Marriage Question

[Jesus Jones]

The GF and I are set to wed in March but I have a question with regards to applying for a marriage certificate at the Brit embassy.

I divorced my ex-wife in the UK in December 2004, but all my letters from the lawyers are at my parents home in the loft and unreachable for them to send to me.

When applying can i get away with saying that i'm single? Are they likely to check that I was married before.

And what is the procedure as for as the embassy is concerned?

Ta

[panama hat]

I don't know about Brit requirements specifically, but a friend married a Kiwi and had to produce a stat dec that he was single . . . he is Irish.

[AntRobertson]

The requirements are the same for all nationalities I think. You need a Stat. Dec to say that you've either never previously been married or, if you have, that you've been formally divorced. No way around that.

[blackgang]

But at the US embassy it is the same with the income letter.
They have you fill out a paper that how much you get in income or if you are married or free to marry,, you fill it out and they will not look at any papers of proof you have, The letter says that you said "xxx and XXX and zzz" the only thing that they notarize is that you said it signed the letter.
But about the Brit, I know nothing.
But a friend is marrying a Burmese and she had to go to Burma and get a letter that she was single from her village to be married in Thailand..

[Thetyim]

When applying can i get away with saying that i'm single?

yes, but it might come back and bite you later.

If you say that you are divorced then they will insist on a decree absolute

[oldgit]

Had to show decree absolute, then got Embassy free to marry, to show to ampur.

[Bower]

If you had a solicitor deal with your divorce and he's any good he should be able to send you a certified copy within 24hrs.

[PAG]

The GF and I are set to wed in March but I have a question with regards to applying for a marriage certificate at the Brit embassy.

I divorced my ex-wife in the UK in December 2004, but all my letters from the lawyers are at my parents home in the loft and unreachable for them to send to me.

When applying can i get away with saying that i'm single? Are they likely to check that I was married before.

And what is the procedure as for as the embassy is concerned?

Ta

I would speak to the Embassy/Consulate first if I were you. They might accept your word that you are divorced (though that's unlikely), so you need to get hold of a copy of your decree to show them. There are several online companies (UK based) who can obtain certified copies of birth, marriage, divorce certificates etc).

Once the Embassy/Consul completes the statutory declaration form, you need to get it translated into Thai, and then have it notarised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) in Bangkok. Depending where you live, this can take up to 9 days (though probably less). This will be the most important document to take to the Amphur to register the wedding.

Lot more information in this thread:

https://teakdoor.com/living-in-thaila...equisites.html (Getting Married Thread - Protocol - Pitfalls - Prerequisites)

[Jesus Jones]

OK, thanks for the info.

[DrB0b]

You have to fill out an affirmation. You pick up the completed copy the next day. If you say you're single there's no checking. As others have mentioned that might create problems for you in the future, especially if you ever want to bring your Missus to live in UK.

1. Affirmation of Freedom to Marry in Thailand

Retype the affirmation on one page, in the same format as the attached sample, and bring it in person to the Embassy to sign before a British Consular official.

We accept affirmations during normal working hours ( 08:00-11:00 and 13:00-15:15 Monday –Thursday and 08:00-12:00 on Friday ). It is not possible to make a prior appointment for this service. The completed affirmation will be ready for collection from the Embassy from 09:00 hrs on the following working day. We are not able to arrange a same day service for the collection of completed affirmations.
We charge Baht 3,074 per affirmation and can provide this service to British nationals only.
Please bring with you to the Embassy your passport and evidence that any previous marriages have been dissolved/terminated (death certificate or divorce certificate(s) as appropriate. Certificates issued in a third country outside UK and Thailand must be certified by the relevant British Embassy/Consulate or its respective Embassy in Thailand). Only the original evidence or a certified copy will be accepted – photocopies will not be accepted under any circumstances.

2. Have the affirmation translated into Thai

Once the affirmation has been signed, you will need to have it translated into Thai. The British Embassy does not undertake the preparation or translation of documents. Many reputable translation companies advertise on the internet as well as in the Thai local press, and there are a number of companies within a short walk of the Embassy. The Embassy is unable to recommend any particular firms.

3. Official’s signature and certification of the Thai translation. This must be obtained from:

The Legalisation Division
Department of Consular Affairs
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
123 Chaeng Wattana Road,
Laksi District, Bangkok 10210

Tel : +66 (0) 2 575 1056–59, 0 2981 7171
Fax : +66 (0) 2 575 1054
Email : consular04[at]mfa.go.th
(08:30 – 15:30 hrs)

A fee is payable. The service normally takes 2 working days, although it is possible to pay an express fee for a same day service.

4. Submit the document to the Registrar

The affirmation and translation are then ready for submission to the registrar, who, if satisfied, will register the marriage and issue a Thai marriage certificate

How to register a marriage

[good2bhappy]

the question should be is the lady married?

[PAG]

You have to fill out an affirmation. You pick up the completed copy the next day. If you say you're single there's no checking. As others have mentioned that might create problems for you in the future, especially if you ever want to bring your Missus to live in UK.

1. Affirmation of Freedom to Marry in Thailand

Retype the affirmation on one page, in the same format as the attached sample, and bring it in person to the Embassy to sign before a British Consular official.

We accept affirmations during normal working hours ( 08:00-11:00 and 13:00-15:15 Monday –Thursday and 08:00-12:00 on Friday ). It is not possible to make a prior appointment for this service. The completed affirmation will be ready for collection from the Embassy from 09:00 hrs on the following working day. We are not able to arrange a same day service for the collection of completed affirmations.
We charge Baht 3,074 per affirmation and can provide this service to British nationals only.
Please bring with you to the Embassy your passport and evidence that any previous marriages have been dissolved/terminated (death certificate or divorce certificate(s) as appropriate. Certificates issued in a third country outside UK and Thailand must be certified by the relevant British Embassy/Consulate or its respective Embassy in Thailand). Only the original evidence or a certified copy will be accepted – photocopies will not be accepted under any circumstances.

2. Have the affirmation translated into Thai

Once the affirmation has been signed, you will need to have it translated into Thai. The British Embassy does not undertake the preparation or translation of documents. Many reputable translation companies advertise on the internet as well as in the Thai local press, and there are a number of companies within a short walk of the Embassy. The Embassy is unable to recommend any particular firms.

3. Official’s signature and certification of the Thai translation. This must be obtained from:

The Legalisation Division
Department of Consular Affairs
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
123 Chaeng Wattana Road,
Laksi District, Bangkok 10210

Tel : +66 (0) 2 575 1056–59, 0 2981 7171
Fax : +66 (0) 2 575 1054
Email : consular04[at]mfa.go.th
(08:30 – 15:30 hrs)

A fee is payable. The service normally takes 2 working days, although it is possible to pay an express fee for a same day service.

4. Submit the document to the Registrar

The affirmation and translation are then ready for submission to the registrar, who, if satisfied, will register the marriage and issue a Thai marriage certificate

How to register a marriage

Again, there is a possibility that if you state you are divorced, the Embassy/Consul will require you to provide a copy of the decree. I've recently been through this process, and had to get a notarised copy of my Spanish divorce (obviously in Spanish), along with a notarised translation from Spanish to English. No doubt easier just to say you are single, and avoid the hassle.

[Thaihome]

If you say on the affirmation document you are divorced and the consulate takes your word (as at the US) the Amphur will still want to see a copy of the divorce papers. The best advice given is call the lawyer that handled it or get someone there to courier a certified copy to you. Would not recomend lying.
TH

[Jesus Jones]

the question should be is the lady married?

No, and neither is she a bar girl, nor does she want me to take care of her family. Her family don't want the sinsot either.

And for once, i'll be moving into her house!

[Jesus Jones]

The affirmation and translation are then ready for submission to the registrar, who, if satisfied, will register the marriage and issue a Thai marriage certificate
[/quote]How to register a marriage[/quote]

Thanks.

[blackgang]

No, and neither is she a bar girl, nor does she want me to take care of her family. Her family don't want the sinsot either. And for once, i'll be moving into her house!

Yea Buddy, same as me.

If you say on the affirmation document you are divorced and the consulate takes your word (as at the US) the Amphur will still want to see a copy of the divorce papers.

Amphur never wanted to see any of my divorce papers either, just like the embassy,, must be they think Yanks is more truthful than most. 555

[Thetyim]

have it notarised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) in Bangkok. Depending where you live, this can take up to 9 days

Same day service if you pay the express fee.

[Seekingasylum]

Are you seriously considering a false declaration?

Practising deception upon the MFA, the British embassy and the local Amphur in order to faciltate an invalid marriage thus condemning to failure any future visa application rather than obtaining a copy of the decree absolute from the Registry in London, a simple process unlikely to tax anyone with half a brain?

Oh dear. Presumably you work with your hands?

[Jesus Jones]

Are you seriously considering a false declaration?

Practising deception upon the MFA, the British embassy and the local Amphur in order to faciltate an invalid marriage thus condemning to failure any future visa application rather than obtaining a copy of the decree absolute from the Registry in London, a simple process unlikely to tax anyone with half a brain?

Oh dear. Presumably you work with your hands?

The only reason why i mentioned it was because i read somewhere, it may have been here, to mention that you are single to save the hassle. But since reading the posts, i phoned my mother to ask her about my divorce papers who coincidentally put them to one side knowing that i would need them.

Now that's what's mothers are for. Bless the old bag!

[Seekingasylum]

Indeed.

[Marmite the Dog]

Fuck 'em. You're not married, so even if they did find out you're divorced, so what?

[Missismiggins]

If you have to, you can get a copy of the divorce papers from the court where your marriage was annulled...I reckon you would get away with saying you were single for the purpose of getting married, but not sure if it would come back and bite your ass if you wanted to bring your Thai lady back to the UK, or what the situation would be if you had kids and wanted the UK passport.

I cannot recall anything that I was asked for that I couldn't produce, had I lied in the first instance...it seems like just another LEGAL pain in the ASS... imagine the shit Obahma will be going through? He can't even find his fucking BIRTH CERTIFICATE... nor can anyone else it would seem.

As for your divorce papers, why didn't you frame them like a diploma...I did!

[crazy dog]

They don't check the freedom to marry affirmation, don't mean shit as BG might say. Just make sure you do not fill it in by hand it HAS to be typed. When you go to the ministry in Laksi (if in Bkk)there is an amphure just up the road a couple of bus stops, the old cow will want a 'gift' for translating the same questions on the freedom to marry form if you can't speak Thai. I gave her 100 baht.

[Missismiggins]

They don't check the freedom to marry affirmation, don't mean shit as BG might say. Just make sure you do not fill it in by hand it HAS to be typed. When you go to the ministry in Laksi (if in Bkk)there is an amphure just up the road a couple of bus stops, the old cow will want a 'gift' for translating the same questions on the freedom to marry form if you can't speak Thai. I gave her 100 baht.

The word "Generous" springs to mind...maybe she will choke on her double helpings of noodles.

[crazy dog]

The guy next to us getting married gave her 500, he was arguing with his GF as she wanted to keep her name, we were arguing as mine wanted to change her name to mine, you just can't win! Maybe i should have swopped