Tough break for Thai tourism Into thinner air Russian aviation's reduced scope

**david44** · 08-03-2022, 01:03 PM

Mods I cannot locate Air news thread please feel free to move the search function is dud.

Bad News again for Thai tourism

The following are barred from EU UK N America etc

Aeroflot
Pegas
Yumal
Rossiya I usd once only, never again
S7 a Siberian outfit that used to serve Bangkok
Red Wings Airline
Nordwind
Yakutia

They all stuffed as they all lease planes from largest leasing group, some will be grounded, sequestered and doubtful insureable beyond Russia.

Aer Cap an Irish firm

They may mothball but worth no routes to NATO and no spare parts looks like minted Muscovites holidays will be Napyidaw, Belgrade places or the delights of the N Korean Riviera, VAradero or Caracas comrades.

‘No better than North Korea’: Russian aviation faces wipeout

Russians are facing a future with little or no international air travel amid the ostracisation of its aviation sector.

Russia's aviation sector is facing crippling international isolation following Moscow's invasion of Ukraine [File: Maxim Shemetov/Reuters]By David Hughes
Published On 8 Mar 20228 Mar 202Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has resulted in its airlines being banned from European, American and Canadian airspace, left the country with leased aircraft it cannot use, and scuttled aerospace industry partnerships with the West.

Russian citizens won’t be flying to Europe or North America anytime soon, with even flights to friendly countries such as China in doubt due to the international community’s ostracisation of the country’s aviation sector, according to aviation analysts.

“Russia will be the world’s largest country with a developed economy and an aviation industry no better than North Korea’s,” Richard Aboulafia, managing director of Michigan-based AeroDynamic Advisory, told Al Jazeera.
“Aviation sanctions are easy to enforce,” said Aboulafia, who has more than 30 years of experience in the aviation industry. “Airlines can’t fly. They will have to completely redo their aircraft plans, which at the moment, are built on Western technology.”
Eurocontrol reports that 300 flights a day by Russian carriers to Europe and 50 flights a day by European airlines to Russian airports have been suspended. Russia has retaliated with reciprocal restrictions against any country that has banned its flights.
“It will get progressively harder for Russians to travel for two reasons,” Sash Tusa, an aerospace and defence analyst for Agency Partners LLP in London, told Al Jazeera. “One is that Russian airspace is closed to Western aircraft. In addition, international travel becomes extremely difficult as support for Western-built airline aircraft in Russia is withdrawn.”

Boeing and Airbus have cut off Russian airlines from access to spare parts for their planes [File: Simon Dawson/Bloomberg]Boeing and Airbus, Russia’s main suppliers of commercial aircraft, have cut off Russian airlines from access to spare parts for their planes. Boeing has also shut a design centre it operated in Moscow and temporarily closed its office in Kyiv.
It could be weeks or months before airlines’ supplies of spare parts run out. Airlines could prolong operations by grounding some aircraft and cannibalising them for spare parts to use on the planes that are still flying, although such practices are prohibited under the terms of the leases that cover commercial aircraft.
Like most commercial aircraft today, Russian airlines’ planes are largely owned by leasing companies in the West. Under European sanctions, leasing companies have until March 28 to terminate their contracts with Russian carriers. Several leasing firms, including Ireland-based AerCap, the world’s No.1 player, have confirmed that they have written to their Russian customers seeking the return of their aircraft.
Ulick McEvaddy, the founder of aircraft leasing company Omega Air, has described the task of recovering hundreds of aircraft from Russia at such short notice as “mission impossible” due to the possibility of legal challenges and the ban on Russian aircraft flying in European airspace.
The Cape Town Convention designed to prevent an airline from absconding with an aircraft has not been tested in court since it was signed in 2001. Three out of every four passenger and cargo jets in Russian service today are from Boeing or Airbus, which supply more than 300 aircraft each. Only 136 Russian-made jets are operating with Russian airlines, according to data from Cirium, an aviation analytics company.
“What are the odds they can be repossessed?” Aboulafia said.
How long Russian aviation remains in the doldrums will not only depend on how long the war in Ukraine lasts, but also the time it takes for the Russian state to be rehabilitated in the eyes of the West.
Tusa predicts the rupture in relations between Russia and the West will last years, describing it as “more serious than others in the post-war period”.
Aboulalfia said the war in Ukraine may also make customers for Russian-made military aircraft, such as India — the biggest buyer of MiG and Sukhoi fighter jets — think twice about buying more.
Tolerance for risk

Safety concerns are also likely to hamper Russian aviation going forward.
Henry Wilkinson, the founder of London-based security and intelligence company Dragonfly, said he has been receiving a deluge of inquiries from airlines since the war in Ukraine began.
In 2014, Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by a Russian-made Buk missile while flying over a part of eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russian rebels, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board. The tragedy is likely to be top of mind for airlines flying in Europe during the crisis.
“The information they need from us depends on the airline,” Wilkinson told Al Jazeera.
“Airlines have different tolerances for risk and also get different levels of information. US airlines are obviously very well supported by the FAA, but airlines in other countries don’t get a lot of information from their local government agencies. Airlines are currently trying to find corridors linking Europe to Asia that are safe and efficient.”
Airlines generally are giving a wide berth to Russian and Ukrainian airspace. Flights from Europe to Asia that would normally pass over Ukraine and Russia have been diverted south to the skies over Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan.
Eurocontrol, the agency that guides air traffic policy in the European Union, has reported significant disruptions to major routes. Flights between Frankfurt and Beijing are now two hours longer than before, with flights between Helsinki and Tokyo taking up to five additional hours.
Stephen Furlong, a senior equity analyst with Davy Capital Markets in Dublin, Ireland, said European airlines have so far not been overly affected by the disruptions.
“Before the Ukraine crisis, Lufthansa only had about two percent of its flights to Russia and less than one percent to China and Japan,” Furlong told Al Jazeera, explaining that European airlines had yet to add back many flights to Asia that were cancelled during the pandemic.

**david44** · 09-03-2022, 05:56 AM

All Air Travel To Russia Will Soon Be ENDED As Aircraft Leasing Companies Begin To Seize Planes

Air travel to and from the Russian Federation may be a thing of the past for most, at least temporarily, as aircraft-leasing companies begin to seize aircraft o

Air travel to and from the Russian Federation may be a thing of the past for most, at least temporarily, as aircraft-leasing companies begin to seize aircraft on international flights.
This will undoubtable negative effect Boeing and Airbus as order flow will decrease from Moscow.
Those who are still in Russia have little time left to decide whether they will leave. The Western sanctions imposed on Russian airlines mean there will soon be few planes left able to fly (most of the aircraft used by Russian airlines are Airbus or Boeing and are leased from European Union countries, or insured by European companies). Russia’s Federal Agency for Air Transport said Saturday it was recommending all Russian airlines halt international flights because there was a growing risk that their planes would be seized when abroad. By Tuesday, the only way to leave Russia by air is likely to be on foreign carriers like Turkish Airlines that continue to operate in Russia, wrote Russian independent news outlet The Bell.
The Caucasus seem to be the main destination at the moment for those feeling the Russian Federation.
Many other Western corporations are leaving Russia or looking for other options.
The list of Western companies that are leaving Russia grows by the hour: from electronics company Samsung, to Swedish furniture-maker IKEA, accommodation site Airbnb and oil giants BP, Exxon Mobil and Shell. In many cases, there is unlikely to be a sale — the company’s offices, or manufacturing facilities will simply be liquidated. Aware of the risks of mass redundancies this poses, Russia has threatened foreign companies with what amounts to nationalization. The government said in a statement that foreign companies looking for an exit have three options, added The Bell.

Re-think and remain in Russia.
Allow foreign shareholders to handover their assets to Russian partners, which means they could, at some point in the future, return to the Russian market. Some investors have already chosen this option, according to Kremlin aide Andrei Belousov.
Complete their shutdown and fire all their employees — but the Russian authorities will treat this as ‘deliberate bankruptcy’ (thus giving them the right to intervene to save jobs). Criminal prosecutions in cases of ‘deliberate bankruptcy’ are also possible.

Russian Invasion Ukraine War

**harrybarracuda** · 09-03-2022, 09:57 AM

Puts more pressure on the General to stop this ThailandPass nonsense.

Good.

**panama hat** · 09-03-2022, 10:21 AM

Russia can always buy Chinese aircraft to replace Boing and Airbus . . . and can pay directly with oil and gas. Problem solved. (Until they fu@k each other up eventually)

**david44** · 09-03-2022, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

can always buy Chinese aircraft

This true , but where will they be able to go?
While Biznis and Mafia types may have deals to to do in N Korea China I guess average Joe wants his fortnight where all the Russians go Greece, Turkey , Rimini and France.Not sure if Baku or Teheran can really rival Canns, Nice and the evergreen choices of all discerning International Men of Mystery , Bournemouth, Bognor. and Blackpool

Also going to remove their yachts from Monaco as only airports nearby in EU unless they can get in on Helipads. I imagine N Cyprus may let em in or their friends in Syria,,,,,,,,nice fortnight relaxing in a bomb crater near Latakia in case of premature evacuation, or perhaps Basra, or the sandpits of cheap whores and rancid natives the UAE, the self filling sewer that never shuts.

I expect Thailand with so many whores and so few punters will beckon that its crevices are open, but certainly not zero dollar fumblings.

Perhaps the wobblies won't block em until Zuck turns of Facebook there

**Seekingasylum** · 09-03-2022, 11:03 AM

The filthy rat faced tyrant Putin and his sycophants are uninsurable. No insurance, no fly. The money grubbing Asians should sanction all Russian travel or face sanctions themselves. In this war between civilisation and Russian infestation there can be no neutrals. The fuckers have no money anyway and are reliant in Thailand on dollars and baht they bought years ago. Xi is increasingly looking like a cvunt for his support of Putin and is distancing the Chink commies from him.

Putin can't have a shit now without worrying about which of his sycophants is going to turn on him.

And it don't matter if he crushes UKR, the West will isolate him for years to come.

Russkis are fuckd.

**david44** · 09-03-2022, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

And it don't matter if he crushes UKR, the West will isolate him for years to come.

Russkis are fuckd.

I think your on to something

Of course if a cornered Putin pushes the button he may take us all with him.

Of course living in unheated shacks, surrounded by feral dogs and bitches, shitting in a hole , eating bugs and roadkill with the last of the nice Garlic Tabasco, that nice Irishman left may not be such a change for some.

**Seekingasylum** · 09-03-2022, 11:48 AM

And just how do you think a dog like Putin, so scared shitless he catches Covid, will commit nuclear suicide? The Russki FSB/High Command will kill him b4 his tendril-like finger got near the button.

**david44** · 09-03-2022, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

will kill him b4 his tendril-like finger got near the button.

You may indeed have more experience of digital probing.

I magine here it'll be the slow nuclear winter giving time to finish the lime marmelade before cancers work.

I'd guess EU it'll be those awful decisions, a final shag, leap over teh bar and grab an optic or finally come out at Old Trafford dressed in Spandex

Shalom

Remember after a couple of years all those wrinkly old Neo Cons will emerge from their bunkers looking for fresh meat , so there's hope for Pattaya and the rest of us we can hold out that long.

In the ww2 red army there were commissars executing soldiers who refused to obey orders ,I don't imagine SfB much different.

I suppose it'll be like all long sandwich debates , the final solution of sub commanders.

**Seekingasylum** · 09-03-2022, 12:06 PM

Oh, stop your pussy whipped whining, we spent 30 years under the threat of Communist nuclear war and survived. They are full of shit, and the Chinks will fuck 'm first - no West, no China.

Anyway, the picture you portray is no worse than an afternoon in Merthyr Tydfil. Grow a pair, and stop your bleating.

**harrybarracuda** · 09-03-2022, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Russia can always buy Chinese aircraft to replace Boing and Airbus . . . and can pay directly with oil and gas. Problem solved. (Until they fu@k each other up eventually)

Makes you wonder what happened to the Russian "Superjet"

*titter*

**sabang** · 10-03-2022, 06:49 PM

To the rescue-

Kinda predictable really.

**harrybarracuda** · 10-03-2022, 10:15 PM

Poor old Vlad, now the chinkies will be able to spy on every transaction. And we know what thieving c u n t s they are.

**misskit** · 10-03-2022, 11:13 PM

I can’t imagine that alliance working out well.

**Switch** · 11-03-2022, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

I can’t imagine that alliance working out well.

Union Pay does not have the reach to satisfy the Russian mafia, never mind the poor proles!

**sabang** · 11-03-2022, 06:57 AM

Well, their reach just got a lot bigger. CIPS too.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-03-2022, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Switch

Union Pay does not have the reach to satisfy the Russian mafia, never mind the poor proles!

The Russians bought whole banks in Cyprus who were Visa members, because it's a good way to launder money.

**sabang** · 11-03-2022, 10:21 AM

I know for a fact they are some extremely lucrative customers of the City of London. Well, were.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-03-2022, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

I know for a fact they are some extremely lucrative customers of the City of London. Well, were.

Yes, well they need somewhere to deposit that money when it's laundered. In football clubs for example.

**panama hat** · 12-03-2022, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

I know for a fact they are some extremely lucrative customers of the City of London

A fact hitherto unknown to all but the most mysterious insiders . . . London, you say? Really???

**DrWilly** · 12-03-2022, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

A fact hitherto unknown to all but the most mysterious insiders . . . London, you say? Really???

He’s a tiresome name dropping pansy trying to relive the glory days… of banking in HK.

**panama hat** · 12-03-2022, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by DrWilly

He’s a tiresome name dropping pansy trying to relive the glory days… of banking in HK.

Ah, he hasn't mentioned that in the last few posts.. HK, you say? Banking, really? Only to be replaced by . . .

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