope someone realises this and helps put the resources in place."

Ngati Awa leader Pouroto Ngaropo said Mr Vercoe had left a legacy for the next generations to aspire to.

"He held fast to our language and the unique identity we have as Maori. It is a legacy we should celebrate."

Mr Ngaropo said a group from the Eastern Bay of Plenty iwi Te Whakatohea, where Mr Vercoe's alleged killer hails from, had attended the tangi to pay their respects.

He said their presence had helped to clear any perceived ill-feelings between the two groups.

"This is not a reflection on Te Whakatohea," said Mr Ngaropo. "Mr Tai is an individual who must now take responsibility for his actions."
Tai is to reappear in Whakatane District Court on December 9.

Sorry to hear of this bad news Ant.

May he rest in peace.

Sorry to hear that mate, sounded like he was one of the "good ones" RIP

Cheers guys. As I say we weren't what I could call close, just a bit of a shock to be skimming the news and see something like this.

I used to work with a Kiwi guy called Bob Vercoe. Any relation?

^If he was from the Bay of Plenty then chances are he would've been. Quite a well known family in that region.

Is that on the south island? Cos that was where he was from.

Nope, central North Island. Probably no relation then.

Sad story.

How very unfortunate for him and his family. Why is it the good die young...

It is a shock, and 36 is way too young.

Yeah, many missing this point.

The 36-year-old school principal, who died of a brain injury after he was felled by a single punch outside a Whakatane bar on Sunday,

Who threw the single punch?
I'm sure 'maoridom' will miss him, but I'm guessing it was 'maoridom' that dispatched him.
New Zealand is a very violent place.

Originally Posted by Dug

New Zealand is a very violent place.

Is it? Seriously?

I think Dug's overstating the case.

And it's hardly as though what violence there is is the exclusive preserve of Maori either.

If there was a group I would never mess with in Sydney were the Maoris and Islanders and I'm talking about the woman.

Big, nasty fokkers they are!

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Big, nasty fokkers they are!

You forgot the ugly bit

Originally Posted by Thai Pom

You forgot the ugly bit

I would never insult a lady mate!

In fact I had an islander girlfriend for a while and she looked like one of those girls in those Tahitian travel agency advertisements.

Bloody beautiful but with a nasty streak and ended up spending time in jail for stabbing her father.

hmm once were warriers..

but back on topic.. what a sad loss to their community, at the very young age of 36 to be a principle..i.e a leader and someone to look up to, and to have some grub snuff a great future,

thanks for the awareness ANT, i just hope the community grows from this blokes input

Originally Posted by Dug

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I think Dug's overstating the case.

And it's hardly as though what violence there is is the exclusive preserve of Maori either.

World Top Ten Countries With Highest Reported Crime Rates

Maori crime rate concerns Government - Ministry of Justice - NZ Herald News

Police tackling Maori crime rates | NATIONAL | NEWS | tvnz.co.nz

China plans Maori village - Topix (idots are everywhere)

New Zealand Forum - Topix

Do the Kiwi's hate the Maoris - Topix

Seven Mongrel Mob members in court - Topix

'Warrior gene' blamed for Maori violence

Cherry-picking stats and posting links to forums hardly aids your case either, Dug. I mean to say; "Do the Kiwi's hate the Maoris"!?!

Originally Posted by nedwalk

thanks for the awareness ANT, i just hope the community grows from this blokes input

Cheers mate, me too!

A proper tragedy Ant.

The guy had so much to offer as well.

Condolences to his family, RIP

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Dug

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I think Dug's overstating the case.

And it's hardly as though what violence there is is the exclusive preserve of Maori either.

World Top Ten Countries With Highest Reported Crime Rates

Maori crime rate concerns Government - Ministry of Justice - NZ Herald News

Police tackling Maori crime rates | NATIONAL | NEWS | tvnz.co.nz

China plans Maori village - Topix (idots are everywhere)

New Zealand Forum - Topix

Do the Kiwi's hate the Maoris - Topix

Seven Mongrel Mob members in court - Topix

'Warrior gene' blamed for Maori violence

Cherry-picking stats and posting links to forums hardly aids your case either, Dug. I mean to say; "Do the Kiwi's hate the Maoris"!?!

Originally Posted by nedwalk

thanks for the awareness ANT, i just hope the community grows from this blokes input

Cheers mate, me too!

I don't have a 'case' so much as would find it interesting what people would think if they knew the real situation.
so.

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Let people choose their own.

Originally Posted by Dug

I don't have a 'case' so much as would find it interesting what people would think if they knew the real situation.

You don't really have a point either.

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I did find New Zealand to be about as violent as other Western countries, no more, no less. Maybe I was just lucky but the locals in New Zealand were more friendly than in any other Western country I've been in.

None of the Kiwis I met expressed any hatred towards the Maoris, the racism I noticed was directed towards Asian groups.

Both fair points in my opinion and tallies with my experience too.