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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    Gerald Celente, a guy who's opinion I respect, values gold at anywhere from $2500 - $5000 an oz.
    great opinion, a range of 100%

    an accurate assessment of his value

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    great opinion, a range of 100%
    those gold gurus don't like to take risks with their predictions

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    who is Gerald Calente ? let's see, a chartist maybe ?

    Gerald Celente - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In November 2008 Celente appeared on Fox Business Network and predicted economic depression, tax rebellions and food riots in the United States by 2012.[18] Celente also predicted an "economic 9/11" and a "panic of 2008."[19]

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    hey 9999, didn't take you for a delusional doomer, but apparently you like that guy who seem to be another doom nutter

    Hugo Lindgren and ABC News have labelled Celente's predictions "pessimism porn" for their doom and the alleged eschatological thrill some people receive from imagining his predictions of the collapse of civil society in the wake of a global economic crisis.[22][23]

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    Settle down I just said I respect the guy's opinion, I don't pray to him or suck his cock or anything. He has been right on many things in the past. Nutjob or not, that can't be denied.

    To put things in perspective, Butters, I respect your opinion only slightly less than Gerald's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waradmiral View Post
    The graph shows gold going nowhere since 2011. 2 years of under performance and no dividends. Meanwhile a lot of equities have gone up 50-100% plus dividends.

    Yeah let's buy gold and wait 25 years for the next major boom :-)
    And other people who have invested in "blue chip" companies have lost 100% of their "investment".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    who is Gerald Calente ? let's see, a chartist maybe ?

    Gerald Celente - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In November 2008 Celente appeared on Fox Business Network and predicted economic depression, tax rebellions and food riots in the United States by 2012.[18] Celente also predicted an "economic 9/11" and a "panic of 2008."[19]
    Economic depression - Check
    Food riots - check the increasing numbers receiving US food stamps, check the numbers in Greece rioting, check the numbers in Spain rioting.
    Eonomic 9/11 - The mighty US/Europe are losing the battle against Asia - Check
    Panic of 2008 - Still awaited.

    Look at Caterpillars, an economic global bell weather company, latest economic update - Things are getting worse
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post
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    So I lose the bet with 9999.
    gg sir, let me know when you're in country we can settle up

    I think gold is undervalued right now. Gerald Celente, a guy who's opinion I respect, values gold at anywhere from $2500 - $5000 an oz.

    Also interesting to not that physical gold is going for as high as a 20% premium in some places over it's paper/ digital fake version.
    I sure hope Im in Thailand soon. I havn't been in awhile because I've been too busy dating western hoes and hanging around in Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    more useless graph by the usual nutters
    Even when you are shown a graph of how the dollar has lost purchasing power over time you claim its a conspiracy theory graph with no meaning. But hey let's not let facts get in the way of things?

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    Unlike your own research and opinions which are, well nobody knows because your 'morals' prevent you revealing anything except in hindsight, and strangely enough your performance has always been 'better'

    I know you idolise all things French even though there is a rumour that you are in fact from that great nation of ...... Belgium so perhaps it is time you just SURRENDER now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    I think gold is undervalued right now. Gerald Celente, a guy who's opinion I respect
    so without any fundamental research, you simply believe one guy completely based solely on his opinion that incidentally fits your uninformed view ?

    priceless indeed

    let's put those bets up, I raise you 2 Singha from Tesco Express
    Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    I think gold is undervalued right now. Gerald Celente, a guy who's opinion I respect
    so without any fundamental research, you simply believe one guy completely based solely on his opinion that incidentally fits your uninformed view ?

    priceless indeed

    let's put those bets up, I raise you 2 Singha from Tesco Express
    Seems you defaulted on your last bet with 9999 so maybe even that bet is a little rich for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    great opinion, a range of 100%
    those gold gurus don't like to take risks with their predictions
    Unlike your predictions which are.............
    The ultimate hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    great opinion, a range of 100%
    those gold gurus don't like to take risks with their predictions
    Unlike your predictions which are.............
    The ultimate hypocrite.
    Butters Belgian ?

    Feck. that puts him closer to me.

    He has french written all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Food riots - check the increasing numbers receiving US food stamps, check the numbers in Greece rioting, check the numbers in Spain rioting.
    Gerald Celente, you know, the guy I idolize and take his word as gospel, in the wharped world of butters' assumptions anyway, predicted food riots in America in 2013-2014, about 2 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    it is time you just SURRENDER now
    how old are you again, Socal 2.0 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    Even when you are shown a graph of how the dollar has lost purchasing power
    at the cost of growth, so we get more USD than ever before, so not a bad thing. For every effect, there is a counter-effect.

    we could do like the Brits in the 80s, have a strong pound but a weak economy with no growth. Very stable, but being poor would be the standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    Even when you are shown a graph of how the dollar has lost purchasing power
    at the cost of growth, so we get more USD than ever before, so not a bad thing. For every effect, there is a counter-effect.

    we could do like the Brits in the 80s, have a strong pound but a weak economy with no growth. Very stable, but being poor would be the standard.
    So you are also in favour of currencies losing their value? I suppose this is in line with your investment advice of buying expensive cars and not buying gold so at least you are consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh

    31/01/2013 gold at 23,600THB/one baht weight in Bangkok

    Purchased at 18,000THB 32 months ago

    5,600THB profit approx 11.6% per year
    31/03/2013 gold at 22,250THB/one baht weight in Bangkok

    Purchased at 18,000THB 34 months ago

    4,500THB profit approx 8.9% per year

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    4,500THB profit approx 8.9% per year
    very low return considering the risk taken,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    4,500THB profit approx 8.9% per year
    very low return considering the risk taken,
    Yeah should have invested in the mystery cannot mention buttercup fund which returns 7.5 zillion percent per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    4,500THB profit approx 8.9% per year
    very low return considering the risk taken,
    Risk in what currency ? Usdollars ?

    What currency are u so bullish on ?

    The only bull you know is bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh

    31/01/2013 gold at 23,600THB/one baht weight in Bangkok

    Purchased at 18,000THB 32 months ago

    5,600THB profit approx 11.6% per year
    31/03/2013 gold at 22,250THB/one baht weight in Bangkok

    Purchased at 18,000THB 34 months ago

    4,500THB profit approx 8.9% per year

    that's a low return

    TLS is returning 10% in dividends plus growth of 50% in 2 years

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    A little bit of old news from America.




    By virtue of the authority vested in me by ... an Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes ... I, Franklin D Roosevelt ... do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and ... do hereby prohibit the hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations ..."
    These are the opening phrases of Executive Order 6102, issued by FDR 80 years ago on Friday. The order has become notorious among gold investors. Some fear something similar could happen again, that their government might seek to take their gold away as part of some trumped up "solution" to a "national economic emergency".
    Events in Cyprus, where at one point it seemed that the state was going to levy a 6.75pc tax on "insured" deposits below €100,000, have served only to heighten fears that private wealth can, under certain circumstances, simply be appropriated.

    Roosevelt's gold confiscation: could it happen again? - Telegraph

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    Even though this has been an interesting thread to read, I will have to use my gut and past history to soon invest in gold. With the world situation, precious metals just makes more sense to me than investing in paper, even though many things may give a higher yield of return.

    If everything were to go south, gold is something that always could be used to buy whatever one needed during a world disaster. Paper would be worthless, as would much of the world currency. Since I will be gaining some disposable income in the near future, I will be putting most of it in gold and stash it away. Hopefully, we will never have a world disaster, but nothing is for sure.

    As I said, interesting thread, but a little too speculative and technical for me. I am just someone who wants to have some reserve buying power and gold seems to be the best bet at the moment.

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    The platinum group metals are the best performers of the precious metals complex this year, with platinum up 1.5 percent and palladium 8.1 percent, against a 6.2 percent drop in gold prices and a 10.5 percent fall in silver.

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