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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    But what if our religious types where to face a similar onslaught from Islamist's, demeaning their religions & prophets? ?
    You're kidding right?
    Have you been living under a rock?
    Unfortunately google is blocked and my VPN is playing up, but there are MANY examples of cartoons originating in the Islamic world insulting jews and Christians and blaspheming their god.

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    The bottom line -

    Abrahamic cultures are a true plague on the world.

    A pox on their collective houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    Nothing extraordinary about Western values.
    Nor Eastern ones.
    Indoctrinated perspectives will vary, of course.....


    Where exactly is this Eastern egalitarian utopia you keep alluding to Jeff?
    I looked and sure as shit can;t find it on a map. All I see is dictatorships and medaevil kingdoms.
    The indian PM says India had nukes and spaceships 6000 years ago, was it back then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    But what if our religious types where to face a similar onslaught from Islamist's, demeaning their religions & prophets? ?
    You're kidding right?
    Have you been living under a rock?
    Unfortunately google is blocked and my VPN is playing up, but there are MANY examples of cartoons originating in the Islamic world insulting jews and Christians and blaspheming their god.
    Indeed, and then this lot launched decades of war upon them


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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Yes, well known the benign tolerance and pacifism of Christianity and The West....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    The indian PM says India had nukes and spaceships 6000 years ago, was it back then?
    Recorded in the Mahabharata and the Mahayana, about 4,000 yrs ago or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    But what if our religious types where to face a similar onslaught from Islamist's, demeaning their religions & prophets? ?
    You're kidding right?
    Have you been living under a rock?
    Unfortunately google is blocked and my VPN is playing up, but there are MANY examples of cartoons originating in the Islamic world insulting jews and Christians and blaspheming their god.
    Indeed, and then this lot launched decades of war upon them

    Yep.....wars and projected militarism for JEEZUS/Western values, and in it's name, have been going on for ages. All apart of the civilizing missions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
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    But what if our religious types where to face a similar onslaught from Islamist's, demeaning their religions & prophets? ?
    You're kidding right?
    Have you been living under a rock?
    Unfortunately google is blocked and my VPN is playing up, but there are MANY examples of cartoons originating in the Islamic world insulting jews and Christians and blaspheming their god.
    Mainly anti-Semitic, but Xtianity isn't spared either.

    Arab papers regularly publish such without some crazy Jews or Xtians murdering their cartoonists or issuing fatwas against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Yep.....wars and projected militarism for JEEZUS/Western values, and in it's name, have been going on for ages. All apart of the civilizing missions.
    Just like in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    The indian PM says India had nukes and spaceships 6000 years ago, was it back then?
    Recorded in the Mahabharata and the Mahayana, about 4,000 yrs ago or so.
    That sounds intereating.
    Could you start a thread about it.

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    Oh hell....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
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    The indian PM says India had nukes and spaceships 6000 years ago, was it back then?
    Recorded in the Mahabharata and the Mahayana, about 4,000 yrs ago or so.
    That sounds intereating.
    Could you start a thread about it.
    It is quite fascinating, Cuj...

    There's a ton of material available for those who have the curiosity to imbibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Who created that right? Who gave you that right? What divine body makes your right to take the piss out of peoples beliefs more valid than someone elses right not to have their beliefs ridiculed?
    It is a democratic agreement among the people of western civilisations that religion is no longer above satire.

    Witness our own religion Christianity satirised and ridiculed in The Life of Brian for example.

    The preciousness with which religious beliefs and sensitivities used to be held and protected was a pernicious fault which progressive western values have now eschewed.

    I am very happy to be part of a society that has grown out of religious preciousness. No religion is above this satirisation and any religion that claims to be above the rules needs its face pushed in its own shit like a recalcitrant mut. That is why the quality of the humour in this case is not relevant.


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    Nothing extraordinary about Western values.
    So you agree that satirising Islam in western media is acceptable and Muslim extremists are in the wrong to retaliate with violence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    The indian PM says India had nukes and spaceships 6000 years ago, was it back then?
    Recorded in the Mahabharata and the Mahayana, about 4,000 yrs ago or so.
    That sounds intereating.
    Could you start a thread about it.
    It is quite fascinating, Cuj...

    There's a ton of material available for those who have the curiosity to imbibe.
    Tons of magic mushies too....

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    So what you're saying Looper is

    Racism when drawn by a cartoonist = Satire

    A funny caricature sanitises the odious concept being mooted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    So what you're saying Looper is

    Racism when drawn by a cartoonist = Satire

    A funny caricature sanitises the odious concept being mooted.
    Islam is not a race.

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    ^Jews manage to be both a race and a religion.

    Only a fool would try to justify that ranting on about 'stinking, Arab, Muzzie camel jockies' was not being racist just because the Islam element of the sentence relates to a religious description.

    A lot of anti-Muslim comment routinely factors in racist components to the insults. It has become co-mingled, something of a grey area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    So what you're saying Looper is Racism when drawn by a cartoonist = Satire A funny caricature sanitises the odious concept being mooted.
    Religion is not race. The cartoons in question were not very offensive. Quite gentle stuff really. The offence the extremists take is their 'prophet' being depicted graphically which is against their 'rules'. However, their rules do not apply to us. They need to understand this. If they want to protest they can do so in a civilised manner but it is not likely that we will be undoing our cultural progress to accomodate their sensitivities. Why should we?

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    ^^ So what?

    Islam is a religion.

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    Does God still bless America after a State of the Union address?...

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    As far as I am aware the Khmer Rouge were Buddhists but despite their teachings they still managed to slaughter nigh on 3 millions.

    So what is it with this obsession with Islam as a religion fostering conflict?

    We're nowhere near the Pol Pot figure yet and if you factor in the Jap butchery, Buddhists to a man too, then Islam has got one heck of a long way to go to even get within sniffing distance of the chickenheads penchant for mass slaughter. Nazis of course don't count since they cleaved to cult figures and Valhalla and Stalin just didn't bother.

    So, on past performance and current trends, taking into account the Thai penchant for killing each other, I reckon them Buddha boys are the worst over the past 100 years.

    Lighten up on Allah and give them Mohammedans a break.

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    ^President Rajapaksa of Sri Lanka too (voted out of office last week). Another Buddhist with blood on his hands.

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    More Muslims expressed support for this bloody savagery on social media. Clearly not all Muslims support jihad and sharia. But many millions of Muslims do. And yet we are prohibited from discussing that terrible and obvious truth.

    “Online Jihad Supporters Celebrate Attack On Headquarters Of French Satirical Weekly ‘Charlie Hebdo,” MEMRI

    Jihadists online celebrated today’s deadly shooting at the Paris headquarters of the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, which has satirized Islam and the Prophet Muhammad in some of its issues.[1] Participants on jihadi forums and social media praised the attackers, saying that the shooting was a legitimate act of revenge against the weekly for insulting Islam and against France for its crimes against Muslims.

    - See more at: Muslims Celebrate Attack On Headquarters Of French Satirical Weekly ?Charlie Hebdo? | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

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