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    Your concern that the reputations of right wing hate groups should not be tarnished is touching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Only 13 years ago , as recent as that eh?
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    But a picture is emerging.
    Seems it started over 35 years ago. A social inadequate carrying around a festering racial hatred for all that time. Perhaps you think he killed her because she abstained on the military intervention in Syria vote?

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    Despite all the amusing ill thought out bluster I have yet to see any denial of the sad lonely bigot epithet?
    Do you accept it or did that go over your head as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle View Post
    Despite all the amusing ill thought out bluster I have yet to see any denial of the sad lonely bigot epithet?
    Do you accept it or did that go over your head as well?
    All I have said and will continue to say that as yet there is no cast iron conclusive evidence as to JUST WHY he cut down this young lady in the flower of her life ,leaving behind a greaving husband and family and all who knew her , and If by any chance you are of the opinion that I hold with such horrific happenings please dispel it from your thoughts , he might not even make a plea ,as some smart arsed Barrister getting mega bucks from the public purse might say he's too insane to make one , lets just wait and see cos as yet the picture is no were near finished .

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    The temporary chief constable for West Yorkshire Police, Dee Collins, reported in a statement that two medical specialists had examined Mair and determined that “he is both fit for detention and fit for interview” despite his prior use of mental health services.
    https://www.rt.com/uk/347225-jo-cox-...rgeted-attack/

    Legal aid in England and Wales: what is changing? | Law | The Guardian

    The budget for criminal legal aid is being cut by £215m, but this did not start to take effect until April 2014. The proposals prompted barristers to withdraw their labour for the first time in history.

    Good luck with your insanity plea.

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    And Newcky , Some thing else you should know in open and shut cases like this I have ALWAYS been in favour of Capital punishment , and cos he is plainly guilty of premeditated murder he should be given the ultimate penalty , the reason's why is no excuse , if its proved he's a headbanger he will spend the rest of his life in a secure unit costing the long suffering tax payer a kings ransom , like quite few before him .

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    You make a compelling case for euthanasia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle View Post
    The temporary chief constable for West Yorkshire Police, Dee Collins, reported in a statement that two medical specialists had examined Mair and determined that “he is both fit for detention and fit for interview” despite his prior use of mental health services.
    https://www.rt.com/uk/347225-jo-cox-...rgeted-attack/

    Legal aid in England and Wales: what is changing? | Law | The Guardian

    The budget for criminal legal aid is being cut by £215m, but this did not start to take effect until April 2014. The proposals prompted barristers to withdraw their labour for the first time in history.

    Good luck with your insanity plea.
    By that remark you must think I do not want him to get punished to the full extent of the law , IMHO they should string him up , if he's found Guilty of Murder 1 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    And Newcky , Some thing else you should know in open and shut cases like this I have ALWAYS been in favour of Capital punishment , and cos he is plainly guilty of premeditated murder he should be given the ultimate penalty , the reason's why is no excuse , if its proved he's a headbanger he will spend the rest of his life in a secure unit costing the long suffering tax payer a kings ransom , like quite few before him .
    If you are trying to prove how detached you are from reality, it's working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    it was a sawn off shotgun , he just hacked a foot of the barrels with a hack saw
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    How do you know?
    because he has done it heaps of times - and he watches macgyver - how hard can it be ?

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    My bet they will be trying very hard to get some form of terror link, to give motive.
    Otherwise he is just another care in the community off his meds nutter, plenty of them walking the streets.
    If that turns out to be the case, all the flag waving, photo opts etc were just spin, nutters are attacking people everyday and the government does nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    My bet they will be trying very hard to get some form of terror link, to give motive.
    Otherwise he is just another care in the community off his meds nutter, plenty of them walking the streets.
    If that turns out to be the case, all the flag waving, photo opts etc were just spin, nutters are attacking people everyday and the government does nothing.
    I'm not sure yet If its been established that he even knew that she was a Labour party MP in favour of Stay in the EU , least ways I have not seen any evidence as yet to prove he did .

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    I'm not sure yet If its been established that he even knew that she was a Labour party MP in favour of Stay in the EU , least ways I have not seen any evidence as yet to prove he did .
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    The only thing proven so far is your inability to read. Even the links you post to support your own agenda usually end up proving the opposite. This often happens to shallow illiterate racists like you. Why not pretend your feelings are hurt and retire disgracefully?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    I'm not sure yet If its been established that he even knew that she was a Labour party MP in favour of Stay in the EU , least ways I have not seen any evidence as yet to prove he did .
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    The only thing proven so far is your inability to read. Even the links you post to support your own agenda usually end up proving the opposite. This often happens to shallow illiterate racists like you. Why not pretend your feelings are hurt and retire disgracefully?
    In this particular case , Just what is the reason for you to call me a racist ? please put some flesh on the bones of your accusations , so far as far as I know the police have not claimed he knew that the Lady was a labour MP , if they have maybe you can provide the link .

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    The man accused of killing the Labour MP Jo Cox has appeared in court.
    Mrs Cox , 41, was shot and stabbed to death in Birstall, West Yorkshire, on Thursday.
    Thomas Mair told Westminster Magistrates' Court, "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain", when asked to confirm his name.

    Man in court over killing of MP Jo Cox - BBC News
    I would post pictures but life's too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgen View Post
    The man accused of killing the Labour MP Jo Cox has appeared in court.
    Mrs Cox , 41, was shot and stabbed to death in Birstall, West Yorkshire, on Thursday.
    Thomas Mair told Westminster Magistrates' Court, "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain", when asked to confirm his name.

    Man in court over killing of MP Jo Cox - BBC News
    Cheers Kurgen , that kinda proved he knew who the lady was, this was all I was asking, cos no one knew for sure until he attended court this morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    My bet they will be trying very hard to get some form of terror link, to give motive.
    Otherwise he is just another care in the community off his meds nutter, plenty of them walking the streets.
    If that turns out to be the case, all the flag waving, photo opts etc were just spin, nutters are attacking people everyday and the government does nothing.
    I'm not sure yet If its been established that he even knew that she was a Labour party MP in favour of Stay in the EU , least ways I have not seen any evidence as yet to prove he did .
    Hmm, interesting.

    So whenever a Moooslim is involved in any sort of crime, it's Islamic terrorism, when a militant nationalist assassinates a pro-EU Labour MP, he's just a nutter?

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    According to this breaking news CNN report , the police appear to have no evidence as yet why he targeted the MP CNN - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News

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    Yes let's not jump to conclusions.

    You hate that, eh?

    Perhaps the 'traitors' he was referring to were those who first allowed non - Yorkshireman to play cricket for Yorkshire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yes let's not jump to conclusions.

    You hate that, eh?

    Perhaps the 'traitors' he was referring to were those who first allowed non - Yorkshireman to play cricket for Yorkshire.

    I think its far more wiser to let our highly trained Police force prove what the killers motive was .

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    The killer was a member of the Britain First movement. The question isn't motive but whether he acted on his own.


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    Britain First really do have to answer this.

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    Until there is a lot more facts, calling this a terrorist act is jumping to conclusions, a lone person committing a crime is not an act of terror, in my opinion.
    Locked up a lot of crazy people, they hook on to something and the voices tell them what to do, if his guy had mental illness, acted alone and said the force was behind him, I am a Jedi, the terror part would have gone.

    Seems we are calling anything that attacks the system terror now, sometimes there are just nutty people., was John Hinckley Jr. a terrorist or just a nutjob,
    today he would be a terrorist.

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    If he was politically motivated, i.e. following an ideology such as the Britain First movement to assassinate a Pro-EU campaigner, then yes, it is terrorism.


    The United Kingdom's Terrorism Act 2000 defined terrorism as follows:
    (1) In this Act "terrorism" means the use or threat of action where:
    (a) the action falls within subsection (2),
    (b) the use or threat is designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public and
    (c) the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.

    (2) Action falls within this subsection if it:
    (a) involves serious violence against a person,
    (b) involves serious damage to property,
    (c) endangers a person's life, other than that of the person committing the action,
    (d) creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public or
    (e) is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.[57]

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