Tough tax rules see expats ditch US passports

**Tarquin Chucklefucc** · 03-10-2014, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

But the 5th amendment to the US constitution says; " you cannot be forced to bear witness against yourself". So the very concept of filing a tax return is unconstitutional in its very nature. Also in adherence to the constitution there is no legal statute compelling anyone to file a tax return. The USA tax system is an amazing game of bluff and terror. If you refuse to comply the cant touch you, if you comply they terrorize you.

Excellent points

Amazing how the US hunts down their expats to pay for more bombs to drop on far-away brown people.

Glad I'm not from there.

**Necron99** · 03-10-2014, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tarquin Chucklefucc

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

But the 5th amendment to the US constitution says; " you cannot be forced to bear witness against yourself". So the very concept of filing a tax return is unconstitutional in its very nature. Also in adherence to the constitution there is no legal statute compelling anyone to file a tax return. The USA tax system is an amazing game of bluff and terror. If you refuse to comply the cant touch you, if you comply they terrorize you.

Excellent points

Amazing how the US hunts down their expats to pay for more bombs to drop on far-away brown people.

Glad I'm not from there.

They are not excellent, they are puerile.
You can use the same argument to say a kited cheque or other falsified document is against the constitution.
No one holds a gun to your head and "forces" you to fill in a tax return. You submit it voluntarily. If you happen to lie on it, more fool you.

**Cujo** · 03-10-2014, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

No one holds a gun to your head and "forces" you to fill in a tax return. You submit it voluntarily. If you happen to lie on it, more fool you.

And if you don't fill in a tax return what are the consequenses?

**BobR** · 04-10-2014, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Necron99

No one holds a gun to your head and "forces" you to fill in a tax return. You submit it voluntarily. If you happen to lie on it, more fool you.

And if you don't fill in a tax return what are the consequenses?

They won't renew your passport so you'll have to find another Country willing to sell you one or come home, and they will garnish any pensions or other income you receive from home.

But then I got the last laugh, instead of working 70 plus hours a week practicing law in Califonria, I've spent the last 7 years teaching English in Thailand for a whopping $800 a month; a move that has legitimately saved me hundreds of thousands of Dollars in taxes. My laziness has been rewarded.

**Tarquin Chucklefucc** · 03-10-2014, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by Tarquin Chucklefucc

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

But the 5th amendment to the US constitution says; " you cannot be forced to bear witness against yourself". So the very concept of filing a tax return is unconstitutional in its very nature. Also in adherence to the constitution there is no legal statute compelling anyone to file a tax return. The USA tax system is an amazing game of bluff and terror. If you refuse to comply the cant touch you, if you comply they terrorize you.

Excellent points

Amazing how the US hunts down their expats to pay for more bombs to drop on far-away brown people.

Glad I'm not from there.

You can use the same argument to say a kited cheque or other falsified document is against the constitution.

Very different matters I reckon.

Look at the chart below. When you pay taxes in the US you are ultimately contributing (to a huge extent) to supporting the horror the US military exports.

Not saying people would want that - but that's what the money goes on.

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