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    AIDS is the first disease that ever became a civil rights issue. Anyone who is HIV positive and has sex with someone else without telling them belongs in prison. It's an evil thing to do.

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    Know a UK bloke who got it in Pattaya 12 years ago-continued shagging his GF without telling her. Saw him in Tesco On Nut the other month alone, looked like a corpse, should have sent that twat back to the UK.

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    The guy in this story is a real loser, what does he expect when he's having sex with a prositute? These women will fuck anything, a group of African immigrants straight off the boat from the aids infested country of Swaziland could "hit that" if they had the money. The Canadians decision to deport this women is despicable, the guy knew what he was getting into by having a relationship with a woman who has sex for a living.

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    Ontario man sues strip club, government after contracting HIV
    Linda Nguyen
    January 31, 2012

    TORONTO - A Toronto man who found out nearly eight years ago that his Thai stripper wife had infected him with HIV has no one to blame but himself, the Ontario Superior Court heard Tuesday.

    It is not reasonable for Canadian citizens to expect the government to be an ``insurance" if they contract a disease after engaging in ``risky'' unprotected sex with an immigrant, argued Crown lawyer Marina Stefanovic in the Toronto court.

    ``The federal government and Immigration Canada has no room in people's bedrooms,'' she told Ontario Justice Carole Brown.

    Percy Wilbert Whiteman is suing his ex-wife, Suwalee Iamkhong, the government, an immigration doctor and a popular Toronto strip club for $30 million, claiming negligence on the part of those parties led to his infection.

    Whiteman, 36, claims the defendants did not take the necessary steps to find out that Iamkhong was HIV positive.

    He also alleges that immigration officials put him at risk by not testing the 42-year-old Iamkhong for the human immunodeficiency virus when she immigrated to Canada in May 1995 on a special four-month work visa.

    Stefanovic told the court that Iamkhong, who once worked as a prostitute, had ``intentionally and criminally concealed her condition'' from Citizenship and Immigration Canada. But even if she didn't, her having the disease did not preclude her eligibility to immigrate to Canada.

    Even if they knew her status, officials would still have no ``duty of care'' obligation to notify Whiteman, said Stefanovic.

    Citizenship and Immigration Canada only began mandatory HIV testing of all applicants 15 years and older in 2002.

    Whiteman and Iamkhong met at the Zanzibar Tavern in downtown Toronto and were married from 1997 to 2004.

    Whiteman only found out about his wife's HIV status when she was admitted to hospital in March 2004 with AIDS-like symptoms. He tested positive for the disease shortly after.

    A lawyer for Dr. Martin Taylor, a designated medical practitioner named in the lawsuit, argued that it should be dismissed because it wasn't launched within a two-year limitation period, which started when Whiteman found out he was positive.

    Whiteman didn't sue until 2008.

    "(This is) a case that is clearly doomed to fail," said Taylor's lawyer, Chris Hubbard.

    Furthermore, Taylor could not have been negligent towards Whiteman because they did not have a doctor-patient relationship. The two have never met.

    In court documents, Whiteman alleges that the Zanzibar Tavern where his ex-wife was employed should've known about her disease and not have encouraged their sexual relationship.

    Iamkhong was deported back to Thailand last year. Her lawyer was not present for the hearing Tuesday.

    In August 2007, she was convicted of criminal negligence causing bodily harm for infecting Whiteman and not disclosing her status.

    She had first tested positive for HIV in Hong Kong in 1994 after her first husband died of AIDS.

    Throughout Tuesday's hearing, Whiteman appeared visibly frustrated.

    Outside the courtroom, he said he was trying to deal with the proceedings and that his health is as good as it can be. He has not been in contact with his ex-wife for years.

    The hearing continues Wednesday.

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    She is prolly dead now if she had AIDS then and not HIV, hope she has a better life now this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    Afraid she won't get special AIDS medication in Thailand, Iamkhong believes it could be a matter of life or death.
    Bollox. AIDS meds are easily available in Thailand. Although some Thais prefer to travel to Germany or the US for medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Anyone who is HIV positive and has sex with someone else without telling them belongs in prison. It's an evil thing to do.
    What if it was a woman with HIV and she was giving a bloke a pity fuck cause he was sobbing on her shoulder about his break up and she made him bag up first.

    Probablitity of transmission - nil
    Motives - altruistic

    If I was the bloke and found out after then I am not sure I would be 100% comfortable with it but I don't think she should go to prison or that she is even doing something particlarly bad and if I never found out then no harm done and it would be a fond memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    AIDS meds are easily available in Thailand
    a lot of people cannot afford them

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    So a pimp is upset his hooker had HIV and passed it on to him, not satisfied with the earnings she made stripping and whoring for him from 1997 until 2004 now he also wants the Canadian state to give him millions in compensation, and ensure the future safety of Canadian pimps by checking that imported whores have a clean bill of health.

    I positively cry for the Guy

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    Judge tosses $33-million HIV stripper lawsuit
    Sam Pazzano
    Monday, November 04, 2013


    Percy Whiteman, 36, is suing his ex, Suwalee “Ricky” Iamkhong, Immigration Canada, a government doctor and the Zanzibar tavern, alleging their negligence led to him contracting HIV.
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    Percy Whiteman, a Zanzibar Tavern patron who married a Thai stripper and contracted HIV from the woman, can blame no one but himself, a Superior Court judge has ruled.

    Justice Carole Brown tossed out Whiteman’s $33-million lawsuit that alleged the Zanzibar, the province and federal government failed to protect him from his HIV-infected wife.

    “It is extremely unfortunate, indeed tragic, that Mr. Percy Whiteman contracted HIV from his wife, Suwalee “Ricky” Iamkhong ... who he sponsored for permanent residency in Canada,” wrote Brown.

    She ruled “there are no genuine issues requiring a trial” against the defendants, the Attorney General of Canada, or the Zanzibar.

    “I have concluded none of the defendants are responsible for Whiteman’s contraction of HIV. Mr. Whiteman was the author of his own misfortune,” Brown wrote in her judgment, which was obtained by the Toronto Sun Monday.

    Iamkhong arrived in Canada in 1995 from Hong Kong, where she had worked as an exotic dancer and briefly as a prostitute. Two weeks before she left Hong Kong, she tested positive for HIV. She worked as a stripper at the Zanzibar Tavern on Yonge St. until 2004.

    Whiteman’s lawsuit alleged the Zanzibar was liable for the stripper’s actions, which exposed the public to her disease.

    Zanzibar owner Allen Cooper, said the “case was quite distressing because it seemed meritless and totally ridiculous from the beginning.

    “He married her and chose to have unprotected sex with her while he knew she was from Thailand and had been a prostitute,” said Cooper. “It wasn’t our fault.

    “This would have set a terrible precedent for strip bars as they have to check their strippers for any diseases,” said Cooper.

    Iamkhong was sentenced in August 2007 to two years in jail after being convicted of criminal negligence causing bodily harm for infecting Whiteman. She was deported in 2010.

    Whiteman and Iamkhong were married from 1997 to 2004, when she told him that she had HIV. She was ill, brought to hospital in February 2004 and was diagnosed as HIV positive. She revealed the devastating news to Whiteman, who discovered he, too, was HIV positive.

    Court heard that Iamkhong never told Whiteman that her previous husband had died of HIV.

    Whiteman’s lawyer Maurice Benzaquen said he’s considering an appeal.

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    What a story, beggars belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    AIDS meds are easily available in Thailand
    a lot of people cannot afford them
    Poor people are covered by that Thaksin scheme and get them for free. Over the counter they cost 800 Baht/month. They are cheap because the Thai government violated patents of Western corporations, and has them produced by a non-profit corporation. Thailand is the best place in the world for people with HIV. The name of this corporation is GPO, and they manufacture a wide range of drugs. For example Azythromycin. Made by Pfizer (Zithromax) it costs 590 Baht, by GPO 250 Baht in the pharmacies. Memorise the brand and ask for it. They also have a website.

    Everything gets dramatized when HIV is the issue, as if death were imminent. 'Advanced AIDS', '75% of my life is gone', and other bullshit. 5 years on, all actors of the story are alive and well. The drugs pull people back whose immune system has shut down already, CD4 count nil. They remove all HI virae from the blood and sperma, all body fluids. A person on the drugs tests negative for HIV, and can't infect others. Even the side effects like degradation of the muscles are a thing of the past.

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    ^ i think some of the more specialist therapies have to be paid for, but otherwise treatment in Thailand is cheap, accesible and effective.

    In the US it took the govt until high profile celebs and v hisos started to get sick before taking it seriously - read "and the band played on" for more on that

    Of course thai hisos and vvvvips dont get hiv, perish the thought

    Hiv pos people can now safely have children apparently too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall

    They remove all HI virae from the blood and sperma, all body fluids.

    A person on the drugs tests negative for HIV, and can't infect others.
    FALSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall

    They remove all HI virae from the blood and sperma, all body fluids.

    A person on the drugs tests negative for HIV, and can't infect others.
    FALSE.
    Agree!

    Will test hiv+ always.

    Viral load reduces to undetectable below 20-50 parts/ml depending on test in use. Its still there due to reservoirs of infection in body.

    Chances of infecting someone if hiv+ and indetectable viral load are much reduced, but still a chance of passing on virus

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    Undetectable means the virus can't be detected by tests, doesn't it? The drug companies ran a series of studies in Africa to find out if the drugs prevent transmission, and they didn't have a single case where a person on ARV infected another. It happened a few times in the not supervised masses, but that could be caused by a patchy drug regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall

    Undetectable means the virus can't be detected by tests, doesn't it?
    used to be , the new tests can measure down to a single copy , plus as L&F correctly states the virus can and does hide / hibernate in areas of the body like the brain / bone marrow and other locals where it can sleep .

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall
    The drug companies ran a series of studies in Africa to find out if the drugs prevent transmission, and they didn't have a single case where a person on ARV infected another.
    again simply not true >

    https://www.google.com.au/#psj=1&q=h...v+transmission

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    AIDS meds are easily available in Thailand
    a lot of people cannot afford them
    Poor people are covered by that Thaksin scheme and get them for free. Over the counter they cost 800 Baht/month. They are cheap because the Thai government violated patents of Western corporations, and has them produced by a non-profit corporation. Thailand is the best place in the world for people with HIV. The name of this corporation is GPO, and they manufacture a wide range of drugs. For example Azythromycin. Made by Pfizer (Zithromax) it costs 590 Baht, by GPO 250 Baht in the pharmacies. Memorise the brand and ask for it. They also have a website.

    Everything gets dramatized when HIV is the issue, as if death were imminent. 'Advanced AIDS', '75% of my life is gone', and other bullshit. 5 years on, all actors of the story are alive and well. The drugs pull people back whose immune system has shut down already, CD4 count nil. They remove all HI virae from the blood and sperma, all body fluids. A person on the drugs tests negative for HIV, and can't infect others. Even the side effects like degradation of the muscles are a thing of the past.
    Azithromycin is an antibiotic, not anti retro viral. You pop 1.5 g when you get a dose and the little fella is good as new 24 hours later.

    As far as I know the most popular anti retro viral cocktail of entacibine, effaverenz and tenofivir have been ripped off by the Thais and are now available to pretty much everyone for peanuts in Thailand.

    There seems to be a problem in Thailand, in particular, of the stupid fokkers skipping doses or stopping meds when they feel a bit better (nothing to do with the Thai capacity for self delusion, I'm sure). This means that the most effective drug cocktails, developed at huge expense in the west and mostly paid for by taxpayer funded medicine are now becoming increasingly ineffective against resistant strains.

    So western pharma will have to spend another truckload of cash developing new therapies that the Thai can rip off and then fuck up again.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emtrici...ovir/efavirenz

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