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    Breakthrough in nuclear fusion energy announced

    Breakthrough in nuclear fusion energy announced

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    Image caption,The interior of the target chamber at LLNL, where nuclear fusion takes place

    A major breakthrough has been announced by US scientists in the race to recreate nuclear fusion.


    Physicists have pursued the technology for decades as it promises a potential source of near-limitless clean energy.


    On Tuesday researchers confirmed they have overcome a major barrier - producing more energy from a fusion experiment than was put in.


    But experts say there is still some way to go before fusion powers homes.







    The experiment took place at the National Ignition Facility at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) in California.


    LLNL director Dr Kim Budil said: "This is a historic achievement… over the past 60 years thousands of people have contributed to this endeavour and it took real vision to get us here."



    Nuclear fusion is described as the "holy grail" of energy production. It is the process that powers the Sun and other stars.


    It works by taking pairs of light atoms and forcing them together - this "fusion" releases a lot of energy.


    It is the opposite of nuclear fission, where heavy atoms are split apart. Fission is the technology currently used in nuclear power stations, but the process also produces a lot of waste that continues to give out radiation for a long time. It can be dangerous and must be stored safely.


    Nuclear fusion produces far more energy, and only small amounts of short-lived radioactive waste. And importantly, the process produces no greenhouse gas emissions and therefore does not contribute to climate change.


    But one of the challenges is that forcing and keeping the elements together in fusion requires very high temperatures and pressures. Until now, no experiment has managed to produce more energy than the amount put in to make it work.


    How close is a fusion-powered future?


    The amount of energy they've generated in this experiment is tiny - just enough to boil a few kettles. But what it represents is huge.



    The promise of a fusion-powered future is one step closer. But there's still a long way to go before this becomes a reality.


    This experiment shows that the science works. Before scientists can even think about scaling it up, it needs to be repeated, perfected, and the amount of energy it generates will have to be significantly boosted.


    This experiment has cost billions of dollars - fusion does not come cheap. But the promise of a source of clean energy will certainly be a big incentive for overcoming these challenges.




    The National Ignition Facility in California is a $3.5bn (£2.85bn) experiment.


    It puts a tiny amount of hydrogen into a capsule the size of a peppercorn.


    Then a powerful 192-beam laser is used to heat and compress the hydrogen fuel.



    The laser is so strong it can heat the capsule to 100 million degrees Celsius - hotter than the centre of the Sun, and compress it to more than 100 billion times that of Earth's atmosphere.


    Under these forces the capsule begins to implode on itself, forcing the hydrogen atoms to fuse and release energy.


    On announcing the breakthrough Dr Marvin Adams, deputy administrator for defense programs at the US National Nuclear Security Administration, said that the laboratory's lasers had input 2.05 megajoules (MJ) of energy to the target, which had then produced 3.15 MJ of fusion energy output.




    Dr Melanie Windridge, CEO of Fusion Energy Insights, told the BBC: "Fusion has been exciting scientists since they first figured out what was causing the Sun to shine. These results today really put us on the path to the commercialisation of the technology."


    Jeremy Chittenden, professor of plasma physics and co-director of the Centre for Inertial Fusion Studies at Imperial College London, called it "a true breakthrough moment".


    "It proves that the long sought-after goal, the 'holy grail' of fusion, can indeed be achieved," he said.


    This has been the sentiment echoed by physicists globally, who praised the work of the international science community.


    Prof Gianluca Gregori, Professor of Physics at the University of Oxford, said: "Today's success rests upon the work done by many scientists in the US, UK and around the world. With ignition now achieved, not only fusion energy is unlocked, but also a door is opening to new science."


    On the question of how long before we could see fusion being used in power stations, Dr Budil, the LLNL director, said there were still significant hurdles but that: "with concerted efforts and investment, a few decades of research on the underlying technologies could put us in a position to build a power plant".


    This is progress from when scientists used to say 50-60 years in answer to that question.


    One of the main hurdles is getting costs down and scaling up the energy output.


    The experiment was only able to produce enough energy to boil about 15-20 kettles and required billions of dollars of investment. And although the experiment got more energy out than the laser put in, this did not include the energy needed to make the lasers work - which was far greater than the amount of energy the hydrogen produced.
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    I too have high hopes for fusion power. But not from state run or international multi billion $ contraptions that may be able to light a candle.

    There is at least half a dozen startups or small companies who work with latest materials for superconducting magnetic containment for compact cost efficient fusion devices. One or several of them may come up with something that can actually be competetive on the energy market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    I too have high hopes for fusion power
    As do I but many hurdles yet to overcome to make it a practical energy source.

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    A subject I have studied.

    The theory is not that complex and was understood when I was at Copenhagen Uni in 1970s, the technology is just very hard to build and control safely. Stanford, Oxford, and the Tokamak at Iter and others are working on trials

    Imagine trying to grasp a jelly with wet gloves but the plasma will be at solar temps.

    The ignition is 192 lasers the trick/problem is to control using magnets which should produce more output than input. Needs to work full time not just tiny intervals in trials.

    Once you have that its a giant kettle boiling to run a turbine.

    Regardless of climate change this tech has numerous boons

    1 Much less hazardous by product has no cost and Helium can be sold.
    2 Much cheaper can be located at or next to consumers
    3 The containment and waste management infrastructure smaller
    4 As we have had nuclear ice breakers and subs for decades the fission reactors could be small enough for district street level use.
    5 Eventually small/light enough to power individual office blocks, Malls, Smelters, Factories, ships, barges, large trucks buses even. Electric steel production will be eased.
    6 The weight will probably not mean practical for a car or bike yet, but homes possible in theory if cheap enough fixed costs as per solar.

    We will know its real when the big oil gas folks get seriously involved as once its really functioning safely there will be less demand or even permission for fossil fuels.

    It may also power super deep drills to obtain hot rocks thermal energy a project I witnessed at Camborne School of Mines. Very simply put go deep pour in water it comes out with a heat gain from deep below.

    Once viable it will transform economics making heating and aircon virtually free, battery powered flight. Cheap shipping via drone
    Long distance pumping, green deserts Neum type places anywhere from Sahara to Antarctica.

    One key aspect will be desalination and ocean gold mining, metallurgy and any others that use a lot of power cement, fertilizer, public transport etc
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    ^ I think you are being overly optimistic on everything, David.
    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Regardless of climate change this tech has numerous boons

    1 Much less hazardous by product has no cost and Helium can be sold.
    The neutrons produced from fusion will be just as dangerous as neutrons produced from fission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    The neutrons produced from fusion will be just as dangerous as neutrons produced from fission.
    Yes, but radioactive byproducts will be not nearly as much as with fission. Also byproducts that don't have nearly as long half times as fission byproducts. Maybe 100 years until safe compared to a million years or more for fission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ^ I think you are being overly optimistic on everything, David.

    The neutrons produced from fusion will be just as dangerous as neutrons produced from fission.

    Agreed I didn't claim it was risk free, nearly all technology has risks, there is also the argument that tritium fuel will not be self sustaining and therefore likely need replenishment that require fission products.

    I am a dinosaur on the technology but the ITER team seem confident the theory can work at wholesale scale .Of course managing ionising radiation has a range of aspects from Volume, containment, storage and half lives.

    If we are looking at the 'Bigger Picture" the human ad environmental costs of all fules need be compared.

    Whatever my knowledge or lack of it the Chinese Americans and EU are going for it.

    China'''s Artificial Sun Just Broke a Record for Longest Sustained Nuclear Fusion | Smart News|
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    If the Chinese make a quantum leap if you will they ay be able to mass produce for their industry and client states.

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    It's still all a long way off. Not in my lifetime, methinks.
    Last edited by Neverna; 17-12-2022 at 02:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    It's still all a long way off. Not in my lifetime, methinks.
    Well quite probable if retired to Thailand ad infinitum like me.

    The great advantage becoming a bumbling idiot here is nobody notices as I begin to resemble the locals.

    For the under 40s in the developed world they may live to see it ?For now the heavy water I have is large bottles for my coffee machines.

    I think the economic argument coupled to the environmental pressures will accelerate as my own half life is less than my single malt I am invested in an idea I do not expect to see fulfilled.

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    I always thought cold fusion was the holy grail. Talk of that seems to have died a death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    I always thought cold fusion was the holy grail.
    Almost 100% sure it is not real.

    When the cold fusion hype started, I was lucky to have some work at the Hahn Meitner Institut in Berlin, with their data center. I talked with the people there who had talked about it with their nuclear scientists. Those were certain, this was not correct. Even if not a scam, they said, the claims were based on Neutron emission measurements. Neutron measurement is very tricky and can go easily wrong.

    The holy grail would be aneutronic fusion with He3, which would cause even much less radioactive waste than the deuterium/tritium fusion scientists and engieers presently work on. Unfortunately He3 fusion is even much harder than deuterium/tritium fusion which we still can not do at a technical scale and won't do for quite a while.

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    A major milestone no doubt, but as others said, how long until it is scalable for real world application?
    I doubt I will see it in my lifetime.
    The challenge is not only to produce more than you put in, but to do it in a cost effective fashion.

    Non the less, exciting news
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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