Thread: US warning allies to ditch Huawei, Chinese "spying" equipment

^The offer to all was made years ago, more an more countries are recognising an alternative to the dead empire north of Mexico.

China to grant 5G commercial-use licenses




Photo taken on June 3, 2019 shows a 5G device made by Huawei in Beijing, capital of China. China will soon grant 5G licenses for commercial use, the country's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology said Monday. (Xinhua/Jin Liangkuai)


BEIJING, June 3 (Xinhua) -- China will soon grant 5G licenses for commercial use, the country's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) said Monday.

China's 5G industry has built a competitive edge by combining independent innovation and open cooperation, the MIIT said, adding that 5G standards are unified international standards jointly established by global industry players and China now owns more than 30 percent of the standard essential patents for the technology.

Foreign enterprises including Nokia, Ericsson, Qualcomm and Intel have been deeply involved in the experiment of the technologies, and China's 5G is ready for commercial use thanks to the joint efforts from various parties, according to the MIIT.

China, as always, welcomes enterprises at home and abroad to actively participate in the building, application and promotion of its 5G network and share the sector's development dividends, the MIIT said.

China to grant 5G commercial-use licenses - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Unfortunately telecom operators are only interested in making money and not in the security or privacy of their customers.

So their opinion really doesn't count. That's why they have to be regulated.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That's why they have to be regulated

"Regulations" hints at those companies being "government" controlled. Surely not in the milk and honey world of the exceptional countries.

Of course some regulations can be described as "good" for the citizens and others of course not.

Depending on the desires of the political representatives/parties commercial sponsors.

Acting U.S. Budget Chief Seeks Reprieve on Huawei Ban
Russell Vought, in letter to Pence and Congress, says U.S. companies need time to adjust to the restrictions

By Dan Strumpf
Updated June 10, 2019 2:21 a.m. ET

The White House’s acting budget chief is pushing for a delay in implementing key provisions of a law that restricts the U.S. government’s business with Huawei Technologies Co., citing the burdens on U.S. companies that use its technology.

The request was made in a letter by Russell T. Vought, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, to Vice President Mike Pence and nine members of Congress, a copy of which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

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Originally Posted by OhOh

"Regulations" hints at those companies being "government" controlled.

It doesn't "hint" at it it, it implies it.

For example, if Wall Street had been properly regulated, they would never have been able to create and sell toxic debt and bring down the global economy.

As your failed example illustrates, not very well thought out/applied/enforced "regulations".

Originally Posted by OhOh

As your failed example illustrates, not very well thought out/applied/enforced "regulations".

My example is what happens when you let industries decide what is good for them rather than what is good for the general populous.

E.g. it is not good to let Telcos go installing Huawei spying equipment willy nilly just because it's cheap Chinese shit.

From what I've read, as I profess no expertise in Telcos, the Huawei 5G has a back door that could be exploited by the Chinese govt. The Chinese have already figured in Data theft from many countries and their military rhetoric is ramping up with their economic power. They have swallowed Tibet and have threatened Taiwan, as well as gradually diluted the Hong Kong agreement Plus their claims and aggressive stance in the South China sea, almost impinging on other countries borders and far from their own coastline, demonstrates that this totalitarian govt with no controls at all from the populace cannot be trusted. That is not to say whatever 5G system is used, that countries govt may seek to use a back door.
In the end it gets down to who would you rather have sneaking in the back door?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

From what I've read, as I profess no expertise in Telcos, the Huawei 5G has a back door that could be exploited by the Chinese govt.

Wrong.

Originally Posted by lom

Wrong.

They have already been caught enabling backdoors on their kit, and when caught, they "fixed" it. They claimed they needed access to "configure the devices remotely".

Yeah, right, if I have a problem with my Internet it probably needs Huawei to come in and configure my modem.




The fucking chinkies have been stealing IP for years so it's odds on that all of their shit has other back doors in.

What ever the reason for the Huawei ban, it certainly is impacting it's business.

"Huawei Cuts 20-30% From Smartphone Shipment Forecast"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoff.../#1ddfd2365be8

Originally Posted by Norton

it certainly is impacting it's business.

You may find, if interested, that most phone manufacturers are suggesting a slowdown in sales forecasts.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

hacked by yhe NSA/Pentagon or hacked by the Chinese

NSA hacking is a proven thing.

Chinese hacking by a government agency is only a "highly likely" suggestion. No proof has been presented by anybody, no court in any country has convicted any Chinese telecom company for hacking.

'arrys open port for "support/maintenance" by hardware suppliers continues to be common through out the IT industry and hence another red herring. Only western countries telecoms suppliers have been found to extract, analyse and utilise for illegal purposes the open port route.

Only in goldilocks mind has it occurred. But as in many areas of goldilocks mind he has, he is and will continue to be, proven wrong.

Or do you have any court judgements, for Chinese government hacking, to quote?

Hahahaaa the chinky sycophant bleats again.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Hahahaaa the chinky sycophant bleats again.

Proof 'arry, put up or shut up.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Proof 'arry, put up or shut up.

Oh scroll up and look at the car copies you dumbarse.

FFS do you think they smuggled out actual paper blueprints?

You fuckwit.

Originally Posted by OhOh

You may find, if interested, that most phone manufacturers are suggesting a slowdown in sales forecasts.

Yes but nothing approaching 20 to 30%. 3 to 5%.

Disgusting fucking chinkies. They should keep them at home.

Ugh! Chinese tourist urinates on floor of Airport Link train

Originally Posted by Norton

"Huawei Cuts 20-30% From Smartphone Shipment Forecast"

keyword Shipment..
Domestic market is as huge as their population is, ie very huge
̶N̶S̶A̶ Google will not go under because of lost license fees but US semiconductor mfgrs will take a hit.
I don't think this US export restriction will last long.

Originally Posted by Norton

What ever the reason for the Huawei ban, it certainly is impacting it's business.

"Huawei Cuts 20-30% From Smartphone Shipment Forecast"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoff.../#1ddfd2365be8

It's making a dent in their supply chain as well - much of which is in the US.

Silly baldy orange cunto, clueless fucker he is.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Silly baldy orange cunto, clueless fucker he is.

I guess big industry (and farmers) will make sure that he won't get a second period.

he's a child who's only capable of thinking about the near term reaction/results/consequences.

^ As are many of the voters.