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What is a name , what will you call your yuletide bird.

Turkey wants to be called Türkiye in rebranding move




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By Tiffany Wertheimer
BBC News





Turkey will be known as Türkiye at the United Nations from now on, after it agreed to a formal request from Ankara.


Several international bodies will be asked to make the name change as part of a rebranding campaign launched by the Turkish president late last year.


"Türkiye is the best representation and expression of the Turkish people's culture, civilization, and values," Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in December.


The UN says it made the change as soon as it received the request this week.


Most Turks already know their country as Türkiye. However the anglicised form Turkey is widely used, even within the country.


State broadcaster TRT was quick to make the change as soon as it was announced last year, explaining that among the reasons for the image rebrand was the association with the bird traditionally associated with Christmas, New Year or Thanksgiving.


It also pointed out the Cambridge English Dictionary's definition of one of the meanings of the word as "something that fails badly" or "a stupid or silly person".


Why Turkey is now 'Türkiye'


As part of the re-branding, "Made in Türkiye" will feature on all exported products, and in January a tourism campaign was launched with the catch-phrase "Hello Türkiye".




The move has been met with a mixed reaction online. While government officials support it, others say it is an ineffective distraction as the president gears up for elections next year, amid an economic crisis.

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It is not uncommon for countries to change their names.


In 2020, The Netherlands dropped Holland in a rebranding move. And before that, Macedonia changed its name to North Macedonia due to a political dispute with Greece, and Swaziland became Eswatini in 2018.


Further back in history, Iran used to be called Persia, Siam is now Thailand, and Rhodesia was changed to Zimbabwe.


A name shared with a bird



Onur Erem, BBC Turkish service


The Ü may be tricky for most of the international audience who don't have that letter in their alphabet but it's the same as the German Ü, like the U in pure or cue. So for an English-speaker, changing the first vowel of Turkey to a Ü and adding an E to the end (as in pet) is enough to pronounce the new name perfectly.




But why was this necessary? President Erdogan was pushing for this move for years, arguing that the country would be better represented with the Turkish name instead of sharing the same word with a bird.


Turkey the bird is called by a different name in many languages, such as "peru" in Portuguese, while in Turkish it is "hindi".




Many social media users refer to this fact to criticise the Turkish government's move as absurd, while others agree that it was a necessary rebranding.


We have to wait and see if people around the world will accept Türkiye instead of Turkey, Turquie or Twrci.

Might cost a few quid to repaint all those aircraft belonging to the national carrier?

i think Twerky might have gained more support

Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed to his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Turkey be transformed into a gas hub. This could be a pricing mechanism, in addition to a delivery platform, something that Turkey will certainly find interesting as it aims to shape the region according to its own interests and achieve energy independence.

“If Turkey and our possible buyers in other countries are interested, we could consider building another gas pipeline system and creating a gas hub in Turkey for sales to third countries, especially, of course, the European ones, if they are interested in this, of course,” Putin said during a meeting on the sidelines of the sixth summit of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence-building Measures in Asia (CICA), held in the Kazakh capital of Astana on October 13.

Putin had also previously stated that Russia could shift gas transit from the Nord Stream to the Black Sea region and to Turkey. Turkish Energy and Natural Resources Minister Fatih Donmez commented that the proposal was technically possible and should be studied in detail.

Referring to the possibility of creating a new gas centre, Putin said that this could calmly regulate energy prices “without any political considerations.” This would allow the regularisation of prices “at a normal market level” as current prices, according to him, are exorbitant.

Likewise, gas pumping to Turkey is at full capacity, Putin assured, stressing that the country has proven to be the most reliable partner.

For his part, the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitri Peskov, confirmed that the presidents of Russia and Turkey ordered a detailed and very rapid study of the possibility of creating a gas hub. This is especially important as it is recalled that on October 10, the Russian president announced in an operational meeting with members of the Security Council that Kiev tried to blow up a section of the TurkStream gas transportation system.

This attempt is already preceded by the apparent attack on the Nord Stream pipelines on September 26. Scenes of huge plumes of gas rising to the sea surface near the Danish island of Bornholm became famous all over the world. As Russia is exposed to terrorism, as seen with the attack on Kerch Bridge, building a gas hub in Turkey will help secure Moscow’s energy interests. In turn, Turkey will be further consolidated as an energy hub when considering it is already a crossroads of pipelines.

The Russian and Turkish presidents also discussed the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, which is also the first nuclear project in the world based on the Build-Own-Operate model. The construction of the first power unit with Rosatom started in April 2018, the second in April 2020, the third in March 2021 and the fourth in July 2022.

Russia has effectively become an indispensable partner of Turkey, which is desperately seeking much more energy independence. None-the-less, there was still a lack of public excitement in Turkey by the gas hub proposal made by Putin, likely due to the expected US reaction to a new Russian gas route running through a NATO country.

The US essentially forced Europe, especially Germany, to find alternative markets. Europe, which normally procures 40 percent of its gas from Russia, reduced the figure to 20 percent after the wave of sanctions that were imposed. The EU are now in talks with Qatar and Azerbaijan to be alternatives to Russian imports, but it appears that Turkey could also become a third party in delivering Russian gas to Europe.

Turkey has maintained that it will not participate in the sanctions imposed on Moscow by the US and EU due to its dependency on Russian gas. This is coupled with the fact that Turkey is a major travel destination for millions of Russian tourists. None-the-less, Erdogan understands that his close relationship with Russia has limits as Turkey is a NATO member.

With Turkey already locked-out of the F-35 fighter jet program for acquiring the S-400 missile defence system from Russia and is now unable to secure US Congressional approval for F-16 updates, Erdogan may want to avoid another major crisis in its relations with Washington and Brussels.

For this reason, Turkey is immensely interested in becoming a hub for Russian gas, but for now will not be boastful about it. Although Turkey is unlikely to leave or be kicked out of NATO, it does understand that the world system is changing to multipolarity and is now attempting to position itself as a country with its own sphere of influence which connects east with the west. By achieving greater energy independence and connectivity, Turkey can work towards this goal.

Russia Offers To Transform Turkey Into Gas HubSouth Front

when are Putin and Erdogan going to get a room?

I think if a country wants to change the name of places, then it's their choice & the public should accept & respect that. So from now on, I'll call it Turkiye (I don't have the umlaut).

I haven't asked my local shawarma seller on what he thinks of the change. He's Turkish & has been selling shawarma for ~20 years. His stall sold the original "shawarma rice" then other sellers (Filipinos) copied the idea. His initial product was the shawarma (wrap).

It's similar to what India did for Mumbai (Bombay), Kolkata (Calcutta), etc. After some initial resistance (from foreigners), Mumbai is now generally known as Mumbai.

“ It also pointed out the Cambridge English Dictionary's definition of one of the meanings of the word as "something that fails badly" or "a stupid or silly person".


A bit sensitive, are they not?

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Turkey and Russia have instructed their respective energy authorities to immediately begin technical studies on a Russian proposal that would turn Turkey into a gas hub for Europe


ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday that Turkey and Russia have instructed their respective energy authorities to immediately begin technical work on a Russian proposal that would turn Turkey into a gas hub for Europe.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has floated the idea of exporting more gas through the TurkStream gas pipeline running beneath the Black Sea to Turkey after gas deliveries to Germany through the Baltic Sea’s Nord Stream pipeline were halted.

Erdogan said Russian and Turkish energy authorities would work together to designate the best location for a gas distribution center, adding that Turkey’s Thrace region, bordering Greece and Bulgaria, appeared to be the best spot.

“Together with Mr. Putin, we have instructed our Ministry of Energy and Natural Resources and the relevant institution on the Russian side to work together,” Erdogan was quoted as saying. “They will conduct this study. Wherever the most appropriate place is, we will hopefully establish this distribution center there.”

“There will be no waiting,” Erdogan said in his first statement on the Russian proposal.

FULL- '''No waiting''': Turkey, Russia to act on Putin'''s gas hub offer - ABC News

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Originally Posted by sabang

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Originally Posted by katie23

So from now on, I'll call it Turkiye (I don't have the umlaut).

If writing without the umlaut, shouldn't Türkiye become Tuerkiye?

Originally Posted by Troy

If writing without the umlaut, shouldn't Türkiye become Tuerkiye?

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No the Turkish character is older than German

During the letter revolution Atatürk chose Latin alphabet which is very easy and fixing to Turkish alphabet. Therefore we borrowed some letters from German alphabet.
You will find old Turkic letters blelow. As you can see u and ü already exist.


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