Thread: Two terror suspects killed in Belgium 'jihadist-related' police raids

TWO terror suspects were killed in a police raid in Belgium this evening.

At least two people are thought to have died

The suspects were killed after opening fire on anti-terror officers in the city of Verviers.

Another suspect was detained by police after being wounded.

Eric Van Der Syot, a spokesman for the Belgian federal prosecutor, said: "The suspects immediately and for several minutes opened fire with military weaponry and handguns on the special units of the federal police before they were neutralised."

He added that the group was thought to have been on the brink of launching "terrorist attacks on a grand scale".

Explosions and gun shots were heard near the city's station, according to Belgian public broadcaster RTBF.

The channel said that there were no casualties among the security forces.

It is understood that the operation was one of several being carried out in relation to would-be jihadists returning from Syria.

Another official allegedly claimed the incident was "jihadist-related".

Belgian terror raids: Two suspects dead in police operation in Verviers | World | News | Daily Express

Witnesses described hearing three or four explosions and dozens of shots ringing out during the raid on an apartment above a bakery in Verviers in eastern Belgium.

So door kicked down, stun grenades in, and then the boys run in guns blazing? I wonder who the victims really were?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Witnesses described hearing three or four explosions and dozens of shots ringing out during the raid on an apartment above a bakery in Verviers in eastern Belgium.

So door kicked down, stun grenades in, and then the boys run in guns blazing? I wonder who the victims really were?

We'll never get the full and true story....

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Witnesses described hearing three or four explosions and dozens of shots ringing out during the raid on an apartment above a bakery in Verviers in eastern Belgium.

So door kicked down, stun grenades in, and then the boys run in guns blazing? I wonder who the victims really were?

We'll never get the full and true story....

Bet the Belgiums will get some lovely new laws soon though. Well, when I say lovely, I don't mean lovely / nice of course.

Why are these guys not getting a thorough "debrief" on their return from Syria?
Are they just being monitored and pounced on to add to the anti-islam sentiment?

In another development, the Pope said freedom of expression did not justify insulting another person’s faith

I guess he didn't bother with a "Je suis Charlie" sign or buy the latest copy of CH.

Originally Posted by Troy

Why are these guys not getting a thorough "debrief" on their return from Syria?
Are they just being monitored and pounced on to add to the anti-islam sentiment?

That's the question I've been asking.

A snip from BBC;

"The Belgian authorities say that the 10 anti-terrorist raids which took place around the country were all linked to suspects who had returned from fighting in Syria."

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Troy

Why are these guys not getting a thorough "debrief" on their return from Syria?
Are they just being monitored and pounced on to add to the anti-islam sentiment?

That's the question I've been asking.

May be they're allowed to get through for surveillance reasons?

That makes sense.

Originally Posted by Kurgen

Sky News

Owned by Murdoch who also is invested in Genie Energy which has an asset in Golan Heights, the illegally occupied by israel, Syrian land. That Sky? You expect Sky to show the clear picture instead of supporting the smashing of Syria to ensure murdoch keeps his grubby mitts on his luca?

Originally Posted by ENT

That's the question I've been asking.

Indeed. Could it be that they are more useful as "sleeper cells" in their home countries to be assassinated every time the establishment want to whip up some fear and hate?

^

Shouldn't we ask who stands to gain from these attacks, and how convenient it is!

Isn't it a bit like reading the end credits rather than paying attention to the story in between?

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Shouldn't we ask who stands to gain from these attacks, and how convenient it is!

Isn't it a bit like reading the end credits rather than paying attention to the story in between?

We should be expecting more of these incidents, and subsequent propaganda/manipulation, in the coming days or weeks.

It is all so perfectly timely and convenient.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Indeed. Could it be that they are more useful as "sleeper cells" in their home countries to be assassinated every time the establishment want to whip up some fear and hate?

Only a bobo would think that.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Shouldn't we ask who stands to gain from these attacks, and how convenient it is!

Isn't it a bit like reading the end credits rather than paying attention to the story in between?

We should be expecting more of these incidents, and subsequent propaganda/manipulation, in the coming days or weeks.

It is all so perfectly timely and convenient.

UK will get a portion of Home Terror soon. Cameron wants to push through his latest bills so they will need to let some nutter kill a load of innocents soon enough and the Paris one has not had the tremours in the UK that the media is claiming.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Indeed. Could it be that they are more useful as "sleeper cells" in their home countries to be assassinated every time the establishment want to whip up some fear and hate?

Only a bobo would think that.

So why don't they then? They know who they are, yet they let them wonder around without a care in the world. Why not debrief them?

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Shouldn't we ask who stands to gain from these attacks, and how convenient it is!

Isn't it a bit like reading the end credits rather than paying attention to the story in between?

We should be expecting more of these incidents, and subsequent propaganda/manipulation, in the coming days or weeks.

It is all so perfectly timely and convenient.

Of course, for jihadists and their bobos.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Indeed. Could it be that they are more useful as "sleeper cells" in their home countries to be assassinated every time the establishment want to whip up some fear and hate?

Only a bobo would think that.

So why don't they then? They know who they are, yet they let them wonder around without a care in the world. Why not debrief them?

Because all the bobos will cry "Human rights!"

Presumably fighting for ISIS in Syria can be considered a crime in those Countries that are fighting against them. The authorities know who they are and are obviously keeping tabs on them when they return. However, why wait for them to start plotting terrorist activities when they can be legitimately and quietly removed from society.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Indeed. Could it be that they are more useful as "sleeper cells" in their home countries to be assassinated every time the establishment want to whip up some fear and hate?

Only a bobo would think that.

So why don't they then? They know who they are, yet they let them wonder around without a care in the world. Why not debrief them?

Debrief is a very PC and out of place word in the situation, as you can't debrief an unwilling subject.

They need shrinking and isolation from other jihadis for any effective change to take place in their wired up and fired up psyche.

Best just to let them run around leaking info then grab/pre-empt them when they show signs of making a move.

Keeping tabs on them immediately on arrival is a sound policy, it allows for "enhanced" surveilance.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Why not debrief them?

even better, why not just quietly and secretly "disappear" them?

there will be plenty who will queue up for the task and who would really give a fuck.

cost about a couple of hundred quid a hit and think of the massive savings to be made on security, monitoring and protection that would be directed to nurses pay.

treat them as they would treat you, what could be fairer than that.

As Muslims, they should have no objections to the golden rule as also expressed in the Quran, "Wish for your brother, what you wish for yourself"

Originally Posted by taxexile

even better, why not just quietly and secretly "disappear" them?

there will be plenty who will queue up for the task and who would really give a fuck.

cost about a couple of hundred quid a hit and think of the massive savings to be made on security, monitoring and protection that would be directed to nurses pay.

treat them as they would treat you, what could be fairer than that.

Yes! That's a brilliant idea. IN fact anyone that the government says is a threat to society could be rounded up, put in camps, and quietly snuffed.

Wow - even better you could even try and trick them into doing some free labour work for big corporations prior to snuffing them, making them think that if they work hard enough they will be set free. Like on the gates and doors of the "Democracy Centers" you could write "Work Sets you Free" or something.



HMmmm seems like it has been done before.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by taxexile

even better, why not just quietly and secretly "disappear" them?

there will be plenty who will queue up for the task and who would really give a fuck.

cost about a couple of hundred quid a hit and think of the massive savings to be made on security, monitoring and protection that would be directed to nurses pay.

treat them as they would treat you, what could be fairer than that.

Yes! That's a brilliant idea. ......rounded up, put in camps, and quietly snuffed.

I think so too.