Its all about genetics environment and opportunity. Skin colour is irrelevant.
Its all about genetics environment and opportunity. Skin colour is irrelevant.
Is it just me or is there an irony in the intelligence gene being discovered by a university guy with a PhD?
If there are any left over, there are some TD members who deserve their missing gene.
As of March 15, 2016, I have 97Century Threads.
LC, don't be so cruel.
Try England.
Try readi.g the post in full Jim. Genetics is only one aspect of intelligence. When you give people the right environment and the opportunty, everyone has an equal cbance. IQ is a relatively modern, western social construct, with proven flaws.
Given equal opportunity and the right environment all humans can rise with the help of good genes.
Give women tbe same opportunity and freedoms enjoyed by patriarchal socities and tbey will prove my point.
Access to education is the key. Several posters on here are also evidence that a lack of education will hinder social and economic development.
No it's not, genes and DNA are the tell all blue prints for not only intelligence, but heath, life expectancy, hair, eye color, etc.Originally Posted by chassamui
The PC answer about environment, education, will not change a persons eye color, nor their intelligence level.
Using the PC argument, pigs, which have similar genes to humans, brought up and educated in a good environment, would become smart.
It's a simple fact, smarter races have Neanderthal DNA, those races evolved, races without that DNA didn't.
The truth is neither good or bad, it's just the truth, Africa, Australia, Tasmania [different Aboriginals] to main land and all the other black countries, not one built out of stone or discovered the wheel.
Our ancestors, white and Asian where building, learning independently of each other, all over the world.
So unless aliens educated us and provided the environment, we did it ourselves, but not one race without neanderthal DNA did.
Why do people deny that whites are without doubt the smartest race
Look at history it's the white mans fault that the world is completely fucked
So don't be embarrassed by your lovely pink skin or your superior intellect
You only have to work around the world to assure you that the world would stop without us
I find Indians and Pakistanies are good but require direction morning and last hour at work
Climate and environment has an influence. Maybe they didn't need stone dwellings or there was not enough stone around. Did they have stone tools.
Did they have agriculture or were simply hunter gatherers. Agriculture means one has time to sit and think!
Hot weather promotes tropical lassitude which I think we all encounter on a daily basis. Nothing to do with intelligence, even people suffering from it still have the intelligence to scam money from others by gambling, money lending etc..
Better to think inside the pub, than outside the box?
I apologize if any offence was caused. unless it was intended.
You people, you think I know feck nothing; I tell you: I know feck all
Those who cannot change their mind, cannot change anything.
Some very confused people on bere.
Of course environment and opportunity will determine your intellect and subsequent contribution to society. How could it not have any effect on pre-existing genetic traits?
Genetics are just the start point. Without good environmental conditions and the chance to be educated and introduced to new skills and ideas, no one would be capable of further development.
He fact that the US has a black president, and will probably elect a woman next, is all to do with environment, educaton and opportunity.
If they were born into a tribe in the rain forest., their environment and lack of opportunity would have condemned them, however smart they were.
If you accept that there is a genetic element to intelligence (which there almost certainly is) then some people have a more equal chance than others.Originally Posted by chassamui
We don't know enough about how intelligence works yet to be able to make categorical statements about equality.
It is very likely that individuals have varying intellectual potentials which are constrained by their genetics.
It may also be possible that the mean intelligence of races differs. We don't know how to measure intelligence potential directly from DNA or from the brain tissue/structure as it develops during childhood.
We can only measure it empirically using things like IQ tests but IQ and other empirical measurements are strongly influenced by education and other environmental factors (see the Flynn effect).
In the future we may be able to make direct genetic measurements of intelligence potential. It may turn out to be politically satisfying or it may not.
The US has not got a black president, his mother was white,which genes he inherited is a question.Originally Posted by chassamui
Find it hard to believe that people can believe that evolution can produce, blond haired, blue eyed vikings and black African Pygmies, but there is some divine intervention that means intelligence equal to all.
There were at least 3 humanoid types, probably more that evolved over time, the smarter ones sirviied.
In real terms, a superior race kills off it's competition, be it any of our alleged out of Africa cousins.
Darwin, survival of the fittest, world pulls out of Africa, less then a 100 years, they will be throwing spears again.
Reality, we evolved,tanks, aircraft, nukes and armies, nations and took over the world.
Non Neanderthal races stayed tribal, whether there DNA was the turning point is mute.
Originally Posted by BobR
maybe rather than believeing your own predujucies you should have a bit more of a look into the research behind the moronic headlinesOriginally Posted by Black Heart
it will stop you looking so fcuking stupid in future
expert reaction to genetics and GCSE achievement | Science Media Centre
Darren Griffin, Professor of Genetics at the University of Kent, said: “Genetics is the science of inheritance, not pre-determinism, and there is no substitute for hard work and application.”Prof. John Hardy, Professor of Neuroscience, UCL, said:
“Twin studies are a mainstay of behavioural genetics, but they make a simple assumption that is unlikely to be true: that is that we treat identical twins the same as we treat non-identical twins (who look much more different from each other).
“These results are interesting, therefore, but by no means definitive and it would be unwise to make educational decisions based on these data.”
Thos who are inrerested might want to google thr human genome project. Scientists now believe that some genetic pre-disposition is turned off in utero or in infancy.
The populations of Harvard and Detroit are subject to different genetic and environmental factors that produce misleading study material.
As globalisation and inter ethnic relations reduce ethnic purity the impact of any racial or ethnic influences will be negated. Lke dogs, our mongrel status will improve our survival chances.
So good education makes you a good lawyer and a parrot, E=mc squared was a clerk, intelligence, is not about learning, but thinking.Originally Posted by baldrick
An apple falling from a tree, made a man think, why.
Now look at which people asked that why question, that why question, was the difference, between a dead end evolutionary road and what we have today.
Personalty, don't think it was the apple that made the difference.
Is that because when they married that made you your own uncle?Originally Posted by Black Heart
You are comparing apples and oranges James. Dogs are just like humans. They interbreed and become stronger. You only need to look around here to see how successful and resilient they are.
You are right in that intelligence and education are different. No education simply means inherent intelligence is wasted.
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