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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles
    MAO, only ten people voted in your poll . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Find some more polls if you can.

    Try and find a recent one.

    2010 was the last I can find.

    Just one in 10 respondents in last week's Sun-Herald/Nielsen poll said she was innocent, 41 per cent guilty and 48 per cent did not know.


    Read more: Time to bring Corby home

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^What poll was that?
    "Sins of the Father" On Schapelle Corby | She's Guilty: Publisher

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    I note you failed to respond to my earlier posts.

    The point is ENT, the application of Occam's principle alone suggests she is guilty as sin but in the western realm of jurisprudence that is rightly not relevant to a court of law. It is unlikely Corby's guilt would have been established in a jury trial and doubtless she would have been acquitted.

    However, on the balance of probability it is certain that either she imported the drugs knowingly or a member of her group did and she is shielding that person. The consequential tosh casting doubt on this by the raising of red herrings to the nth degree is quite irrelevant.

    Quite why you cannot see this is difficult to understand. As I have said earlier the unfairness of her trial is no determinant of her innocence. It just led to her conviction which in the circumstances was actually a just decision.

    In smuggling cases where the contraband is found in baggage the defence is always one of ignorance allied to an attempt to raise doubt by the supposition it was placed there by another. The prosecution have to show it was imported knowingly and with intent but on occasion this can be difficult to prove and an acquittal usually ensues. The Indo judge was not constrained by this approach and made his decision accordingly. Just because it might seem unjust in the West doesn't mean she is innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post

    Quite why you cannot see this is difficult to understand.
    You haven't been following ENT's posts in other threads, thegent. His manufacturing of consensus and inability to differentiate reality from idealism and fantasy is well-documented and there for all to see....if you don't mind risking your sense of reason and proportion.
    And perhaps that is the nub of it. Mild schizophrenia or something similar.
    Not that I disagree with everything he has said on this thread....there are a few good and challenging points he has made. But they haven't always been filtered through a sense of proportion. This is what twists your mind when following his logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote terry57: "Your statement that Corby has majority support in Australia is an out and out lie and spreading misinformation."

    "All poll's came back saying the majority consider her proven guilty."

    You're wrong there mate.

    Is Shapelle Corby Guilty?
    Yes 20%
    No 50%
    I'm Unsure 30%
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    LMAO, only ten people voted in your poll . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Heres the result from a poll with 53731 voters.

    You forgot to add the disclaimer to that poll.


    Disclaimer:
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    Read more: "Sins of the Father" On Schapelle Corby | She's Guilty: Publisher

    The poll was run by Allan and Unwin, publishers of Eamonn Duff's book "Sins of the father".

    So it was the opinions of those who were presumably suitably swayed by Duff's book, much of it since discredited by AFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.

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    ^ Why bother?

    She's guilty, and locked up. She'll get out in a few years if she carries on playing the nice girl (she should consider turning Mussie, that would knock a few years off I'm sure).

    When she gets out she's going to coin it with the interviews, "tell all" book and TV movie of her "life story" (played by some bird who was once in Home and Away).

    Who honestly gives a fuck, she's not the first arrogant mug to underestimate foreigners, and she won't be the last.
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    Sure she'll get out sooner or later.
    Underestimating foreigners was her prime mistake, and yup, par for the course.

    The full story will come out in the end and by then the ones who have most to lose by it will be either retired, busted or dead.

    What amazes me is the number of people that actually believe the crap Duff wrote and how they like to stick to their stereotypical views of what passes as "good" or "bad" folks in society.

    Mind you, it shouldn't be any surprise that most of the posts in the last few pages on this thread have been made by middle aged or older, middle class Ockers a number of whom live in Indonesia.

    The type who would vote guilty in a poll
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    yep.

    She'll get out and be proved innocent in the end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote terry57: "Your statement that Corby has majority support in Australia is an out and out lie and spreading misinformation."

    "All poll's came back saying the majority consider her proven guilty."

    You're wrong there mate.

    Is Shapelle Corby Guilty?
    Yes 20%
    No 50%
    I'm Unsure 30%
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    LMAO, only ten people voted in your poll . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Heres the result from a poll with 53731 voters.

    You forgot to add the disclaimer to that poll.


    Disclaimer:
    These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.



    Read more: "Sins of the Father" On Schapelle Corby | She's Guilty: Publisher

    The poll was run by Allan and Unwin, publishers of Eamonn Duff's book "Sins of the father".

    So it was the opinions of those who were presumably suitably swayed by Duff's book, much of it since discredited by AFP.
    Are you saying your poll in which 10 people voted was scientific.

    Get that fuck outta here you moron.

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    No, Allan and Unwin claimed that their poll was not scientific.

    So you go take the the frk off outa here dipshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post

    In smuggling cases where the contraband is found in baggage the defence is always one of ignorance allied to an attempt to raise doubt by the supposition it was placed there by another. The prosecution have to show it was imported knowingly and with intent but on occasion this can be difficult to prove and an acquittal usually ensues. The Indo judge was not constrained by this approach and made his decision accordingly. Just because it might seem unjust in the West doesn't mean she is innocent.
    By the same token, it doesn't mean that she's guilty either.

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    She's guilty under Indonesian law, and that's all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    Find some more polls if you can.

    How many more do you want ?

    Maybe hold one in Afghanistan, you might have more luck over there where the vast majority of the population are dead ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post

    In smuggling cases where the contraband is found in baggage the defence is always one of ignorance allied to an attempt to raise doubt by the supposition it was placed there by another. The prosecution have to show it was imported knowingly and with intent but on occasion this can be difficult to prove and an acquittal usually ensues. The Indo judge was not constrained by this approach and made his decision accordingly. Just because it might seem unjust in the West doesn't mean she is innocent.
    By the same token, it doesn't mean that she's guilty either.
    I rather think the dope found in her bag establishes that, old bean.

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    Ent, I appreciate all your efforts but I will once again you are pissing in the wind. I know this first hand as I in the end lost all I had in the world because of the corrupt Indonesian justice system.

    But it did change my life. Great set of twin daughters, wife twice as smart as I, and an expatriated life. Would have had none of the great without the bad. Life is funny.

    There is a thread here about it, or you can pm me for details but as for now mate, all we are all doing is.


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    [quote=harrybarracuda;2083037]^ Why bother?



    When she gets out she's going to coin it with the interviews, "tell all" book and TV movie of her "life story" (played by some bird who was once in Home and Away).



    I think the law in OZ is you can not make money on your crimes with books and interviews ,the government will take it all.
    As my dear old departed dad would say about crooks in goal."The jails are full of innocent people ,you ask them they will tell you it was not them that done it "

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    The full story will come out in the end and by then the ones who have most to lose by it will be either retired, busted or dead.



    Oh yes, I'll bet there shitting in there boots this very minute because Corby may be up for an early release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    No, Allan and Unwin claimed that their poll was not scientific.
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    I keep re-reading my link but for the life of me cannot find where Allan and Unwin claimed it was their poll.

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    ^^You obviously don't read anything deeper than a book like Duffs.

    Why don't you read up about the police enquiry into the baggage handlers at Oz airports, the AFP and organised interstate drug shipments in Oz?

    I suppose you think that's all bullshit too?
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    ^ It's published on their web page right under the poll result you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    You obviously don't read anything deeper than a book like Duffs.

    Why don't you read up about the police enquiry into the baggage handlers at Oz airports, the AFP and organised interstate drug shipments in Oz?

    I suppose you think that's all bullshit too?
    You said it was their poll, I cannot find evidence of this, what I think is bullshit is the bullshit you are speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUGBEAR View Post
    I think the law in OZ is you can not make money on your crimes with books and interviews ,the government will take it all.
    As my dear old departed dad would say about crooks in goal."The jails are full of innocent people ,you ask them they will tell you it was not them that done it "

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    Surely that can only apply to crimes committed under Australian law. For example, here in the sandpit you can be fined and arrested for kissing in public.

    Don't think that applies in Australia (well not yet, anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BUGBEAR View Post
    I think the law in OZ is you can not make money on your crimes with books and interviews ,the government will take it all.
    As my dear old departed dad would say about crooks in goal."The jails are full of innocent people ,you ask them they will tell you it was not them that done it "

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    Surely that can only apply to crimes committed under Australian law. For example, here in the sandpit you can be fined and arrested for kissing in public.

    Don't think that applies in Australia (well not yet, anyway).

    You may be correct Harry, but if she finishes her sentence in AUS any proceeds of her crime will seized under the proceeds of crime act.

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