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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Lots of countries have benefited from basically not having to pump much money into defense since WWII while relying on the US to be their Robocop
    Nothing to do with it and saying other countries don't pump much into their military is simply silly, but often used.
    NO-ONE pumps even a fraction into it as the US because no-one wants to play world-cop, no-one else believes that should play world-cop, no-one thinks a world-cop should invade countries on a whim etc....

    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    Interesting that they invested wisely in general, partly because their post war obligations were made quite clear as part of their surrender.
    Quite correct. Germany and Japan had spending limits imposed upon them and restrictions in their respective constitution

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    The US didn't do that for the benefit of those countries.
    Of course not, it was control, pure and simple

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    Germans for the most part work hard, value craftsmanship as related to workers jobs, have a reasonably ordered society, etc.
    Yea, that sounds about right - add to it a worker and business friendly society as a whole and you have the result

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal
    The US didn't do that for the benefit of those countries.
    Of course not, it was control, pure and simple
    The nazi nuts needed controlling. Someone had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal
    Germans for the most part work hard, value craftsmanship as related to workers jobs, have a reasonably ordered society, etc.
    Yea, that sounds about right - add to it a worker and business friendly society as a whole and you have the result
    The Germans have an excellent welfare system and protection of workers rights. What many fail to realise is, they pay a much higher proportion of their salary in tax and welfare charges to support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal
    Germans for the most part work hard, value craftsmanship as related to workers jobs, have a reasonably ordered society, etc.
    Yea, that sounds about right - add to it a worker and business friendly society as a whole and you have the result
    The Germans have an excellent welfare system and protection of workers rights. What many fail to realise is, they pay a much higher proportion of their salary in tax and welfare charges to support it.
    That simply makes sense - in an emergency your taxes keep you safe and healthy.

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    So what is the best EU country to live in right now and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    So what is the best EU country to live in right now and why?
    To be honest you could pick any one of a dozen countries and call it the best. Mostly the northern countries are well organised, democratic and economically viable. I like parts of France, Germany and most of the scandinavian countries. You might prefer southern climates where the locals are sometimes friendly and sometimes not.
    As a generalisation you might want to try Portugal.
    Hope this helps

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    It does Chass when you are looking for an EU country to spend the summer. I prefer good weather, good food, a reasonable rent rate and a great history factor. Spain has been on my list, but that was purely from a weather and cost factor.

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