Thread: Hostages held in siege in Martin Place, Sydney in lockdown

Originally Posted by Necron99

Tickertape says gunman has been ID'd and is known to police.

Which sorta says nothing and everything really.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Necron99

Tickertape says gunman has been ID'd and is known to police.

Which sorta says nothing and everything really.

I think it's positive. If he's "known to police" it may be more likely that he's a local nutcase rather than a terrorist. Also, if the cops have dealt with him before, that should help in predicting his likely behavior, knowing if the bomb threats are likely to be real, etc.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Necron99

Tickertape says gunman has been ID'd and is known to police.

Which sorta says nothing and everything really.

I think it's positive. If he's "known to police" it may be more likely that he's a local nutcase rather than a terrorist. Also, if the cops have dealt with him before, that should help in predicting his likely behavior, knowing if the bomb threats are likely to be real, etc.

I think it quite curious you seem to make the distinction between a nutcase and a terrorist. This is of course a cultural thing and probably more prevalent in the US than say in the UK. Although our government and police like the nomenclature most of us don't actually think of them as anything other than a bunch of twats.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I think it quite curious you seem to make the distinction between a nutcase and a terrorist. This is of course a cultural thing and probably more prevalent in the US than say in the UK. Although our government and police like the nomenclature most of us don't actually think of them as anything other than a bunch of twats.

I find it curious that you keep tarring me with the American cultural brush, when I haven't lived there in 40 years.

A terrorist has a goal. To blow up the place, kill everyone, become a martyr, send a message, etc.

A nutcase has voices in his head saying he's a bad puppy and mummy won't give him any sweets.

They generally act/react differently.

The problem is, these johnnies have no discernible aim, goal or objective other than the act of killing for its own sake because it is the right way to serve Allah.They are twats.

A politically motivated person resorting to terrorism to achieve an objective rooted in an established conflict is quite sane and has generally considered the effect of his actions viz PLO, IRA, Mau-Mau, Black Panthers, Chechens etc etc.

In the main, if not all, the so-called terrorists perpetrating their nonsense in the UK and in Australia are stupid, disaffected, incoherent or just plain addled twats.

Criminals really, but ' terrorists '?? Nah, just idiots, most of whom are frightened of what their mums will say when they get caught and banged up.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Necron99

Tickertape says gunman has been ID'd and is known to police.

Which sorta says nothing and everything really.

I think it's positive. If he's "known to police" it may be more likely that he's a local nutcase rather than a terrorist. Also, if the cops have dealt with him before, that should help in predicting his likely behavior, knowing if the bomb threats are likely to be real, etc.

Sydney is Muzzie central in Oz. There have been numerous and ongoing investigations and arrests for plots and IS funding/recruitment over the last few months. 2 were arrested in Sydney this morning.



^^ That's nice Willy, I'd be more impressed if all the Imams and Mullahs came down and offered to trade themselves for a hostage each.

Originally Posted by Necron99

^^ That's nice Willy, I'd be more impressed if all the Imams and Mullahs came down and offered to trade themselves for a hostage each.