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I think it's possible it came via the daughter but unwittingly. Perhaps she gave him a gift that was laced with some poison/nerve agent but I doubt she knew it otherwise she'd be not only kiling her father but committing suicide too. Perhaps the gift was a gift from somebody else and given via the daughter, or perhaps it was a gift from the daughter but the gift had been tampered with by someone else without her knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
...or perhaps aliens delivered the nerve gas via thought transmissions...I expect an RT report imminently...
as usually, a valuable comment that does not disappoint your fan club...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
...RT-inspired comment supports alien nerve gas theory!...Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
They get the marching orders directly from their dear leader don't ya know. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
UPDATE: Salisbury investigation
News • Mar 28, 2018 20:19 BST
"Deputy Assistant Commissioner Dean Haydon, Senior National Coordinator for Counter Terrorism Policing said: “At this point in our investigation, we believe the Skripals first came into contact with the nerve agent from their front door. We are therefore focusing much of our efforts in and around their address. Those living in the Skripals’ neighbourhood can expect to see officers carrying out searches as part of this but I want to reassure them that the risk remains low and our searches are precautionary."
Was this what our gallant Detective Sargent, "employed " at a neighbouring police force, was trying to clean off when he visited the house? After confirming to MI* that the two victims had succumbed to poison?
Did he get some on his own body, necessitation his quick trip to the hospital, where he was "cured" in a day or so?
Was he "cured" because he knew what the poison was and could inform the doctor, allowing Porton Down to quickly despatch the antidote, enabling the doctor to save his life?
Nerve agent kills within minutes of skin contact. Not a couple of hours later.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
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Novichoks were designed to be more toxic than other chemical weapons, so some versions would begin to take effect rapidly - in the order of 30 seconds ...
An arcticle which lays out exactly the relationship between the UK Gov. Porton Down, Ukranie Gov. and ameristan Gov. continuing in"assiting each other" by experimenting with various chemical and biological weapons of mass detruction on animals and humans.
Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program at Porton Down
Posted on March 28, 2018Natural Health News
"The Pentagon has spent at least $70 million on military experiments involving tests with deadly viruses and chemical agents at Porton Down – the UK military laboratory near the city of Salisbury. The secretive biological and chemical research facility is located just 13 km from where on 4th March former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found slumped on a bench following an alleged Novichok nerve agent poisoning."
Innumerable contracts, secret agreements, government orders, reports ...
https://www.naturalblaze.com/2018/03...n-program.html
A selection:
Utilising the London Underground System for "research".
"2013 DSTL, ANL, LBNL, BNL Dft (UK), DHS5 PFTs, SF6 Urea London Underground Liquid aerosol droplet, lack of sensitivity/specificity
https://data.gov.uk/data/contracts-finder-archive/contract/261565/
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Env%20Assessment%2C%20DHS%20S%26T%2C%20NYC%20Subwa y%20UTR.PDF
Testing VX gas optained from Syria by OPCW.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4991253/
ameristani contracts with Porton Down.
https://govtribe.com/contract/award/...0%3B100&page=2
https://govtribe.com/contract/idv/hdtra112d0003
https://govtribe.com/project/ukdstl-...n-and-exchange
https://govtribe.com/contract/idv/hdtra112d0003
Experimental respiratory anthrax infection in the common marmoset (Callithrix jacchus) similar with Ebola. Interesting that the male victim had these types of animals at his home.
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11019&stc=1
Guinea pigs were found in the house of the poisoned ex-spy in Salisbury, just a few kilometers away from Porton Down, where such guinea pigs were used for nerve agent chemical tests.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3607144/
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/212/suppl_2/S336/2194364
Porton Down: Animal Experiments:Written question - 43677 - UK Parliamenthttps://www.gov.uk/government/upload...2017-04492.pdf
ameristani collusion with Ukraine in the CW area.
https://2001-2009.state.gov/documents/organization/95251.pdf
.......... and on and on and on. Not a clean hand to be found. I suspect others have similar unknown agreements.
But hopefully all known by OPCW and recorded there one presumes.
One wonders how a governments leader could suggest that there is only one sources of an "unknown" chemical weapon and accuse a country of an act of war.
...to date, the wonderers are in a vanishing minority, dearest rtOhOh...Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Take it up with the Met.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Some highly educated, trained to act and perform in an emergency, and yet appear to be very gullible. It takes training to stand up with a straight face and lie, all for a few more moments to breath. Well, that's what he was promised by his mistress.
But understanding facts ..........:)
Numbers of countries?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
Numbers of worlds leaders?
Population of the world?
GDP of countries?
Numbers of votes from inhabitants of illegal overseas military bases - damn you got me on that one.
Numbers of civilians killed in wars, that were judged by government officials to be "worth it" - damn you got me on that one, too.
Gold bars in their vaults?
Numbers of voters agreeing with them?
...............
Or maybe you have alternate methods of determining a minority. Please share.
When did you start enjoying being emotionally abused?
:chitown:
...ftfy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
A drop of nerve agent, the size of a pinhead, will kill a buffalo in 4 minutes. The shit reportedly used in this story has killed nobody, as yet. One person, policeman, has recovered miraculously. And yet this agent, in this case, has been found all over the place, from the Ruskies house, their cars aircon, the restaurants etc and seems to have been liberally used. If all this was/is true there should be people dying in their thousands being as nerve agent can be wind spread. This story is bullshit.
Of course it is mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Any opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
The Kiwis are beached as bro,With Western countries tossing out Russian spies or if they are not sure,just bad Russian drivers connected to their embassies,
the Kiwis weren't able to find any spies,bit sad for world standings bragging rights.
Wait for all the fish dying in the river and the rooks waiting on the telephone wires.
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11034&stc=1
Fortunately the Skripals front door has been guarded by a Chemical Weapons expert wearing protective gear, oh wait.....Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11036&stc=1
Chinese comment:
Russian diplomat expulsions signal crude side of Western intention
The West is only a small fraction of the world and is nowhere near the global representative it once thought it was. The silenced minorities within the international community need to realize this and prove just how deep their understanding is of such a realization by proving it to the world through action. With the Skripal case, the general public does not know the truth, and the British government has yet to provide a shred of evidence justifying their allegations against Russia.
It is firmly believed that accusations levied by one country to another that are not the end results of a thorough and professional investigation should not be encouraged. Simultaneously expelling diplomats is a form of uncivilized behavior that needs to be abolished immediately.
Russian diplomat expulsions signal crude side of Western intention - Global Times
...:rofl:...Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
The daughter is now said to be conscious, so how is this possible?
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conventional nerve agent antidotes may not work.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/14/1...soning-englandQuote:
At the right doses, nerve agents can kill within five to 15 minutes, says chemical weapons expert Mark Bishop at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey. But the Novichok agents are thought to be even more dangerous and deadly; Mirzayanov claimsthat Novichok-5, for example, can be five to eight times more potent than VX.So the fact that the Skripals are still alive means that “it must have been low dose, or impure, or not administered in a really efficient way,” Bishop tells The Verge. “Because it doesn’t take very much of a nerve agent to be fatal.”
Treating Novichok poisoning is also “practically impossible,”according to the Handbook of Toxicology of Chemical Warfare Agents. For other nerve agents, the treatment is usually diazepam or Valium to stave off seizures, and atropine, which helps dry up the secretions that could choke or drown a nerve gas victim, Chai tells The Verge. That buys a little time for another drug called pralidoxime, or 2-PAM, to prevent the nerve agent from permanently shutting off that key enzyme. But Novichok agents might have more ways of harming people, according to the Handbook: “Consequently, conventional nerve agent antidotes may not work.”
“IT DOESN’T TAKE VERY MUCH OF A NERVE AGENT TO BE FATAL.”
It’s surprising to see Novichok surface in 2018, not least because Russia was supposed to have destroyed its 39,967 metric tons of chemical weapons by September 2017, according to the international organization that oversees the chemical weapons ban. The British prime minister has demanded that Moscow release information about the Novichok program, so it’s possible that we could soon learn more about these nerve agents.
Bishop, however, says not to bet on it: “The Russians are really good at keeping secrets.”
As usually, you do not disappoint, a good comment...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
...wish I could say more, but your "sources" are a laugh a minute...Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
The irony is on you not TC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klondyke
Don't expect the mainstream media to question their own narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Opinion has been formed, the sheeple have been fed.. time for another crisis, next :chitown:
https://teakdoor.com/image/jpeg;base6...DsKyuO4H//2Q==
Kim Jong-nam was carrying 12 vials of nerve agent antidote when he got poisoned. Didn't help him did it?
Lots of different variants of nerve agent Pragmatic and different variants of Novichok. Have they found out how the agent was administered? It could have been a weaker variant in powder form.
I'm open minded, I doubt the girl will ever make a full recovery if it was a nerve agent. That doesn't mean she won't be fit enough to leave hospital just that she'll have permanent damage to the nervous system.
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11063&stc=1
Grey skies, leafless trees, 1.0 L mini saloon, grubby brick along with plastic doors and windows.
How do people live in such conditions
Whatever the "source" is, the mathematics is correct, isn't it? "The West is only a small fraction of the world".Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcat
What do "your sources" say?
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2018/03/39.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
You can see inside the house here (link below) - as it was before Skripal lived there. Bought for 260,000 in 2011.
House Price History
And Google street map view (link below). It looks OK. Nothing grand, but OK.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.07...7i13312!8i6656
Indeed you have and the sheer volume of bogus RT links you have crammed into this thread is proof of it. You are easily conned by your little puppet master in the Kremlin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
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Originally Posted by Troy
Some are suggesting she was able to talk. Unfortunately Salisbury NHS Trust Hospital has no Russian speakers thus her deathbed confession has been lost forever. They have plenty of Polish speakers, thought to be a similar Eastern language, but the multilingual cleaning staff were on their tea break at the time. The NHS tried to arrange "top secret clearance" to enable the cleaners access to the near death patient but the MI6 computers were down due to Russian hacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Back to how to cook a fried egg with some ageing fat woman who has the correct accent, breeds dogs that squeak when thrown into the Aga and enjoys the rough and tumble available at Hickstead in our glorious 2 week summer season.
Reinforcements are now guarding the alleged crime scene.
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=11064&stc=1
"Meanwhile the police have placed cordons round a children's play area at Montgomery Gardens near Mr Skripal's home." [It's actually 25 miles away but "near" is close enough eh?]
Russian spy: Yulia Skripal 'conscious and talking' - BBC News
Reports of children experiencing burning sensations, skin rash and hiccups, after using the slide have increased nationwide in the last fortnight. All UK hospitals are calling for skin donors and used brown paper bags, as a desperate shortage has arisen.
Mr. Skripal's cleaner has been barred from the house after trying to steal gold bars and a hard drive. The gold bars were allegedly promised to the 17 year old Asian cleaner for services provided during the last few months. The hard drive contains videos of consensual sex between an elderly white male and a terrified, bound, gagged and hooked up to an electrically powered pump of some description, Asian woman. Met police are trying to find the people indulging in what the BBC believe are illegal violent actions.
Russian consular staff still await permission to visit a Russian citizen, abducted without her consent, to an unknown destination, by a notorious UK clique, who relies on power by bribing influential citizens.
Actually it is very near. Montgomery Gardens is the name of a road off Christie Miller Road (where Skripal lives).Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2018/03/45.jpg
"Who pays an exceptional stipend", you missed that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
Not like the unexceptional leaders who bend you aver and abuse you until you cannot amuse them anymore.
Irrespective of what nerve agent variant it was they're all treated basically the same The latest claim is that the agent was in gel form and smeared on the Ruskie's front door handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
And before OhOh claims there is no children's play area in Montgomery Gardens in Salisbury ...
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2018/03/40.jpg
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.07...7i13312!8i6656
You're so easily taken in, nev.
That is clearly a listening post for MI5.
The equipment is not even three dimensional.
Notice how the shadow of the swings is on the left, but the shadows on the right of the pic. are on the right of the equipment.
I'm calling doctored pic.
^ Yep. Good call. The picture clearly shows a play area transposed into Google maps by MI5/MI6. The original play area "actually" comes from the House of Commons play area. If you look closely you can just about make out Theresa May's name written on the slide and Boris Johnson's on the swings.
That’s frightening, £260,000 for a semi detached former council house. Thatcher has a lot to answer for. She should be dug up and shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna