Thread: Airline News

^ Says on pprune that is was a brand new 737 Max. The flight profile looks ragged almost as soon as it takes off....

^ you wont have time, that other flight only got to 2500 feet.

When you buy the airline wifi, just buy the 15 minute package to keep us informed.

Thai Lion Air just bought a load of those Boeing's like the one that just crashed

Thai Lion Air to pursue more rapid international expansion as A330-300s and 737 MAX 8s are delivered

Bon Voyage

Anyone flown AirAsia recently? The emergency exits on every domestic flight I have flown are obstructed by seats, which places passengers at risk in the event of a need for emergency evacuation.

Disclaimer: I have not flown on every AirAsia plane, or on every domestic and international route, and am not implying that AirAsia policy compromises passenger safety for increased revenue on every flight. But it does on every flight I have been on.

I have contacted AirAsia about this on more than one occasion, with no response.

If or when an incident occurs involving passengers being injured or killed because emergency exits were blocked, I expect AirAsia to offer a hand to heart apology, sack a few low end staff and remove obstructions until the outrage dies down.

Note: AirAsia is not an IATA member, and probably isn't bound by its safety rules.

Originally Posted by jabir

Anyone flown AirAsia recently? The emergency exits on every domestic flight I have flown are obstructed by seats

Extra legroom seats?

I thought all airlines did that?

Originally Posted by Dillinger

Extra legroom seats?

I thought all airlines did that?

No, the extra leg seats are up front, the emergency exits are regular; 4 lines of 3 seats = 12 extra passengers per flight = more profit vs a potential couple of hundred dead passengers = difficult decision.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Get your skyscanner going.

Or maybe Traveloka. Based in Indonesia apparently.

BKK CM, for a start.

On Skyscanner, booking atleast 8 weeks ahead, which is the golden rule when booking flights, Air Asia is at least 20% cheaper than anyone

Originally Posted by jabir

Anyone flown AirAsia recently?

Flew with them to and from CM - BKK - Tokyo in July.

Emergency exits were fine, but not serving meals until three hours into the flight was an obvious ploy to make people pay their exorbitant charges for snacks.

None of the Thais were biting.

Generally, AA seems to have lost its appeal. It's no longer among the cheaper deals on many routes, and has nothing that is worth paying extra for.

Then there's Don Muang...

Originally Posted by cyrille

AA seems to have lost its appeal. It's no longer among the cheaper deals on many routes,

Care to name those routes?

Originally Posted by cyrille

has nothing that is worth paying extra for.

the 100 baht seats at the front, just behind the red seats are well worth paying for if you are flying into Don Mueang and its queues, as is Uncle Chin's chicken and rice

Originally Posted by Dillinger

Care to name those routes?

Get your skyscanner going.

Or maybe Traveloka. Based in Indonesia apparently.

BKK CM, for a start.

Originally Posted by jabir

the emergency exits are regular

Hot Seats

Located in the front of the plane and emergency exit rows, Hot Seats comes with 29” pitch and 16-17” width. You can even stretch out with at least 20.3” of legroom on rows 1, 12, and 14. On top of that, you'll also get to board first.

https://www.airasia.com/my/en/inflig...t-options.page

Originally Posted by Dillinger

https://www.airasia.com/my/en/inflig...t-options.page

Something not right here. There were two single sets of emergency exits (excluding front/rear) on my domestic flights (plans show just one double-set on the A320), both obstructed by seats, with front seven rows of hotseats (1-2 VIP, 3-7 (8?) hotseat, plan shows two sets, 1-5, 12-14).

Unfortunately crew came over as I took pics of the forward exits, mild scolding with wifey on their side as expected, had no time to email them so sheepishly deleted. Odd, that, never before had a problem taking pics of family/friends on board.

Originally Posted by jabir

Something not right here. There were two single sets of emergency exits (excluding front/rear) on my domestic flights (plans show just one double-set on the A320), both obstructed by seats, with front seven rows of hotseats (1-2 VIP, 3-7 (8?) hotseat, plan shows two sets, 1-5, 12-14).

Unfortunately crew came over as I took pics of the forward exits, mild scolding with wifey on their side as expected, had no time to email them so sheepishly deleted. Odd, that, never before had a problem taking pics of family/friends on board.

Which aircraft and which emergency exits are you referring to? It's normal to have seating adjacent to overwing exits and I can;t see how extra seats can be fitted near the forward and rear exits.

Bit of a pet subject of yours then, dill?



Like many people working in this region, I never....ever...know my holidays two months ahead.

I'm also never....ever...looking for flights that leave after 3pm.

For earlier flights there are better, cheaper options from Suwannapoom, which don't involve a 1 hour bus ride. Vietjet in particular.

BTW...skyscanner prices shown are NEVER anywhere near what you end up actually paying after add-ons like baggage and, oh yeah, an actual seat to sit on.

*sheesh*

And yeah, I know it's not officially spelt 'Suwannapoom'.

Originally Posted by cyrille

For earlier flights there are better, cheaper options from Suwannapoom

You are talking bollocks Cyrille, or are a fucking stowaway

Air Asia A320 seating plan.



The over-wing yellow seats are standard 29" spacing, but do not recline. No mention of additional leg room to the row behind.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ai...Airbus_320.php

Areas of inquiry in Lion Air crash



Oct. 29, 2018, (c) Leeham News:

"A three month old Boeing 737-8 MAX crashed into the sea yesterday. There are scant clues.

A technical fault was reported the day before the flight, which was unspecified in the news reports LNC has seen. It was said to have been corrected.

Flight tracking showed a rapid descent into the water. One news story reported the pilot radioed he wanted to return due to something, but this is vague and unconfirmed.


It is far too early to speculate what happened to the airplane. There is just too much we don’t know, other than FlightTracker showed what appeared to be a rapid descent into the water.
Here’s what investigations will consider—all as a matter of the normal course of any investigation. This is not listed in priority.

Areas of investigation

• Crew proficiency, training, operation of the aircraft, health, impairments (if any).
• Was there any unusual cockpit activity (ie, cockpit intrusion, fighting, pilot suicide, hijacking, etc.).
• Terrorism, such as killing the pilots, bombing, sabotage.
• Weather influence.
• Mechanical condition of the airplane (generally and the previous day’s technical issue). Even though the airplane was brand new, the mechanical condition and history of the plane.
• Were there any faults in the construction of the airplane or engines?
• Did the delivery delay of the engines that Boeing encountered since June, with the subsequent open air storage of the airplane, play any role? Was this airplane among those involved?
• Lion Air’s safety history and maintenance practices.

All this is standard."

From the comments page:

"There is unconfirmed reports that the fault the previous day was related to unreliable airspeed data at the captains instruments while the FO instrument indicated reliable air speed data. There is also some that claim they can see the same patterns of unstable (faulty?) air speed data on the Flight Radar ADS-B plots for the flight the previous day as well as the accident flight."





Allegedly from the plane. An unusual up and then down, one suspects.

"I noticed that too. overall that plane went from 5k feet to 0 in 17 seconds, 11 seconds from that vertical speed transient to impact (which was in the vicinity of 4000 feet by the trace). that’s about 250 mph vertical speed….

both point to either a major mechanical/structural failure or pilot action."

https://leehamnews.com/2018/10/29/ar...ion-air-crash/

The company tag, "We make people fly", may need to be revised.

I wonder if this is an AF447 scenario? Apparently there is some evidence of malfunctioning pitot tubes.

Thai Airways Int'l introduces new business recovery plan

BANGKOK, 31 October 2018 (NNT) - Thai Airways International is introducing a new business recovery plan in November and expecting itself to become one of the world's top five airlines in three years.

THAI Chairman Ekniti Nitithanprapas said the national flag carrier firm is in the process of making a business recovery plan to revive and upgrade it as one of the world's top five airlines within three years.

He said recent incidents will be taken as lessons for the airline to improve and reform, which will need cooperation with all its staff, while the business recovery plan is now being revised by senior executives, and will be unveiled in November.

The plan will cover the airline's revenue increasing methods, safety measures which will remain the top priority, customer services, and cuts in unnecessary expenditure, all of which will make the airline grow further and become a premium carrier to bring about pride to the country.

The THAI chairman said that flight delays may have occurred as the pilots were obliged to consider safety measures for their passengers as the utmost priority, while the airline's fleet is currently not in full capacity with some ageing aircraft, and the firm has negotiated with Rolls Royce to provide substitute engines for its aircraft.

National News Bureau Of Thailand | Thai Airways Int'l introduces new business recovery plan

Originally Posted by misskit

Thai Airways Int'l introduces new business recovery plan


BANGKOK, 31 October 2018 (NNT) - Thai Airways International is introducing a new business recovery plan in November and expecting itself to become one of the world's top five airlines in three years.

THAI Chairman Ekniti Nitithanprapas said the national flag carrier firm is in the process of making a business recovery plan to revive and upgrade it as one of the world's top five airlines within three years.

He said recent incidents will be taken as lessons for the airline to improve and reform, which will need cooperation with all its staff, while the business recovery plan is now being revised by senior executives, and will be unveiled in November.

The plan will cover the airline's revenue increasing methods, safety measures which will remain the top priority, customer services, and cuts in unnecessary expenditure, all of which will make the airline grow further and become a premium carrier to bring about pride to the country.

The THAI chairman said that flight delays may have occurred as the pilots were obliged to consider safety measures for their passengers as the utmost priority, while the airline's fleet is currently not in full capacity with some ageing aircraft, and the firm has negotiated with Rolls Royce to provide substitute engines for its aircraft.

National News Bureau Of Thailand | Thai Airways Int'l introduces new business recovery plan

It should be something like:

1. Safety
2. Stop the fucking freebies

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It should be something like:

1. Safety
2. Stop the fucking freebies

Their other idea Is to show live Lakorn .
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...nue-strategies

Originally Posted by klong toey

Their other idea Is to show live Lakorn .
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...nue-strategies

Behold! The business is saved!

What happened to the Lion Air thread?

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