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    Quote Originally Posted by mao say dung
    He also said we should remember that the Thais were defeated enemies in 1945.
    The Thais declared war on Britain and the US, they were on the Axis side.

    Not to difficult to understand even for you.

    Fucking wikipedia experts are tiresome.

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    ^I'd point you in the direction of pps 279-80 of Terweil's book on Thai political history, but I'm sure in all your years here you've managed to transcend the need to read to get your info on Thai history. And I agree with your assessment of Wikipedia experts, another reason I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be interested in the Terweil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mao say dung
    but I'm sure in all your years here you've managed to transcend the need to read to get your info on Thai history.
    No, that hasn't happened yet.

    Funnily enough, I get most of my factual information on Thailand from literary sources, and try not to generalise just using my experience or opinion as you earlier allege.

    However I am entitled to said opinion and I will continue to express it.

    By misrepresenting the date of Pearl Harbor (accidentally I may add, I really should have checked), I gave you a golden opportunity to have at me, and to which you did indeed seize the moment, however it all went a bit petty and personal didn't it?

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    I almost forgot my manners there for a moment, and neglected to welcome Ant Robertson back to the forum in his new guise, mao say dung.

    Welcome back, old friend and adversary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959
    France and Italy the only armies in the world where their tanks have a reverse gear and there is no need for tank identification marks as the yellow flag flying from the tank ariel mast covers all bases.


    Yes mate. Their tanks actually have 6 gears, frogs and iti's; 5 in reverse in times of danger, but one in forward thrust incase the enemy comes from behind!

    Frenchies liberated by us twice in a century because of their own ineptitude and incompetence but the attitude lives on, dunnit.

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    ^ Agree. WWI and WWII should have remained European issues. But in WWII I do think that a possible Soviet victory and march west may have been a motivator for the US. I don't know. Was the possible emergence of the USSR after WWII known or predicted or thought about by the US leaders and military people.

    I would assume it was.

    The Soviets got to Berlin first because the British and Americans ran out of gasoline and had to wait for it to be re-supplied.

    Hats off to the D-Day forces. Very, very few, returned alive.

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    Thanks for adding real footage, Guys. Today, I was rereading Gram's letters from the War Department about my cousin's death (Ranger 3rd Battalion, WWII -- he died well before D-Day, but..), etc (hey, the post only took four days to arrive from Washington, DC, to Buttfek Nowhere, Alberta, in the 1940s!), and parts of Darby's Rangers We Led the Way book. I shouldn't do that coz I always cry and then I get fat face.

    Doesn't matter what country any of these kids were from, they were fighting for what they believed was right (even the Germans and the Jpn -- brain-washed or not). Just makes me sick that so many that died were just young lads.

    Thanks to PompeyB and highlander959 for the tank details. That made me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Guess the Euros want to forget what the Americans, Canadians and Brits did on this day to liberate the Continent from the Nazis.
    You forgot about the Aussies and the Kiwis Jettie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    The Soviets got to Berlin first because the British and Americans ran out of gasoline and had to wait for it to be re-supplied.
    There was a race to Berlin by two Soviet army groups.

    Eisenhower, in one of his several blunders towards the end of the war, allowed the Soviets to take Berlin, while diverting Allied power to the South.

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    according to sarkozy d-day was franco/american affair.the truth is the majority of soldiers were british,canadian,australian and other commonwealth troops and the french were hiding under their mothers beds.how quickly they forget







    why did they plant trees on the champs elysiee?

    so the germans could march in the shade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Guess the Euros want to forget what the Americans, Canadians and Brits did on this day to liberate the Continent from the Nazis.
    You forgot about the Aussies and the Kiwis Jettie!
    I didna know they were at the beaches in Normandy...If so, my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    I almost forgot my manners there for a moment, and neglected to welcome Ant Robertson back to the forum in his new guise, mao say dung.

    Welcome back, old friend and adversary.
    You'll have to duke it out with Chairman Mao over who gets to claim MSD as some old adversary (and I suspect bum-buddy). He thinks I'm Smeg and regularly reds me for it. The only other nic I've ever had is the one I used at Ajarn Forum until I was banned permanently from there: emjay.

    Sarcasm, by the way, is a subset of irony, no matter how long one lives in Thailand.

    And your opinion about the Thais having been a defeated enemy is a defensible one; it is not, however, some kind of incontrovertible historical fact.

    I'm glad that living here for upwards of a decade hasn't caused you to forgo "literary" sources for your "historical" information, a laudable, if novel, approach.

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