sorry I think it is romanOriginally Posted by EmperorTud
Romans had a version of fruit reserve but the recipe as we know it today as marmalade is a Scottish invention.Originally Posted by good2bhappy
From Dundee in fact.
No, the Romans never conquered Scotland. In fact they had to build two walls to keep us out.Originally Posted by AntRobertson
Not very good at this history lark are you?
1780?
the word appeared in english in the late 15th century!
1797^^
In fact the word is originally Greek.Originally Posted by good2bhappy
It was called Dundee Marmelade
Roses make a lovely lime marmelade!
not all marmelade is made from seville oranges
You must have smelt really badOriginally Posted by EmperorTud
could you tell us the ancient greek word for marmeladeOriginally Posted by EmperorTud
The typical Englishman finishes his breakfast of toast and marmalade invented by Mrs Keller of Dundee, Scotland, and slipsinto his raincoat, patented by Charles Mackintosh from Glasgow, Scotland. He then walks to his office along an Enlgish - tarmac surfaced - lane, invented by John Loudon MacAdam of Ayr, Scotland. Or he arrives in his car, which is fitted with pneumatic tyres patnented by John Boyd Dunlop, of Dreghorn, Scotland.
Before he had a car he used to travel by train, which was powered by a steam engine, invested by James Watt of Greenock, Scotland.
In his office he deals with the mail bearing adhesice stamps invented by John Chalmers of Dundee, Scotland, and makes frequent use of the telephone, invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland.
At home in the evening, he dines on his favourite Roast beef from Aberdeen Angus, raised in Aberdeenshire, Scotland. He then watches some television - an invention of Scotsman John Logie Baird, of Helensbourgh, Scotland - about John Paul Jones, father of the United States navy, born in Kirkbean, Scotland. The Englishman's son prefers to read Treasure Island, written by famous Scottish author, Robert Louis Stevenson, from Edinburgh, Scotland. Whilst his daughter prefers to play in the garden with her bicycle, invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, of Thornhill, Scotland.
It is impossible for an Englishman to escape the ingenuity of the Scots!
In desperation he turns to the bible only to find that the first person metioned is a Scotsman king James V1, who authorized the translation.
He could - of course - turn to drink, but Scotland makes the finest whiskey in the world.
At the end of his tether he uplifts a rifle to end it all, but Captain Patrick Feguson, of Pitfours, Scotland invented the Breech-loading-rifle!
If the Englishman escapes death by the rifle, he would find himself being injected with penicillin - discovered by Scottish Bacteriologist, Sir Alexander Fleming, of Darvel, Scotland - or he might be given Chloroform, am anaesthetic first used by Sir James Young Simpson, of Bathgate, Scotland.
Out of the anaesthetic, the Englishman's mood would not be improved if the doctor told him that his condition was as safe as the bank of England, which was founded by William Paterson, of Dumfries, Scotland.
Mortals you defy the Gods, I sentence you to travel among unknown stars, until you find the Kingdom of Hades, your bodies will stay as lifeless as stone.
The extension of "marmalade" in the English language to refer to citrus fruits was made in the 17th century, when citrus first began to be plentiful enough in England for the usage to become common
Isn't it called "marmelade" when made from citrus fruits, otherwise "jam"?
Yummy!Originally Posted by good2bhappy
^^^
Excellent stuff. Makes me proud to be British.
I'm of Scottish descent.
I believe that I am in some way distantly related to this Dunlop fella.
My Scottish grandfather (of many 'greats') had a movie made about him. It starred Mel Gibson.
Even my home town in Australia is named after a Scottish town.
I even learnt to play those bloody awful bagpipes.
Oh for fucks sake! Get a life & stop trying to fuck mine up!
All humour aside Ant, I realize that extreme description of Maori civilization is OTT. Sure they weren't saints {by human standards}, but I've never ever heard of such historic items as that towards them....even in our PC anti-eurocentric world. Someone needs a victim.
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