It's hard to feel any sympathy. Drug mule in fight for life.

**0bsidian** · 03-01-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by spiff

I hope your generousity of spirit extends beyond your relative to others in similar predicaments.

nice point for many to consider.

DaffyDuck · 04-01-2009, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by bkkmadness

Most of the people involved in Cocaine are from upper class educated families, its a society drug used by upper levels of society far away from the heroin using junkie scum.

Disagree, all levels of society use coke or crack and it's very popular amongst the lower classes.

Cocaine is the great equalizer -- in so many ways.

Only bested by, maybe, meth.

**Loy Toy** · 04-01-2009, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by spiff

I hope your generousity of spirit extends beyond your relative to others in similar predicaments.

Tha pain and suffering my family has experienced will not be lost on only one poor soul(that being a blood relative).

There are many victims and when it comes to drug abuse and nobody suffers more than the innocent bystanders.

Why would you ask this question spiff? Have you had similar personal experiences?

Really your probing questions always dig deep but how deep can you go?

Care to share.........?

You also Obs! Why do you consider this point expressed by spiff so poignant? Love to here your feelings!

**spiff** · 05-01-2009, 09:11 PM

It wasn't a "deep" question.

It often happens that one gains insight and a differentiated understanding of what one would usually condemn wholesale, as many here have, when a friend or relative is involved.

Yes, I have had friends turn into unreliable, dishonest and unhinged characters through drugs or spend time in prison. Nothing quite as dramatic as the article or your relative's fate.

**barbaro** · 06-01-2009, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

You may have read that my cousin was convicted of his part in a drug haul and as a mule.

As I understand he was not going to profit from the assignment apart from the supply of an unknown amount of cocaine he would have for his own use.

He came from quite a wealthy family, his parents were both university lecturers and he went to some of the best schools in Sydney. No commercial reason to make extra money but got caught up in the drug scene and was lured and got caught in something he apparently could not get out of.

His wanton drug addiction led him to attempting his life changing experience.

Thanks for the info Loy Toy.

If your cousin wasn't profiting from it, and was smuggling it for his own use,

I do NOT classify him as a "mule."

Best of luck to him.

Can't see that. If he was smuggling a personal stash for his own use he would be a straightforward smuggler, not a mule in the smuggling context.

Otoh, LT, was it an 'unknown amount of cocaine he would have for his own use' because he wasn't sure how much he was carrying, though for his personal use, or because it was known the recipient, i.e. the person he was muling for, would pay him off with (an unknown amount of) coke, instead of cash?

I do not know your relative, but people from comfortable to obscenely wealthy backgrounds, are not excluded from making small to big money through drugs and other illegal activities, if only for the adrenalin flow.

OK, let's skip the semantics.

I am all for legalization and de-criminalization of drug possession (of a certain amount) and for sure, for druge usage.

But who gives a sh*t?

If you bring DRUGS across an INTERNATIONAL BORDER and/or you get caught,

Then that is YOUR F*CKING PROBLEM.

Then F*CK OFF! F*ck your webpage, and plea for help. Cry me a river.

Jesus Christ, it's that simple.

**keda** · 06-01-2009, 01:39 AM

I agree, though not so forcefully since I view some drugs laws as harsh, hypocritical, and unfair, mostly in regard to traditional soft drugs as against the wider spread falling under recreational drugs.

Ftr I was responding to your reasoning as to why he wasn't a mule.

**spiff** · 06-01-2009, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Milkman

Then F*CK OFF! F*ck your webpage, and plea for help. Cry me a river.

Eh?
Neither the couple from the article not LT's relative are pleading for help.

TD would be a waste of effort in this regard anyway.

**nedwalk** · 06-01-2009, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by November Rain

'Just Say No' talk when I'm back there for their wedding,

does this mean they,ll not get married and the piss up will be cancelled

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