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    Venezuela's giant rodent cuisine

    Venezuela's giant rodent cuisine



    By Will Grant
    BBC News, Caracas


    The official hunting season is in the weeks before Easter

    While in many countries the Easter dish may be lamb, in Venezuela a traditional delicacy around this time of the year is the capybara, the world's biggest rodent.

    The capybara is a distant cousin to the common guinea pig but bigger and river-based like a beaver.

    Many Venezuelans regard the semi-aquatic creature as more fish than meat - a useful description during Lent when it is eaten as a replacement for red meat in this largely Roman Catholic country.

    High demand in the run-up to Easter, combined with widespread poaching and illegal hunting, means the "chiguire", as it is called in Venezuela, is now under threat in some parts of the country.

    "It's not on the endangered species list yet," says Deborah Bigio of Fudena, an environmental NGO.

    "But there are a number of factors putting pressure on its numbers," she says, first and foremost illegal hunting in the run-up to Easter.

    "The main issue, here in Venezuela at least, is that this meat is being harvested especially in the days leading up to Holy Week... People don't eat beef during these days and so that's the main market which is pushing the demand for chiguire."

    Some of the people involved in supplying that demand are Ricardo and his wife. They run a fishmongers in the Pinto Salinas market in Calabozo, a hot, sleepy town in the rural state of Guarico, some 300km (186 miles) from Caracas.

    Ricardo has a steady supply of chiguire meat to sell to his eager customers. Like most chiguire vendors in Venezuela, Ricardo sells meat supplied by poachers. But he is well aware of the risks involved.

    "We sell chiguires here in Guarico but it's contraband," he tells me, while producing examples of the dry, grey meat from a bag hidden under the counter.

    "It's a species at risk so you can't sell it too publicly. The national guard could put me in jail."

    Indigenous roots

    Working in the illegal trade worries Ricardo's wife, but she says they have little choice.

    "I do feel uncomfortable selling chiguire meat," she says "but I have to do it as I don't have any other work or source of income. We try to buy just a little so we can make a profit. But we've no choice - it's our livelihood."

    CAPYBARA FACTS

    Scientific name: Hydrochaeris hydrochaeris
    Can grow to 130cm long (more than four feet)
    Can weigh up to 45 kg (100lb)
    Eats grasses and aquatic plants
    Able to remain under water for up to five minutes

    Her customers, however, were less reticent about their taste for the salted rodent.

    "Of course I eat chiguire!" one man in his 70s said, "Who doesn't?"

    "Have you never had a chiguire arepa (a typical regional dish)?" one woman asked me. "It's delicious, and part of our heritage, our indigenous roots."

    Out in the llanos - the rolling plains of Venezuela which surround Calabozo - illegal hunting of capybara is widespread.

    According to Deborah Bigio, it shows little sign of slowing down in the wake of tighter government laws on hunting. In Venezuela you need a special permit to hunt either for sport or for commercial purposes during the season which essentially falls in the month before Easter.

    But she says a lot of people cannot be bothered to take the time to apply for the permit and prefer to take their chances that the authorities have more important things to worry about than prosecuting small-scale capybara poachers.

    "There is a clearly defined hunting season for chiguires here. But the problem is that in order to enforce the controls you need a lot of people, a lot of staff and a lot of education to explain to people why they cannot go around any time of the year just killing chiguires at will."

    Amazonian twist

    There is also a new area which is creating further demand for chiguire meat: haute cuisine.


    Why do we need to import expensive beef and lamb when capybaras make a perfect replacement?
    Chef Nelson Mendez

    In the centre of Caracas, the Biarritz Bistro is a trendy, sophisticated restaurant that would not look out of place in London or New York. But the menu has an Amazonian twist. Today's special is chiguire in a roquefort sauce.

    The head chef at Biarritz is Nelson Mendez, a Venezuelan who is proud of his indigenous roots.

    In his kitchen, Nelson tells me that there is a world of difference between the dried and salted illegal meat I saw on sale in Calabozo and the succulent, pink chiguire steaks and cutlets he was preparing for the lunchtime rush.

    "You can see here the environment ministry's green tag on the meat," he says, holding up a hind leg of the animal with the government's sustainable-harvest mark on the back.

    "That means that this is an adult chiguire of a certain size, which falls within the 20% earmarked for harvest every year. That's how chiguire should be bred and produced in this country."

    Emblematic species

    Nelson is sure that chiguires could be a viable and indigenous source of protein. He sees a comparison with the farm-reared production of other exotic meats elsewhere in the world, such as ostrich, emu or kangaroo.

    "Why do we need to import expensive beef and lamb, when capybaras make a perfect replacement? We just need to follow the rules on sustainable farming and hunting more closely," he says.

    "So far, the authorities place all the emphasis on punishing people for illegal hunting, whereas really they should concentrate on educating people on how they could do things better."

    Deborah Bigio shares this view.
    "Our main issue here in Venezuela is to promote more sustainable harvesting programmes around the country or even begin to raise chiguires, as they do in other countries, for example, Argentina," she says.

    "It's a rodent, so it has a high reproduction rate. It's not on the brink of extinction by any means, but illegal hunting means we don't know what its numbers are anymore.

    "This is a very important species for us, it's an emblematic species - especially in Los Llanos region. It's important to the ecosystem too. As a country, we need to make sure we know how to protect our national wildlife."


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    Thai eat paddy rats and cows placenta, worms, grubs and larve, Big spiders, beetles, and ant eggs so I know they would eat those big rats too.

    I prefer Beef from Beef Grade cattle.

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    Here's a video of an animal eating a rodent.

    Jaguar attack on Capybara




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    Hell I might give it a shot, might be able to eat it as they are herbivores, and not like a rat that will eat anything, fucking near as bad as a human in their diet.
    I tried to eat Armadillo at a friends house when I worked south of Houston in Texas, but the more I chewed it the bigger it got and I just could not swallow it, but have eaten porcupine and beaver as the people in my part of the country ate some when I was young so it is OK with me, as they eat only bark and leaves and grasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    but have eaten porcupine and beaver
    Yes, I have eaten a few of those as well BG, pussy with 5 oclock shadow!

    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    as they eat only bark and leaves and grasses.
    Our Aussie wildlife eats, roots and leaves pretty much the same as the aussie male human variety~

    I don't know if you try to be BG or it just comes naturally but sometimes your as funny as fvck!

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    I was once standing on the shores of the Ganges river in India and was watching woman wading around in the water.

    I asked my Indian customer what they were doing and he explained they were removing rats off the floating bodies of dead people who were not properly cremated because of a lack of money to buy enough wood.

    He then informed me these rats were their food source and I almost spewed up on the spot.

    Made me realize once again how lucky I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Thai eat paddy rats and cows placenta, worms, grubs and larve, Big spiders, beetles, and ant eggs so I know they would eat those big rats too.

    I prefer Beef from Beef Grade cattle.
    Me too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Yes, I have eaten a few of those as well BG, pussy with 5 oclock shadow!
    No, Not that kind of beaver, I am talking about the ones you catch in a leg hold trap and have a weight on it that drownds the beaver, then you take him home skin him and cure the hide and sell it for $40 to Sol Rubin Fur Co and eat the hind legs and back strap of the animal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    I don't know if you try to be BG or it just comes naturally but sometimes your as funny as fvck!
    well sometimes I do try a little and sometimes it just happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Made me realize once again how lucky I am!
    I am forced to admit that myself all to often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Our Aussie wildlife eats, roots and leaves pretty much the same as the aussie male human variety~
    This is not to shabby in the dry wit dept. either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Thai eat paddy rats and cows placenta, worms, grubs and larve, Big spiders, beetles, and ant eggs so I know they would eat those big rats too.

    I prefer Beef from Beef Grade cattle.
    Me too.

    But that looks like grasshopper ham to me, I prefer beef.

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    how is it different to eating Rabbit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    how is it different to eating Rabbit ?
    How does that differ from CAT, except the cats diet keeps me from eating them.

    But the beaver and capibara diets are quite similar from what I have heard, I have never been around capibara.
    But people do eat dogs, cats, and cougar is supposed to be a high price in some New York resturants, the ones I have killed for bounty and livestock protection were skinned and left to rot as I eat no carnivores or omnivores. and even the pork I eat has to be certified.

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    I can't eat stuff like that. I wasn't decentized to eating it as a child.

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    ^Me too, Milky. I can't believe they eat these rodents. I'll stick with ice-cream according to the poll.

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