Thread: Trump Protesters Storm Capitol. DC on lockdown

Now, another 2 months a good protection, what can happen to beloved Congressman and Congresswomen?
Why not to invite the contractor who had built the Green Zone in Baghdad?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Now, another 2 months a good protection, what can happen to beloved Congressman and Congresswomen?
Why not to invite the contractor who had built the Green Zone in Baghdad?

You pissed cujo off with that comment. He takes his anti trumpism seriously

Originally Posted by Backspin

You pissed cujo off with that comment. He takes his anti trumpism seriously

He may once I figure out wtf he's trying to say.

FBI posts photo of person who placed suspected pipe bombs outside DNC, RNC
U.S. Capitol Police confirmed that the devices could have caused "great harm."

FBI posts photo of person who placed suspected pipe bombs outside DNC, RNC - ABC News

(seeing nice footages on many TV news, sometime he/she is looking towards CCTV cameras, passing a hotel - quite strange...)

New Oath Keeper defendant cooperating against others in major January 6 conspiracy case


A member of the Oath Keepers has cut a plea deal with prosecutors and is testifying secretly against others in the right-wing group, according to a criminal case unsealed Wednesday in Washington, DC.


The newly public case is the latest known move by the Justice Department to prosecute the extremist group for planning the January 6 attack on Congress.


Mark Grods is set to plead guilty to two charges -- conspiracy and obstruction of Congress' certification of the electoral college.


He plans to admit to taking part in paramilitary training efforts before January 6 and recruiting people to come to DC and join together for the siege.

Grods and others brought firearms, combat outfits, helmets and radio equipment for the siege, according to the charging document.


Grods also plans to admit to allegations that he stormed the Capitol with others, taking part in the military-style "stack" formation used by the Oath Keepers to cut through the crowd, while carrying a "large stick," according to his court record.


Grods' plea deal was filed in court confidentially on Monday and made public Wednesday morning. The secrecy would "ensure the defendant's safety while he cooperates pursuant to his plea agreement and testifies before the grand jury," a court filing from the Justice Department said.


Grods is set to appear before a judge in DC federal court at 2 p.m. ET Wednesday.
CNN has reached out to Grod's lawyer for comment.


Grods stayed at the Mayflower Hotel while in DC, though he had handed off guns to another person to keep at a hotel in Virginia, his charging document says.


Prosecutors have accused several Oath Keeper defendants of coordinating what they called a "Quick Reaction Force" -- by storing an arsenal across the river from DC in Virginia that could be brought in as backup if needed during the pro-Trump push to block Congress's certification of the 2020 election results.


Grods also rode in a pair of golf carts to get to the Capitol quickly, swerving around law enforcement, during the siege, his charging document says.
Grods was not charged previously in the sprawling conspiracy case against the Oath Keepers prosecutors have aggressively pursued.


In recent weeks, the Justice Department flipped one of the conspiracy co-defendants against the Oath Keepers in a plea deal secured last week -- a major step forward in the 16-defendant case -- and also gained a cooperator who had long-term ties to the organization and attended the January 6 riot.


Other Oath Keepers charged in the Capitol riot cases have pleaded not guilty.


New Oath Keeper defendant cooperating against others in major January 6 conspiracy case - CNNPolitics

Originally Posted by misskit

has cut a plea deal

"a plea deal"...
It reminds me something many hundred years back we all had read about...

One of them is planning on running for office. Trouble is trumpanzees are as thick as shit....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

One of them is planning on running for office. Trouble is trumpanzees are as thick as shit....

Typical Trumpanzee. Relative of deeks?

'QAnon Shaman' in plea negotiations after mental health diagnosis -lawyer

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The participant in the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riots nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" is negotiating a possible plea deal with prosecutors, after prison psychologists found he suffers from a variety of mental illnesses, his attorney said.


In an interview, defense lawyer Albert Watkins said that officials at the federal Bureau of Prisons, or BOP, have diagnosed his client Jacob Chansley with transient schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety.


The BOP's findings, which have not yet been made public, suggest Chansley's mental condition deteriorated due to the stress of being held in solitary confinement at a jail in Alexandria, Virginia, Watkins said.


"As he spent more time in solitary confinement ... the decline in his acuity was noticeable, even to an untrained eye," Watkins said in an interview on Thursday.


He said Chansley's 2006 mental health records from his time in the U.S. Navy show a similar diagnosis to the BOP's.


A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office declined to comment on the case.


Chansley is one of the most recognizable of the hundreds of Donald Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol after the then-president in a fiery speech falsely claimed that his November election defeat was the result of fraud.

Chansley, of Arizona, was photographed inside the Capitol wearing a horned headdress, shirtless and heavily tattooed. He is a supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theory that casts Trump as a savior figure and elite Democrats as a cabal of Satanist pedophiles and cannibals.


He faces charges including civil disorder and obstructing an official proceeding.


Watkins did not say what Chansley was considering pleading guilty to, but defendants negotiating plea deals typically seek to plead to a less serious charge to reduce their potential prison sentences.


Watkins said authorities will need to determine how Chansley can get access to the treatment he needs to "actively participate in his own defense." Pleading guilty to a charge negates the need for a trial, but defendants still have to be declared mentally competent to do so.


Watkins said the BOP's evaluation of his client did not declare Chansley to be mentally incompetent, and he does not expect Chansley to be ordered to undergo what is known as competency restoration treatment.


'CHOCOLATE SOUP MESS'


Watkins said his client has expressed some delusions including "believing that he was indeed related directly to Jesus and Buddha."


"What we've done is we've taken a guy who is unarmed, harmless, peaceful ... with a pre-existing mental vulnerability of significance, and we've rendered him a chocolate soup mess," Watkins said.


Federal prosecutors have arrested more than 535 people on charges of taking part in the violence, which saw rioters battle police, smash windows and send members of Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence running for safety.


About 20 defendants so far have pleaded guilty to federal charges in connection with the attack, according to a government tally.


Chansley is jailed as he awaits trial, after prosecutors convinced a federal judge he remains a danger if released.


U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth in May ordered him to undergo a competency evaluation.


As of July 5, he was one of 188 men and women undergoing an initial mental health evaluation to determine if they are competent to stand trial, according to BOP data.


The BOP in 2017 was faulted by the Justice Department's inspector general for its use of special housing units to confine inmates with mental illness, and the BOP agreed to place limits on the amount of time inmates remain in restrictive housing and to ensure they have meaningful human contact.


But the COVID-19 pandemic led the BOP to step up its use of solitary housing units as a way to quarantine inmates to contain the spread of the virus.


A BOP spokeswoman said that inmates are sometimes held alone in a cell, but they are not cut off from human contact or services.


"While we do have a need to place individuals in a single cell for various reasons, such as medical isolation, they have access to staff and programming," she said.


These COVID-19 restrictions, Watkins said, is what led the BOP to place Chansley in solitary confinement.


Seeking a competency evaluation for a federal inmate can be a slippery slope for defense attorneys.


On the one hand, incompetent defendants cannot be prosecuted if they cannot understand the charges or assist in their defense.


However, if a judge declares there is a preponderance of evidence to show a defendant is incompetent to stand trial, then the defendant is jailed because federal law requires inmates undergoing competency restoration treatment to be committed to a federal prison hospital.


There are only three federal prison hospitals offering restoration treatment for male inmates, and the average wait time for a bed this year for men has been 84 days, according to BOP data.


Exclusive-'QAnon Shaman' in plea negotiations after mental health diagnosis -lawyer

Is it true that the FBI boss confirmed that no weapons were found at the people?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Is it true that the FBI boss confirmed that no weapons were found at the people?

Snip: The U.S. Department of Justice has charged at least three people on gun charges stemming from the Jan. 6 riot, including one whom prosecutors said Metro police found carrying a loaded handgun with an extra magazine.

Fact check: FBI says bureau didn't recover guns at Capitol riot


Read the above link.

prison psychologists found he suffers from a variety of mental illnesses

Well that's a fucking surprise.

^It seems to be compliqué. When I google, this is what I get:

The Federal Bureau of Investigations recovered no gun. The guns which were found were found by other law inforcement agencies than the FBI, like the DC Metro Police. The DOJ prosecutes.

Not complicated at all.

The USA has many different branches of federal, state and local law enforcement. They are not all a centralized force like Thailand’s police.

As I said, it's compliqué. I thought that the FBI is the most competent agency for investigation, as it is in its name "I"...
And it is known that the DC Metro Police did not do much to avoid such event.

Anyway, wondering that not so many firearms found in such a huge crowd when it's normal that the American people carry a weapon every day once leaving their house, same as I do not leave house without pocket knife in my trousers - not for any defence, just having something on help with opening some packages....

All firearms carried in DC must be registered in DC.

I doubt that a lot of the ...protesters were from DC

And you are not allowed to carry around the White House, The Mall etc

Googled

^So, it seems that the FBI - and its boss - is not properly informed...Or is he overruled by the Capitol guards?
Anyway, it's compliqué..

Originally Posted by Klondyke

it's compliqué..

it's not complicated, stop waffling.

And so it begins

Former Trump administration officials can testify to Congress about Donald Trump’s role in the deadly January attack on the Capitol and his efforts to subvert the results of the 2020 election, the justice department (DoJ) has said in a letter obtained by the Guardian.


The move by the justice department to decline to assert executive privilege for Trump’s acting attorney general, Jeffrey Rosen, clears the path for other top former officials to also testify to congressional committees investigating the Capitol attack without fear of repercussions.


The justice department authorised witnesses to appear specifically before the two committees. But a DoJ official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters, said they expected that approval to extend to the 6 January select committee that began proceedings on Tuesday.


Bennie Thompson, the chairman of the House select committee, told the Guardian in a recent interview that he would investigate both Trump and anyone who communicated with the former president on 6 January, raising the prospect of depositions with an array of Trump officials.


Rosen and Trump administration witnesses can give “unrestricted testimony” to the Senate judiciary and House oversight committees, which are scrutinising the attempt by the Trump White House to stop Congress certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election win, the letter said.

Trump officials can testify to Congress about his role in Capitol attack, DoJ says | US Capitol attack | The Guardian

Makes me sick

Just reading this story. So many of these people seem to teeter on the edge of mental illness if not full on bonkers. All they needed was Trump egging them on.


Capitol riot arrest of restaurant owner rattles hometown

KANE, Pa. (AP) — A crank caller ordered an “insurrection pizza” from Pauline Bauer’s restaurant. A profane piece of hate mail addressed her as a domestic terrorist. She even became a punchline for Stephen Colbert’s late-night talk show on CBS.


A swift backlash greeted Capitol riot suspects like Bauer when they returned to their homes across the U.S. after joining the mob that stormed past police barricades, smashed windows and disrupted the certification of Joe Biden’s presidential victory on Jan. 6. Relatives, friends or co-workers reported scores of them to the FBI. Some lost jobs. Others lost their freedom, jailed awaiting trials.

MORE Capitol riot arrest of restaurant owner rattles hometown

Originally Posted by misskit

So many of these people seem to teeter on the edge of mental illness if not full on bonkers. All they needed was Trump egging them on.

Human nature Kit. Ass hurt, for various reasons, nutters found a super nutter to lead them.

I was impressed (actually depressed) when seeing not only a honorable member weeping but also the brave officers...

Two embarrassments trying to get some TV time be creating controversy. I can see you would like this. These kind of people would be your friends. They operate the same way. Contrary to what normal decent people would do. Still clinging to blatant lies.

Lets have a look who they were going to visit.