Thread: British MP Jo Cox in critical condition after attack in Birstall, police say

Originally Posted by Conche

he was a loon who should have been in a secure unit

never know who's walking the streets since Thatcher closed the Mental wards and put them on the street relying on care in the community.
Seems every time he did some gardening he would scrub his face and hands red raw with a stiff brush.
Probably never took his meds.
Shot 2or3 times and stabbed. Still alive when taken to hospital but died soon after.
Mother of 2 kids.

Rather than pandering to the media's hysterical speculation, this seems far more circumspect:

The murderer DID NOT shout 'Britain First', a number of eyewitnesses quoted by the media have said on twitter that the media have made this up. The murderer was on psychotropic drugs, was mentally ill, and according to witnesses was in an altercation with somebody else when Jo Cox tried to intervene and got killed. According to his neighbours, the murderer had NO political affiliation, he belonged to NO political group, he was not the slightest bit interested in politics.

Fear of loons...You just never know...

RIP, young woman...Horrific for her...

What will security be like now?...

Originally Posted by JayZee

Rather than pandering to the media's hysterical speculation, this seems far more circumspect:

The murderer DID NOT shout 'Britain First', a number of eyewitnesses quoted by the media have said on twitter that the media have made this up. The murderer was on psychotropic drugs, was mentally ill, and according to witnesses was in an altercation with somebody else when Jo Cox tried to intervene and got killed. According to his neighbours, the murderer had NO political affiliation, he belonged to NO political group, he was not the slightest bit interested in politics.

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Jo Cox dead: Suspect linked to hard-right group that has campaigned against the EU



The man arrested over the killing of Labour MP Jo Cox is believed to have had long-term links with a hard-right group based in London which had been campaigning for many years for Britain to leave the European Union.

Thomas Mair was named as a supporter in an online publication of the Springbok Club, an organisation which has defended the white supremacist apartheid regime in South Africa.

Witnesses to the fatal attack on Ms Cox say they heard Mair shout “Britain First” as the MP was shot and then stabbed. The organisation Britain First, which was founded by former members of the British National Party, has denied that Mair was associated with it and say they condemn the killing.

The link between Mair and the Springbok Club goes back ten years when its online magazine, the Springbok Cyber Newsletter, was inquiring about the whereabouts of “Thomas Mair, from Batley in Yorkshire [who] was one of the earliest subscribers and supporters of “S.A. Patriot” who has moved from his address in the Fieldhead Estate district of the town.”

The leading article for June 2016 Springbok Cyber Newsletter, which describes itself on its website as being pro-free market capitalism and patriotism and anti-political correctness, was, however, devoted to Britain and the referendum. It started: “On Thursday, 23rd June 2016 all British voters will have the opportunity to vote on the future of their country. They can vote either to remain entrapped in the artificial and retrograde European Union, or to regain their sovereign independence....”

more Jo Cox dead: Suspect linked to hard-right group that has campaigned against the EU | People | News | The Independent

RÌP at 41. Killed by simple deranged hatred. Sad indeed.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

simple deranged hatred

That pretty much sums up the Britain First crowd to me.

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Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

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Originally Posted by Begbie

I hope you're joking.

First reports are that the attacker was a neo nazi.

BBC reporting his first name was Tommy, oh the irony.

I can almost feel my Grandfather turning in his grave.

It's official people, the world has gone mad.

And his surname sounds Irish..

You really are stuck in the past, aren't you? By the way, Mair is a Welsh name, not that it matters other than to highlight your ignorance.

Don't blame the Welsh Bob! They've had a hard day today

FYI

Mair is a surname in the Scots, German and Yiddish languages, deriving from Latin maior. Notable people with the surname include:

People with the surname Mair in Scots context
Adam Mair (born 1979), Canadian ice hockey player
Charles Mair, Canadian poet, son of Scottish immigrants
Earnest Mair, Australian rugby league football coach
Eddie Mair, Scottish television and radio presenter
Gilbert Mair (trader) (1799 – 1857), sailor and trader in New Zealand
Lee Mair (born 1980), Scottish footballer
Norman Mair, Scottish rugby player and analyst
Rafe Mair, Canadian political commentator
Robert Mair, Master of Jesus College, Cambridge
Sarah Mair (1846–1941), Scottish campaigner for women's suffrage and education
William Mair ( –1897), politician in South Australia
People with the surname Mair in German context
Paulus Hector Mair (1517-1579), Augsburg civil servant
Michael Mair (born 1962), Italian skier
Victor H. Mair, American Professor of Chinese Language and Literature
Wolfgang Mair (born 1980), Austrian footballer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mair_(surname)

Who's the ignorant one?

The suspect is Scotch ,born in Kilmarnock ,Scotland .

British politics is the poorer for the loss of this wonderful and extremely popular Member of Parliament...

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

RÌP at 41. Killed by simple deranged hatred. Sad indeed.

Cut down in the flower of life ,but it just goes to show even if the UK has very austere gun laws ,if you have the money, buying an illegal firearm is baby's work .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

but it just goes to show even if the UK has very austere gun laws ,if you have the money, buying an illegal firearm is baby's work

Utter nonsense:

What the fatal attack on British politician Jo Cox says about guns in the UK - World - NZ Herald News

Originally Posted by Bower

A rather special young lady has been assassinated by a British terrorist.
It's very sad.
My sympathies to her family.

Terrorist??? according to his neighbours to guy was quite friendly and even mowed lawns for people , crack pot killer Aye but terrorist!! get a grip .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

according to his neighbours to guy was quite friendly and even mowed lawns for people , crack pot killer Aye but terrorist!! get a grip

Yeah, his skin definitely isn't brown enough to be a terrorist.

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Comment on Guardian UK off Twitter apparently ...

RIP... by all accounts she was a lovely, kind young lady.

It's been a very bad week (news wise)..

Very sad indeed.. the world is getting a little more mad and crazy each passing year.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

but it just goes to show even if the UK has very austere gun laws ,if you have the money, buying an illegal firearm is baby's work

Utter nonsense:

What the fatal attack on British politician Jo Cox says about guns in the UK - World - NZ Herald News

Lets be honest ant what is stopping anyone from loading a lorry up in Eastern Europe laden with AK-47's and RPG's? Then stuffing a few pockets to ensure passage into the schengen zone, from there is is pretty easy to smuggle weapons into the UK. It is pretty naive to think that this has not been done already.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

but it just goes to show even if the UK has very austere gun laws ,if you have the money, buying an illegal firearm is baby's work

Utter nonsense:

What the fatal attack on British politician Jo Cox says about guns in the UK - World - NZ Herald News

Lets be honest ant what is stopping anyone from loading a lorry up in Eastern Europe laden with AK-47's and RPG's? Then stuffing a few pockets to ensure passage into the schengen zone, from there is is pretty easy to smuggle weapons into the UK. It is pretty naive to think that this has not been done already.

Most East European countries are in the Schengen zone already. The UK is not, you can't just walk across the border into the UK as what they probably didn't teach you at school is that Great Britain is an island with border controls.

Originally Posted by bsnub

from there is is pretty easy to smuggle weapons into the UK

But it's not, that's the point of the article.

The UK isn't within the Schengen zone and geographically - being an island - the boarder controls are a lot tighter.

[Edit: ^ what he said basically]

Perfect PR for the Remain camp.

Originally Posted by Lostandfound

Perfect PR for the Remain camp.

I see a labour party member is already trying to make political capital out of the tragedy , have they no respect for the deceased family and loved ones? Labour MP Neil Coyle faces backlash after criticising Leave EU on Newsnight | Daily Mail Online

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

but it just goes to show even if the UK has very austere gun laws ,if you have the money, buying an illegal firearm is baby's work

Utter nonsense:

What the fatal attack on British politician Jo Cox says about guns in the UK - World - NZ Herald News

Lets be honest ant what is stopping anyone from loading a lorry up in Eastern Europe laden with AK-47's and RPG's? Then stuffing a few pockets to ensure passage into the schengen zone, from there is is pretty easy to smuggle weapons into the UK. It is pretty naive to think that this has not been done already.

Most East European countries are in the Schengen zone already. The UK is not, you can't just walk across the border into the UK as what they probably didn't teach you at school is that Great Britain is an island with border controls.

You can sail across just as easily. Read the first sentence of this report - the largest haul ever detected, and the headline, largest known. There is virtually nobody and nothing keeping an eye on all of the thousands of small boats bobbing about on the channel on any given day.

They were caught only because of a tip off.

UK gang bought guns from same shop as Charlie Hebdo terrorists
Five people face long jail sentences for smuggling largest haul of automatic weapons ever taken by police on the UK mainland

Thursday 21 April 2016 18.54 BST Last modified on Friday 22 April 2016 19.33 BST

A British crime gang bought the largest haul of automatic weapons ever detected by police on the UK mainland from the same source in eastern Europe as terrorists behind the Paris attacks of January 2015, it can be revealed.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ling-operation

Yeah but he repeatedly stabbed her with a 12 inch Hunting knife too, how do you stop Knives ? especially bearing in mind that knife crime is now rampant in the UK , as for the sawn off shot gun there is not much doubt it was illegal , as he was not long out of an Institution and was attending a special school ., and yeah ban all legal guns ,problem solved .

^ Interesting perspective...

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

but it just goes to show even if the UK has very austere gun laws ,if you have the money, buying an illegal firearm is baby's work

Utter nonsense:

What the fatal attack on British politician Jo Cox says about guns in the UK - World - NZ Herald News

Lets be honest ant what is stopping anyone from loading a lorry up in Eastern Europe laden with AK-47's and RPG's? Then stuffing a few pockets to ensure passage into the schengen zone, from there is is pretty easy to smuggle weapons into the UK. It is pretty naive to think that this has not been done already.

whilst it may be very difficult if not impossible to obtain a firearms licence legally in the uk, those who want a gun for illegal use have never found it easier to obtain one.

the country is well supplied with illegal arms from eastern europe and those of criminal intent will know exactly where to go, who to ask and what to pay for a quickly sourced weapon and ammunition.

they come into the country by sea and it is almost impossible to open and examine the contents of every container offloaded at uk ports.

Originally Posted by JayZee

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Comment on Guardian UK off Twitter apparently ...

Worthless then.