Thread: Portugal Cops Reopen Madeleine McCann Case

The Mcgann investigation has always puzzled me, the parents must have friends in high places.

The officers i believe are no nearer to concluding the investigation.

Her parents should face some sort of charges. None of this would have happened if they hadn't gone out partying and having left their children unattended. Her parents are supposed to be clever people? Doctors, I believe?

Pragmatic thats a good point if you do that in the UK the social services would be down on you like a ton of bricks.

If the Portuguese have reopened the case, then that makes the Mccans 'Official Suspects' again then? They only lost that status, because the case was closed.

See, immediately there are people who comment and say her parents are murderers. They were 50 metres away, they were checking up every 30 minutes.

I'm getting sick of it here.

I think that the Maddy McCann story has actually helped in the fact that it got the media going and internet etc. Even if she is never found, her parents and their percervirance may help many other families find their lost children.

I haven't lost hope for them to find Maddy safe and well. Neither have i lost hope for other parents who have had their children removed from them.

It must be so difficult.

Patsy are you talking about members here or the media?

the amount of money spent on this investigation is unbelieveable and as you rightly state, many other parents could of had this budget to find there children.

Detectives uncover potential new evidence and witnesses who were never questioned during the original investigation.
7:28pm UK, Thursday 24 October 2013




Artist's photo impression of how Madeleine may have looked when she was nine.





A computer-generated image released in November 2009 shows how Maddie might look in a hotter climate.





Image by the Child Exploitation And Online Protection Centre shows a likeness of Madeleine.





Another poster released in May 2009 shows what Madeleine might have looked like in recent years.


Police in Portugal have reopened the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - five years after the original probe was closed.

The team of detectives is said to have had no involvement in that investigation which ended in 2008 and was heavily criticised in the British media.

The new inquiry - which will run separately, but alongside the probe by British police - follows an internal review of the case since March 2011.

Portugal's public prosecutors approved the move after a request from officers in Porto who have identified new lines of inquiry, witnesses who were never questioned during the original probe and several issues they want to clarify.





Kate and Gerry McCann believe their daughter is still alive.

A spokesman for the Attorney General's office said: "The Public Ministry has determined the reopening of the inquiry relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann following a request from the Policia Judiciaria."

Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry said they were "very pleased" at the decision by Portuguese authorities and hoped that it would uncover "the answers we so desperately need".

"We hope that this will finally lead to her being found and to the discovery of whoever is responsible for this crime," the couple said.

"We once again urge any member of the public who may have information relating to Madeleine's abduction to contact the police in Portugal or the UK.

"Please be patient and respect the work of the police as they endeavour to find the answers we so desperately need."

The lawyer for the McCann's in Portugal, Rogerio Alves, said: "While it is not known what happened to Madeleine, the matter is not closed.

Madeleine McCann
Madeleine was three years old when she vanished on May 3, 2007
"The reopening of the case is excellent news, it creates a new perspective on the case and gives hope to the parents. The result is that we all hope Madeleine is found."

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading the Scotland Yard team, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley and Mr and Mrs McCann met officers in Lisbon last week to be briefed on the Portuguese case.

Mr Rowley welcomed the move as "good news", adding: "Combined with the formal reopening of the Portuguese investigation today, and our ever closer working relationship, I believe that we have the best opportunity yet to finally understand what happened to Madeleine."

Sky's Martin Brunt said the development would "boost the manpower" now applied to the case.

"This of course is what Madeleine McCann's parents have always wanted," he said.

"They were very disappointed when it was shelved after 15 months - after their daughter disappeared - the investigation having got nowhere.

"They were distraught at that, have argued ever since that it should be reopened and now they have got that wish."




E-fits of suspect police want to question
E-fits of a man police want to speak to about Madeleine's disappearance

He added: "There is an awful lot of work still to be done, there are lots of people to be tracked down and interviewed, and at least now the Portuguese detectives who will be re-engaged on this can join Scotland Yard in doing that."

Carrie-Marie Bratley, who works for the Portugal News in Lagoa, in the Algarve, told Sky News the Portuguese detectives "were chosen for their emotional and physical distance from this case in the hope that maybe they could go over it with a fine-tooth comb and come up with something, which it seems they may have done."

The team is separate to the group of six Portuguese officers based in Faro who have been assisting the Metropolitan Police.

The move to re-examine the case in the country where Madeleine went missing comes after a fresh appeal for information was aired in the UK, Holland and Germany.

Scotland Yard received more than 2,400 phone calls from across Europe following the broadcast of a reconstruction of events leading up to the three-year-old's disappearance in 2007.

They have released two e-fit images of a man they want to speak to in connection with the case based on the accounts of two witnesses.

Both described seeing him in Praia da Luz at around 10pm on May 3, as Madeleine's parents dined at a nearby tapas restaurant with friends.











Four other e-fits based on witness accounts of men seen in the area, some of whom may have been working as "charity collectors" who may or may not be genuine, were also released.

An appeal is also due to air on Irish television later this month.

Home Secretary Theresa May said the collaboration between British and Portuguese police officers was "starting to bear fruit" and hoped it would lead to a "resolution".
http://news.sky.com/story/1159161/ma...ps-reopen-case


Please discuss this topic without bickering. Thank you.

OK, lets say they murdered their child. My God, they must be the best actors in the world to have let their story go on for all these years. And why did they kill her and not the other two?

Even so, their story has opened up the world to helping abducted childen more.

NR, I just like good things to happen. Mea Culpa.

Madeleine was the only child out of the three who was autistic and "hard to handle".

Originally Posted by ENT

Madeleine was the only child out of the three who was autistic and "hard to handle".

That only came up recently in the press, if its true. Don't forget she was only three, autism can not be detected until much older. . But even so, as doctors, they should know what an autistic child is and how to cope. You think they killed her because she was defected in some way?!! To become the perfect family with the twins?

If that is true, then why keep going on and on about finding her?

Originally Posted by patsycat

If that is true, then why keep going on and on about finding her?

Maybe they feel slightly guilty?

man seen heading towards the sea
carrying what seemed to be a child in pyjamas.
Why the sea?
was there a boat?-unlikely
why would an abductor dispose of a body in the sea?
no one broke into the house
something does not fit with the story as told by the parents
conclusion-up to you

Originally Posted by patsycat

Originally Posted by ENT

Madeleine was the only child out of the three who was autistic and "hard to handle".

That only came up recently in the press, if its true. Don't forget she was only three, autism can not be detected until much older. . But even so, as doctors, they should know what an autistic child is and how to cope. You think they killed her because she was defected in some way?!! To become the perfect family with the twins?

If that is true, then why keep going on and on about finding her?

I think that Madeleine was diagnosed as such (autistic) while quite young, which is unusual, maybe she was diagnosed with a related condition. Whichever, seemingly from some accounts, Madeleine was not included de rigeur in all family activities, spending a noticeable amount of time with her grandmother. There are some reports to the effect that she may have been considered for fostering to another family.

If that is so, one may wonder at her mother's demeanour throughout this investigation, especially regarding her refusal to answer any of the Portugese police's questions concerning her daughter's disappearance.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Her parents should face some sort of charges. None of this would have happened if they hadn't gone out partying and having left their children unattended. Her parents are supposed to be clever people? Doctors, I believe?

Probably would have been charged if poor or on some sort of benefits, this pair got the kid glove treatment because they are middle class Doctors. If they had been a couple of scumbags leaving the kids all night while they got pissed the media would have crucified them. Don't believe for a minute they were going to check on them every 30 minutes.

So, why are they so adamant about finding her now, if they wanted to foster her off. Why not just do that at the time, and get on with their lives. Without all the rigmarole over the past few years.

Originally Posted by Kurgen

Originally Posted by patsycat

If that is true, then why keep going on and on about finding her?

Maybe they feel slightly guilty?

Other cases where the murderer has taken a lead in the 'search' and appeared on TV over and over. Not saying they were involved, apart from the negligence of leaving kids alone while they got drunk, but it's certainly not impossible.

There are glaring inconsistencies in the mother's testimony and behaviour regarding the alleged abduction that need thorough examination.

Now that the Portugese police have agreed to re-open the investigation, Madeleine's parents will again be placed under scrutiny without a professional PR team to protect her interests and sensibilities.

repressed guilt?

Most crimes of violence including murder are committed by someone known to the victim.

If cadavre dogs identified human cadaverine at the motel and car and on the mother's clothes then a human being at least one and a half hours deceased was in contact with those parts identified.

Post your thoughts

Saw a Crimewatch special aired in England last week. The only conclusion I was able to come to was: the butler, with the candlestick, in the study.

Either that or a man who was spotted with a small girl about 500 metres from the resort they were staying at a relevant time.

There isn't much to go on at all.

But apparently the program elicted a good many hundred calls re the photo-fits that were shown.

The apartment was a fair way away from the tapas bar, a good five minutes walk IMO, judging by the scale of the picture below.

That fact alone makes one wonder what the hell were the parents thinking of by leaving the kids unattended so far away and for so long!

They check the kids after half an hour or so then an hour later. Odd behaviour for caring parents.


20:30 Kate and Gerry McCann leave their apartment to have dinner at a Tapas bar
21:05 Gerry McCann checks on Madeleine and her siblings
22:00 A man is seen carrying a child wearing pyjamas heading towards the ocean
22:00 Kate McCann raises the alarm that Madeleine has gone missing