Thread: Aramco vs Statoil. Muzzie bashers welcome.

No, Norway is full of Norwegians, who were bright enough to stay out of the EU, and to have a culture that keeps their population (and immigration) low (and lucky enough to discover oil and gas than they'll ever need).

Bright enough or lucky enough ? I'am sure they would be in the EU if they had no oil

There's no such thing as race (but religion), and I certainly don't see what Northwest Europeans have got in common with slovenly mediterraneans or violent eastern europeans.

The reason why SA imports so much is arguably because most academics from there are glad to get out and do some interesting work abroad... (but don't most of them come back ?)generally going abroad from whatever country you come from makes you feel good and seem more interesting to other people (on a superficial level), alas, not so many academics are tempted to go there, due to the lack of appeal of the culture, so you end up with agglomerations of academics in hotspot areas where funding follows, and the contrast grows. I suppose if the west does start taking an economic dive, these less culturally attractive places, may decide to set up little science city enclaves where academic expats can earn a lot more and be shielded from the locals and their hateful customs (Silicon Valley did not hurt Europe as most expected); but somehow, I doubt it will be enough to catch up.
The more interesting question, is whether they can stop the brain drain, and find ways to keep their best people... and to clean up the corruption (corruption and islam...) in their universities... again... where's the incentive for them? They're trying to develop luxury tourism, but they look down on the culture of their customers... how can Arab countries (apart from Egypt) seriously compete with the charms of laid back fun and easy pussy in so many parts of latin america and eastern asia?

Fair enough, but this is supposed to be a Muzzie bashing thread

What would SA look like if it was a christian country ? I would say better developed like Norway.

I don't see how changing one parameter on a country would transform it into another!

Ultimately, countries, in fact, ethnic groups, and their cultures are a result of adaptation to an environment... the phenotypes that characterise ethnic groups are the manifestation of genotypes adapting to the environment... blonde fair-skinned scandinavians with different ocular DNA, loss of lactose intolerance and the manufacturing of vitamin D are a response to lower levels of sunlight etc... similarly, the culture of a people compelled by the search for food and resources on the coasts of a fairly isolated rocky peninsular are bound to be a bit different from those living in the world's biggest sand pit.

The Norwegians didn't become Christian until about 3-400 years after Islam had consumed the near east, and a lot of good maths "Al Gebra" (and "Algorithm" -> Algoritmi -> al-Khwārizmī) resulted during the European dark ages, that was brought to an end with the rise of the Ottomans.

So Arabia before that lovable moon-worshipping paedophile got his cult going? It was just a zone of little semitic kingdoms, with a lunar trinity goddess... they would most likely have become Orthodox Christian... like Copts and Ethiopians, and I wouldn't be surprised if this religious unity might have enabled Russia to have had a much more dominant role in the region... which, with the history of Russian expansionism could have seen the Russians rivalling or outdoing the British... imagine the effects of a communist revolution in a Russian empire effectively twice as big as what was seen in the 20th centtury! reaching from Canada to Spain; from Norway down to the Sahel, and having a greater influence in India, Iran, and China... we could be living in the results of a Russian world, rather than a British one... with Russian values being the norm... perhaps the USA would never have existed, and 1984 might really have been more like 1984... nature abhors a vacuum... you take away Islam, you never know what might take it's place... chances are it wouldn't be jolly apple-pie protestantism in SA!

It's hard to say what Norway would have done had it had no oil... bearing in mind that it found oil in the 1960s
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...what was the world like then? I'd suggest that Norway would have been a prime candidate for "Finlandisation" by the Soviet Union... along with Sweden.

Religion is just another word for politics; it all equates to ideology - or rather "hey I know how to tell you what's best for you" etc...

Many academics are sent back (often to very lucrative high-status careers as corruptocrats in their countries of origin)... but many are taken on as lecturers and researchers because natives will often find better jobs and don't regard a career in academia with the same reverence as Asians do.

Silicon Valley robbed Britain of it's lead in the computers and electronics industry, we were stuck with shithead socialists wrecking all that centuries of ruthless capitalism had built up!

I don't think corruption is connected to religion - just to culture... in developing countries you have this client-patron relationship (it pervades the immigrant communities here), we lost it during the industrial revolution over the course of many decades of strife... these 3rd world countries have reaped the benefits of our culture whilst not having to evolve beyond theirs, simply because it suits us to use our shiny shite to bribe them to acquire their resources and cheap labour to maintain our perpetual growth.... a bit short sighted really... just like giving shotguns to chimpanzees.