Thread: UK teenager to stand trial for 'grossly offensive' Afghan war post on Facebook

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It is kind of interesting. Because Mr Azhar Ahmed would probably throw a mental if I reminded him that the Prophet Mohammed was a fucking paedophile, and probably demand my immediate beheading.

So fuck him.

Lock him up with some paras or marines for a day, don't waste the taxpayers money on this worthless piece of shit.

2nd that, all of that.

No doubt some dirty little 2nd generation paki fukker who doesn't know how good he's got it.

^ Do you mean Lakshmi Mittal?

Built his empire on lower caste slave labour.

Yeah, nice.

He'll probably fund one of the political parties and get a knighthood.

Try the TOP TEN Harry and see how many are ENGLISH< BRITISH LOL

hmm and let me remember how was the empire built, and where do many of are products still come from,

Originally Posted by blue

Enoch Powell was right
we would be better off without immigrant filth

I don't think Enoch actually said those words 'immigrant filth' !

He said the rivers would run red with blood (or words to that effect)

And if the rivers (eg the Exe, or Dart) aren't blood red, then in a literal sense, he's wrong.

IMO it would be difficult to convict this individual on what can only be perceived as a generalisation. It is not personally directed at any one particular person with the INTENT of causing offence to that person.

The fact that others linked to his Facebook page may have found it grossly offensive is not relevant as for what one perceives as being 'offensive' another may not. Recent football 'bad taste jokes' being an example.

For my sins, i occasionally look in at my Facebook link and am sometimes horrified at what some teenagers (sons and daughters of friends) are discussing. Some people may find it grossly offensive but would they be ringing up the police to complain about the content of the communication? The simple answer would be no.

The fact that this guy has a strong opinion regarding the presence of British soldiers in Afghanistan (not far divorced from some Smith's and Brown's i suspect) and is voicing that opinion on a social network site doesn't necessarily make him a criminal/public enemy No 1

Like many Indian's/Pakistani's/WI UK immigrants that don't pass the cricket test, that doesn't make them any less legal to be residing in the UK and being permitted an opinion on what directly/indirectly affects them.

People have opinions, just some stronger than others. Many indigenous brits have displayed displeasure online at the presence of British troops in Iraq/Afghanistan and some may, probably somewhere along the line, have suggested that Blair is scum and should be sitting in a prison somewhere as a war criminal. The Blairites must have been seething although I didn't get to hear about any suspects being rounded up and appearing before the courts.

I really can't see this case getting beyond the front desk of the CPS in truth.

The case may not get very far but,
[putting aside my dislike of the immigrant ]
they have processed him and added him to thier database
he will have been photographed fingerprinted and DNA taken.
Even being arrested makes travel to certain countries very hard.

Built his empire on lower caste slave labour.

Unlike like the British, eh.

Originally Posted by Dan

How is that racially aggravated? How insane. I'm amazed that this is going to trial. His mastery of English, however ....

50 far-right protesters staged a noisy demonstration when the defendant arrived and left, calling for “jail to those who insult our troops.”

Ah, the joys of democracy.

Ah the joys of an objective impartial press using loaded terms like "far-right" to shepherd the readers into hostility towards one point of view.

It's as racially-aggravated as the average charge placed against anyone who offends the protected clients of the extreme left.

Surely this aspect is besides the point, the focus should be on the way social media is leading to people ending up in the courts - is social media the problem; or is the law the problem...

Originally Posted by madjbs

I don't think what he wrote should be considered a crime. It's his point of view and he is entitled to it however vile it is. He was not inciting hatred or violence so once you start down the track of prosecuting people for their beliefs

I agree. Whilst I am eager for his deportation and that of his and all ethnic minorities, I am with Voltaire in defending his right to be offensive - a right I would expect to enjoy in a free country. In any event, his comments are pretty much run of the mill for people of his age and evident level of literacy on the internet. It's actually quite a challenge to come up with anything truly offensive these days.

Originally Posted by Dan

Azhar Ahmed .... the Yorkshire teenager

For better or for worse (and it's probably the latter), Yorkshire is part of Britain so that makes him.........British.

I suppose you regard Cliff Richard as Indian because he was born in India?
It doesn't matter what the Labour Party had you taught in school; or whatever crypto-fascist laws they brought in, no immigrant or ethnic minority will ever be British - self evident, not least because they and their protectors in all their semantic propaganda games use the very terms that define them as such.

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Originally Posted by blue

Enoch Powell was right
we would be better off without immigrant filth

I don't think Enoch actually said those words 'immigrant filth' !

Absolutely; nor was he a thug or a lightweight like the average lefty fascist that condemn him, and have done their best to make him out to be like "blue" here.

The prophet Enoch, was at Cambridge as a teenager, got the highest grade possible for a degree, and became a Professor by the time he was 25, and was not ignorant of peoples and cultures from other parts of the world.


...returning to the point, the kid should not be charged with anything. There should be no laws relating to 'race' (which has no definition); and the way incitement is utterly misapplied in law by judges in the UK urgently needs resolving. Incitement does not mean "telling someone to do something, and then being responsible for their actions as a sane adult", which is how they are currently interpreting it... it's utterly immoral to convict anyone on those grounds, because it denies the agency of other individuals, as if they were pleading insanity or under the age of criminal liability. Same goes for group enterprise.
The kunt should have the right to insult the troops, and any member of the public should have the right to say "fuck off home, paqi" etc... the state has no business getting involved in this and policing people's interactions. It's the infantilisation of the general public by the state - a legacy of the Labour Party.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Here is the offensive post.

"People gassin about the deaths of Soldiers! What about the innocent familys who have been brutally killed.. The women who have.been raped.. The children who have been sliced up..! Your enemy's were the Taliban not innocent harmful familys. All soldiers should DIE & go to HELL! THE LOWLIFE FOKKIN SUM! gotta problem go cry at your soldiers grave & wish him hell because thats where he is going.."

All soldiers should DIE & go to HELL! « PitKanary

Ive seen worse posted here.
Freedom of speech alive and well in the UK.
Will we see the WASP kids getting the same for laughing at photos of 'taliban' being urinated on ?

Mark

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the Prophet Mohammed was a fucking paedophile,.

Elaborate please.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

That asshole pastor and his flock of lunatics in Texas say far worse, and do so at the funerals of dead soldiers, or at least as close as they can get legally. And far from being arrested, they are protected by police.

Yep Davis, exactly what turns my stomach also.

And Dan:

You weren't, though I do think including Islamophobia within the general description of racism is perfectly acceptable since the latter is the best general purpose word we have.

Take your pretty blurring of the lines and shove it up your arse.

Islam is a religion that harbours hatred and terrorism, period.

It has nothing to do with race.

It's just a convenient tag liberal twats put on people they don't agree with - normally the same people they go screaming to for help when the dear terrorists for whom they demand equality go around terrorising them.

Race is an English word with a simple meaning, and it has nothing to do with religion.

This bloke has no more love for the English than he has for a halal beefburger, and I just wish England had the bollocks to say "If you don't like it, fuck off and fight for the Taliban".

erm, where in the OP does it state he is Islamic ? Or did you guess based on the ethnicity of his name?

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the Prophet Mohammed was a fucking paedophile,.

Elaborate please.

He fucked 12 year olds.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

erm, where in the OP does it state he is Islamic ? Or did you guess based on the ethnicity of his name?

Sorry, didn't you know the English press aren't allowed to mention that he's Muslim?

So let me do it for them:

He's a fucking mussie.

Mind you:

Azhar Ahmed, 19, appeared at court charged under the Communications Act 2003 with sending a message that was grossly offensive on March 8.

Half of Teakdoor are going down!

Sorry, didn't you know the English press aren't allowed to mention that he's Muslim?

So let me do it for them:

He's a fucking mussie.

Oh, what an iconoclast. So, since you've now shown such superhuman levels of bravery, when are you going to do your national duty and tell all these mussie bastards face-to-face that they're got to fuck off back to Afghanistan? Surely you must go back to England from time to time and after such internet heroics, leading your pogrom on the back-to-backs of Bradford would be child's play.

He's a Paki. And 97% of Pakis are Muslims, so you have a 97% chance that he's a five-a-day headbanger.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

He's a Paki. And 97% of Pakis are Muslims, so you have a 97% chance that he's a five-a-day headbanger.

Seriously, DK, the English press are not allowed to mention that he's muslim. Much like they aren't allowed to say that a rapist suspect was black.

In order to find out that he was muslim, I had to go to that beacon of international journalism, Iran's Press TV, which of course is very proud of the muslim hate boy spreading the message about the West being evil.

^Strange little country ya got there, 'Arry.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

How do you know he's from Afghanistan?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I just wish England had the bollocks to say "If you don't like it, fuck off and fight for the Taliban".

It's one page back. It's not that hard to keep track of your own posts, is it?

So come one - you've shown what you're capable of and now England expects every man to do his duty. I'll find out some names of the more radical mosques for you to call at but don't forget to ask them to take pictures as they ram your copy of The Express up your arse - we wouldn't want to miss out on that.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Strange little country ya got there, 'Arry.

Yes, we could a lot from the Americans on race relations.

Heres another example of how the Pakistanis have enriched Britain
they have even moved out of the cities to villages now

A COUPLE running a village shop pocketed a customer’s £156,659 winning lottery ticket after telling him it was worth only £10.

But Alfred Jeevarajah, 45, and his 38-year-old wife Anne came unstuck after lottery operator Camelot became suspicious over their huge claim.

The pair were each jailed for 14 months for what a judge at Norwich Crown Court called their “flagrant breach of trust”.

Loyal customer Gwyn Badham-Davies, 73, was conned when Mrs Jeevarajah checked his ticket at her newsagents in Hingham, Norfolk.

She scanned the ticket on her lottery terminal and would have seen it had matched five winning num- bers and the bonus ball.

It meant construction firm director Mr Badham-Davies had scooped £156,659 from the draw on June 25 last year. But Mrs Jeevarajah told him he had won only £10 for matching three numbers.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Lying shop couple stole lotto winner's £156,000

so why no river of blood ?
Enoch was wrong in a way he did not anticipate that so many British men would turn gay
here is the cheated lottery winner talking in the telegraph newspaper about the Pakistani

After the hearing Mr Badham-Davies, who has since been paid his £156,000 win, said he had bought lottery tickets at the shop every week./He said his village life had been ruined by the crime but insisted he felt no anger towards the couple. Mr Badham-Davies, of Hingham, said: "I don't feel any malice or animosity. I see it as a betrayal. I feel hurt about it, but they made a mistake. I forgive them."

The pensioner added: "The only thing that upset me, to an extent, is it really spoiled my village life. I loved going into that village shop."

Originally Posted by Dan

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Strange little country ya got there, 'Arry.

Yes, we could a lot from the Americans on race relations.

Wasn't talking to you. Was responding to Harry. Take your gratuitous anti-Americanism and shove it.

Unfortunately, you don't get to decide who posts.