Thread: John Coleman thinks manmade weather change is bullshit

If the debate over climate change is closed, why is John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, still trying to prove it’s all a scam?

Well over a quarter-million weathercasts—that’s the ballpark figure the 74-year-old founding father of the Weather Channel guesses he’s probably performed in his 55 years in the business. Today, as for the past 15 years, he’s chalked up another weathercast like it’s his job, because it is. This, he tells me, is the best time of his career.
Which seems odd, because in the past few years, he’s admittedly become mad as hell. Coleman is angry because he believes we have been brainwashed into thinking we’re ruining our own planet. He wants to let us off the hook, and give us some good news for a change, because, you see, John Coleman says that climate change is a scam

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If the debate over climate change is closed, why is John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, still trying to prove it’s all a scam?

I don't know. Is this a guessing game? OK - Because he, like those who quote him, is a fucking ignorant tit. Am I close?

Actually, I had a look at that article. It included a comment by a Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT, who said:

"I would not take anything that John Coleman says too seriously”

Congratulations on defeating your own post.

Originally Posted by Dan

If the debate over climate change is closed, why is John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, still trying to prove it’s all a scam?

I don't know. Is this a guessing game? OK - Because he, like those who quote him, is a fucking ignorant tit. Am I close?

I'd say you're getting very warm.

That humans have an effect on the climate is pretty much fact. That the effect is or will be catastrophic is very debatable though.

Climate change is natural - global warming is a myth to just control and create dosh for its advocates. Does it mean we can't be environmentally conscious - No, but lets be honest about it.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

global warming is a myth to just control and create dosh for its advocates

I'm not sure global warming is a myth, but the human involvement in it and the long term effects of it might be overstated.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Climate change is natural - global warming is a myth to just control and create dosh for its advocates. Does it mean we can't be environmentally conscious - No, but lets be honest about it.

agreed.
THE SKY IS FALLING IN!!!!! (again!)
we have these major "scares" every few years.
when i was a kid, it was all "acid rain" and all the world's forests were dying and so would we, pretty soon.
next one i recall was "the hole in the ozone layer" which was gonna come along and fry us all............now we don't seem to hear much about it at all (perhaps it's coz the guys who pushed it made enough dosh already by convincing us all to replace our old refrigerators with ones which were cfc free etc)
we had the year 2000 scare, with warnings of doom and gloom and computer companies making billions out of new software and computers to avert the awfull threat of our computers not being able to cope with a wrong date!
now we have "global warming" (can anybody tell me why it's been so fukkn cold lately?!!!!)
human beings love to be scared of something. it is one of the reasons that religion exists and makes so many people rich.
global warming may be real, and if the latest scare gets people to pollute less, then i am all for it, but let's face it: there have been many cycles of global warming and cooling over the past few thousands of years, and there could not have been enough man-made pollution around then to have caused it all.
i would be more likely to believe all the bullshit if i could be convinced that there was not a politician or an out-of-work-and- desperately-in-need-of-funding-for-research scientist benefitting from it all.

^ Oh! So true, tsicar. I remember all those scares - and we were all drawn into them, weren't we! I, too, have been sceptical of this "fault of the people" global warming scare since its intro and have yet to see true evidence of my failings. As you say, if it gets people to pollute less, then I, too, am al for it.

The principle degradation about scientific circles is that it tends to be extemely narrow and subjective.....

Originally Posted by NickA

That humans have an effect on the climate is pretty much fact. That the effect is or will be catastrophic is very debatable though.

Fact? Perhaps, perhaps not. What if climate/weather changes or modifications has nothing whatsoever to do with what we {humans} do or don't do. Perhaps they are just natural cycles.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Coleman is angry because he believes we have been brainwashed into thinking we’re ruining our own planet.

Climate change may or may not be BS, but we're definitely ruining our planet. In one way or another the shit will hit the fan in the next few decades. Our economy and entire existence revolves around digging stuff out of the ground, wasting it and then burying it in another hole.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to see it's unsustainable, yet heaps of otherwise intelligent ppl feel there's no problem. What do you think the world we be like in 40 years? Anyone with kids should give this a bit of thought.

Originally Posted by NickA

That humans have an effect on the climate is pretty much fact. That the effect is or will be catastrophic is very debatable though.

Is that the reason weather gets colder and colder here ?

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon...

That's a stroke of luck.

Derrick Jensen describes insanity as a failure to believe the stories which reality tell you. He claims - justifiably - that our culture is therefore insane. It would seem that the insanity runs deep here, too.

The principle degradation about scientific circles is that it tends to be extemely narrow and subjective.....

That sounds like it got lost in an AI translation program. What the fuck does it mean?

Originally Posted by Repubblicano

Originally Posted by NickA

That humans have an effect on the climate is pretty much fact. That the effect is or will be catastrophic is very debatable though.

Is that the reason weather gets colder and colder here ?

Oh, for fuck's sake.

1. Climate is not the same as weather.
2. The climate is not getting colder and colder. The world is warming.

Do you really think that climate change means that every day, or every week, or even every year, has to be hotter than the last? Do you? If the answer is no, why the fuck did you make such a stupid comment and if the answer's yes, you have no idea what you're talking about.

What's most revealing about these types of threads is that centuries after the Enlightenment, the use of reason - even in the mildest sense - is still as distant a dream as it was in the Middle Ages. It seems that mass education and mass literacy have accomplished nothing

Global warming BS!

Why has the earth been cooling over the last 2 years?

Why has the ice caps on Mars started to melt?


Nothing more than the sun giving off more heat over the past 10 years. That cycle is now complete and the earth will start cooling again.

I have no doubt that the earth is warming, I can remember when we has 6" of ice on the river and ponds at home and were ice skating before thanksgiving, and the ranches with ice houses were cutting ice and stacking it away for simmer use in an ice box as we had no electricity away from the citys.
The days are hotter this summer here that it has ever been in the 10 years I been here, just 3 years ago 101 was a record and this week was 105,
But that is nothing that hasn't happen before, tho maybe 200K years ago. but for the last 30, 20,000 for sure it has been in a warming trend and do not know how far it will go, doesn't seem to be in any history found in studies how hot it got before the last ice age, but we will find out and then will find out how long it takes for the ice to form again,
this is a regular cycle for the earth and it will all happen again, at least it will unless some screwball pushes the wrong button.
Man might be making it happen a little faster, maybe not, but it will happen man or no man. we are just not that important in the scheme of things..

[quote=Dan;965195]

Derrick Jensen describes insanity as a failure to believe the stories which reality tell you. He claims - justifiably - that our culture is therefore insane.

I'd go along with that.

I remember the saying: "Besides yourself and I, the whole world is crazy - and I'm not sure about you".

Originally Posted by blackgang

We are just not that important in the scheme of things..

Regardless of whether climate change is a reality or conspiracy, we are that important and we are destroying the world. I don't know where you grow up, but I bet there's less fish, trees or whatever there than when you were a kid.

Australia seems to be in permanent drought, has just had it's hottest day and worst bushfires ever, ppl over there are shitting themselves and are very environmentally conscious - this doesn't mean their doing the right thing though, Australian's rank 2nd after yanks as the world's greatest consumer. But they will all tell you the problem lies in India 'cause they have too many kids.

Do i believe the politicians (liars) and the few politically backed scientist, or do i believe the majority of scientist who claim otherwise?

If the latter part of this sentence means that the majority of scientists working in this area don't subscribe to the claim that CO2, NOX, CH4, HCFCs, CFCs, etc are greenhouse gases, that these gases have increased in concentration and that this has caused, is causing, and will continue to cause an increase in global temperatures, you're very, very wrong. Let's see your evidence because, as far as I know, all the major scientific academies of the world stand firmly behind the work of the IPCC.

That the world has warmed - and cooled - for non-anthropogenic reasons in the past is obviously true. What is not obviously true is that this explains the current warming. In fact, there is simply no way to explain the warming which is occurring at the moment without reference to man-made climate change. If anyone thinks this isn't true, then please post reputable references (ie peer-reviewed papers). In the absence of this - and the dreams of right-wing fantasists and corporate shills do not count - I really don't think that there's much to be said. This is, after all, a question for science.

Thank you for your posts Dan. That needed to be said.

Perfect in content and style - guess we now wait for someone to post reliable evidence that global warming is a "scam".

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We are really THAT FUCKING ARROGANT to think we are a threat to the planet???

Of course we're a threat in all sorts of ways. The most obvious being nuclear weapons. What happens if we start firing them all over the place?

Sure it's an extreme example, but it also shows the brainlessness that has led to the sad state of the world environmentally and otherwise.

It's amazing to see how easily most ppl swallow the terror threat propaganda. Yet environmental issues (not just climate change) are an obvious time bomb and so many ppl call them conspiracies.