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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    buy a car,
    I already got one.

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    buy a very nice car,

    if you got to loose money, which is more than likely, might as well enjoy it

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    Socal is likely to be correct. China is targeting 6000 - 8000 tonnes of gold over the next couple of years and once they are ready to do so, are linking the Yuan to gold. At this announcement gold will fly and anyone with investments based upon the pie in the sky dollar will be selling their copper pipes to trade for a tin of horse meat stew. The Fed has sold all of Germany's gold, and most likely America's gold. A good guess is that before the 7 year time line they gave for giving Germany's gold back, the Fed will shut up shop and run to the hills Keyser Söze style.

    The advice right now from the money men is sink your cash into something tangible like gold and silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    So no response. I guess we will have to wait 25 years for the next big boom then :-)

    Good luck holding gold for 25 years with no dividends waiting for the next big boom.
    you should know that socal and draco888 aka socal 2.0 are our resident gold nutters, they know no assets other than Gold, and for good reasons

    like the Chinese or Indian peasant, it's a simple asset to understand because of its myth longevity and history of riches, it's also pretty and shiny and makes you look rich when you are actually poor. It's incidentally the favorite asset of bargirls, as a proof of financial success.
    You must be really stupid to not understand a 'gold nutter' would never be short gold as I have mentioned several times but I suppose that's a little too technical for our resident bar stool know nothing butterfly.
    Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    Please do tell me why gold will reach $3200 an ounce within the next 5-10 years.

    Should be worth a good laugh.
    because there is a conspiracy out there with the Fed debasing all major currencies
    No there is no debasing is there? 1 dollar today buys the same quantity of goods as it did 100 years ago and will buy the same in 50 years time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superman
    If I had a large sum of money say 40,000 GBP
    buy a car,
    Of course butterfly has too many 'morals' to recommend anything, he just says in hindsight what has done better than gold. That's hard to do is it not?

    Actually butterfly as a used car salesman sounds about right actually

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    and enter Draco888

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    buy a car,
    I already got one.
    $40,000 could fetch you 25 of these. Just think of how much more gold you would have then any of the average people you know. They will all be getting fucked over and confused with various financial products while you sit and watch them slowly figuring it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    and enter Draco888
    Fascinating analysis and insight as usual. Even socal has the confidence to come out and be judged, you? Nothing but cowardice

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    Keep it up socal the warmonger has gone quiet or may be reading the other 80+ pages for his education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    I'm confused with this in fighting. If I had a large sum of money say 40,000 GBP. What would be my way forward for the future, knowing that the UK banks are fcuked. Serious question as I know nothing.
    Nor does anyone here allegedly.

    But buy physical gold and get it out of the UK as soon as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    I'm confused with this in fighting. If I had a large sum of money say 40,000 GBP. What would be my way forward for the future, knowing that the UK banks are fcuked. Serious question as I know nothing.
    Nor does anyone here allegedly.

    But buy physical gold and get it out of the UK as soon as you can.
    Or you could follow butters investment advice which so far has consisted of:

    1. Don't buy gold (which direction has the price of gold gone since then?)

    2. Buy a 40k car (which direction will the price go after depreciation?)

    Top investment advice so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Keep it up socal the warmonger has gone quiet or may be reading the other 80+ pages for his education.
    Education

    You dimwits don't understand the basics on investments.

    Let me educate you

    XYZ Ltd

    Price $10
    Yield 5%
    DPS 50c

    15 years later

    $40
    Yield 4%
    DPS $1.60

    1.6/10 = 16%

    So the LT investor now holds shares yielding 16% plus a 300% capital gain.

    There have been many companies that have achieved results like this while Gold has had 2 bull markets in 100 years and pays NO DIVIDENDS

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    I admire your ability to see 15 years into the future so clearly

    Quote Originally Posted by waradmiral View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Keep it up socal the warmonger has gone quiet or may be reading the other 80+ pages for his education.
    Education

    You dimwits don't understand the basics on investments.

    Let me educate you

    XYZ Ltd

    Price $10
    Yield 5%
    DPS 50c

    15 years later

    $40
    Yield 4%
    DPS $1.60

    1.6/10 = 16%

    So the LT investor now holds shares yielding 16% plus a 300% capital gain.

    There have been many companies that have achieved results like this while Gold has had 2 bull markets in 100 years and pays NO DIVIDENDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888 View Post
    I admire your ability to see 15 years into the future so clearly

    Quote Originally Posted by waradmiral View Post
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    Keep it up socal the warmonger has gone quiet or may be reading the other 80+ pages for his education.
    Education

    You dimwits don't understand the basics on investments.

    Let me educate you

    XYZ Ltd

    Price $10
    Yield 5%
    DPS 50c

    15 years later

    $40
    Yield 4%
    DPS $1.60

    1.6/10 = 16%

    So the LT investor now holds shares yielding 16% plus a 300% capital gain.

    There have been many companies that have achieved results like this while Gold has had 2 bull markets in 100 years and pays NO DIVIDENDS

    The thing is YOU DONT HAVE TOO.

    Go read a Buffett book and he'll explain how to do forecasts like this. It's all pretty basic and just common sense.

    The only difference with Buffett is he prefers to re-invest dividends and focus on EPS rather than DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Socal is likely to be correct. China is targeting 6000 - 8000 tonnes of gold over the next couple of years and once they are ready to do so, are linking the Yuan to gold. At this announcement gold will fly and anyone with investments based upon the pie in the sky dollar will be selling their copper pipes to trade for a tin of horse meat stew. The Fed has sold all of Germany's gold, and most likely America's gold. A good guess is that before the 7 year time line they gave for giving Germany's gold back, the Fed will shut up shop and run to the hills Keyser Söze style.

    The advice right now from the money men is sink your cash into something tangible like gold and silver.
    America can just nick all the gold in the world from anyone they want to. Who's gonna stop em?

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    WW3. End of the world. Gold. What a load of tosh. Guffaw.

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    must be rather annoying for him and monger that berkshire has underperformed gold for years, that maybe why they feel the need to get vocal against it

    Quote Originally Posted by waradmiral View Post
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    I admire your ability to see 15 years into the future so clearly

    Quote Originally Posted by waradmiral View Post
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    Keep it up socal the warmonger has gone quiet or may be reading the other 80+ pages for his education.
    Education

    You dimwits don't understand the basics on investments.

    Let me educate you

    XYZ Ltd

    Price $10
    Yield 5%
    DPS 50c

    15 years later

    $40
    Yield 4%
    DPS $1.60

    1.6/10 = 16%

    So the LT investor now holds shares yielding 16% plus a 300% capital gain.

    There have been many companies that have achieved results like this while Gold has had 2 bull markets in 100 years and pays NO DIVIDENDS

    The thing is YOU DONT HAVE TOO.

    Go read a Buffett book and he'll explain how to do forecasts like this. It's all pretty basic and just common sense.

    The only difference with Buffett is he prefers to re-invest dividends and focus on EPS rather than DPS.

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    So I lose the bet with 9999. Anyways, heres where we are.





    So, what are the lessons here?
    1. Can't predict a bottom. Downside momentum could continue from ongoing negative media headlines that scare investors into selling. Technical traders can also push gold down further.
    2. A consolidation period usually follows a large decline. Waiting is no fun, but it gives us time to accumulate the ounces we need and the stocks we want.
    3. Rebounds can be HUGE after big corrections. The bigger the fall, the bigger the bounce. Once the bottom is established and the consolidation completes, the climb could be powerful.
    4. Big corrections can supercharge investment returns. If you have a full position in gold and gold stocks, the strategy is simple: hold. If you have funds waiting to be deployed into the sector, we have some strategies below.

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    more useless graph by the usual nutters

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    The graph shows gold going nowhere since 2011. 2 years of under performance and no dividends. Meanwhile a lot of equities have gone up 50-100% plus dividends.

    Yeah let's buy gold and wait 25 years for the next major boom :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by waradmiral View Post
    The graph shows gold going nowhere since 2011. 2 years of under performance and no dividends. Meanwhile a lot of equities have gone up 50-100% plus dividends.

    Yeah let's buy gold and wait 25 years for the next major boom :-)
    First of all, no dividends are beating inflation on average.

    Equities have gone up 50-100% since early 2009. Not the last 2 years. But most indexes are still below 2007 highs. So as a trade, they have gone up. As an investment, they have gone nowhere for over a decade.

    Equities=shitty investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    So I lose the bet with 9999.
    gg sir, let me know when you're in country we can settle up

    I think gold is undervalued right now. Gerald Celente, a guy who's opinion I respect, values gold at anywhere from $2500 - $5000 an oz.

    Also interesting to not that physical gold is going for as high as a 20% premium in some places over it's paper/ digital fake version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    let me know when you're in country we can settle up
    shouldn't be hard to settle, how much was it again ? 40 THB Singha beer from the local 711 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    I think gold is undervalued right now. Gerald Celente, a guy who's opinion I respect
    so without any fundamental research, you simply believe one guy completely based solely on his opinion that incidentally fits your uninformed view ?

    priceless indeed

    let's put those bets up, I raise you 2 Singha from Tesco Express

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