Thread: Happy Dancers in Iran get 6 months and 91 lashes.....Reportedly no longer "Happy"

Originally Posted by sabang

I believe the lashes are suspended too barb. I think it's a barbaric sentence anyway- I wonder what a Gogo dancer might get in Iran?

The article states that the prison term is suspended, and the article also says that dancers WILL receive 91 lashes, it doesnt say that the lashes will be suspended

And the US "helped" in the fall of Muhammad Mussadaq in 1953 (coup).

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Exactly the US helped in overthrowing the Shah and thus you have modern day Iran, as always with US foreign policy they meddle in others affairs and you end up with something ten times worse than before. How's Libya looking today?

Are you fucking mental or something?

The US helped overthrow the Shah?

Did you go to comprehensive school or something, because your history is fucking shite.

Private school thanks and my history is just fine thanks.

American and Internal Negotiations with the opposition[edit]

The Carter Administration increasingly became locked in a debate about continued support for the monarchy.[126] As early as November, ambassador William Sullivan sent a telegram to Carter ([126] the "Thinking the Unthinkable" telegram). The telegram effectively declared his belief that the Shah would not survive the protests, and that the US should consider withdrawing its support for his government and persuading the monarch to abdicate. The United States would then help assemble a coalition of pro-Western military officers, middle class professionals, and moderate clergy, with Khomeini installed as a Gandhi-like spiritual leader.[126]

The telegram touched off a vigorous debate in the American cabinet, with some (such as National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski [126]) rejecting it outright. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance rejected a military crackdown;[94] he and his supporters believed in the "moderate and progressive" intentions of Khomeini and his circle.[104][126]

Increasing contact was established with pro-Khomeini camp. Based on the revolutionaries responses, some American officials (especially Ambassador Sullivan) felt that Khomeini was genuinely intent on creating a democracy.[15] According to historian Abbas Milani, this resulted in the United States effectively helping to facilitate Khomeini's rise to power.[15]

Iranian Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So how's your history Harry?

The US helped overthrow the Shah in the same way they helped Ho Chi Minh overthrow the South Vietnamese Dictatorship......

Originally Posted by Necron99

The six Iranian singers who were arrested for appearing in a viral video dancing to Pharrell Williams’ song “Happy” have been sentenced to six months in prison and 91 lashes.
The group became famous in May when their music video for the hit song circulated on YouTube, racking up more than 150,000 views before attracting the attention of Iranian authorities.
It featured three men and three unveiled women singing and dancing along to the four minute song in the street and rooftops of Tehran, mimicking the style of Pharrell’s official video.
Authorities arrested the group for contravening Iran’s strict vulgarity laws, which prohibit public displays of dancing, and paraded the six on state television, forcing them to express remorse for their behaviour.
The Islamic Republic condemned the video as a “vulgar clip which hurt public chastity” and in a trial on Wednesday sentenced the participants to a suspended sentence of six months in prison.

I dont think that they would have danced with joy outside the court room after the sentences

Originally Posted by sabang

^ so what? It's some shiite festival- most urban & middle classed Iranians think it's a bit weird too, the lengths some of these religious people go to. Would you prefer it with real blood? Funny they don't get 90 lashes (suspended) though.

"Prefer it with real blood"?

Are you taking the piss?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Exactly the US helped in overthrowing the Shah and thus you have modern day Iran, as always with US foreign policy they meddle in others affairs and you end up with something ten times worse than before. How's Libya looking today?

Are you fucking mental or something?

The US helped overthrow the Shah?

Did you go to comprehensive school or something, because your history is fucking shite.

Private school thanks and my history is just fine thanks.

American and Internal Negotiations with the opposition[edit]

The Carter Administration increasingly became locked in a debate about continued support for the monarchy.[126] As early as November, ambassador William Sullivan sent a telegram to Carter ([126] the "Thinking the Unthinkable" telegram). The telegram effectively declared his belief that the Shah would not survive the protests, and that the US should consider withdrawing its support for his government and persuading the monarch to abdicate. The United States would then help assemble a coalition of pro-Western military officers, middle class professionals, and moderate clergy, with Khomeini installed as a Gandhi-like spiritual leader.[126]

The telegram touched off a vigorous debate in the American cabinet, with some (such as National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski [126]) rejecting it outright. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance rejected a military crackdown;[94] he and his supporters believed in the "moderate and progressive" intentions of Khomeini and his circle.[104][126]

Increasing contact was established with pro-Khomeini camp. Based on the revolutionaries responses, some American officials (especially Ambassador Sullivan) felt that Khomeini was genuinely intent on creating a democracy.[15] According to historian Abbas Milani, this resulted in the United States effectively helping to facilitate Khomeini's rise to power.[15]

Iranian Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So how's your history Harry?

Excellent mate.

There is a huge difference between not supporting someone who is facing violent protests and, as it was stated, "helping to overthrow the Shah".

The only action the US could have taken to prop up the regime would have been to send their own troops in there.

They certainly didn't help overthrow him, and they would much rather he would have stayed, not least because he was a good customer.

1979: Shah of Iran flees into exile
The Shah of Iran has fled the country following months of increasingly violent protests against his regime.

<snip>

Western governments, like the US, UK and West Germany, have continued to express support for the Shah.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2530475.stm

Originally Posted by Necron99

The six Iranian singers who were arrested for appearing in a viral video dancing to Pharrell Williams’ song “Happy” have been sentenced to six months in prison and 91 lashes.

Have they lashed Pharrell Williams yet?...At least Thailand is trying to Bring Back Happiness...

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Necron99

The six Iranian singers who were arrested for appearing in a viral video dancing to Pharrell Williams’ song “Happy” have been sentenced to six months in prison and 91 lashes.

Have they lashed Pharrell Williams yet?...At least Thailand is trying to Bring Back Happiness...

I must admit, if I keep hearing that fucking song everywhere, I'm going to start wishing they do.