Thread: my first attempt at an abstract oil painting.

just what any artist needs Ben, tips

anyway CMN, if you hang your paintings on your wall, I hope everyone likes them at home.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

i am curious as to how nooners is painting so many paintings though

they only take about 10 minutes each, havent you seen the elephant shows for tourists?

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

if i develop, that will be nice but i'm really not overly worried if I remain relatively crap.

luckily so.

^^
here's a question.

I'm doing this semi realistic self portrait based on this picture.

i've sketched it out roughly and put it in a bar setting.

what colour mix do you recommend for a darkish skin tone?

the picture is posed, I got my wife to take the picture specifically for a painting as a reminder of my alcoholic slumbers.




kingwilly, stick to drinking and playing bad cricket and fukk off out of my thread.

I very quickly sketched an outline with watered down acrylic.

forget the lamp and the bits on the wall, they'll be gone.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

semi realistic self portrait

The arms seem somewhat larger !!

Originally Posted by JoGeAr

The arms seem somewhat larger

should see my nude self porteait.

one is allowed to take liberties.

well dark skin is typically red blue mix with maybe some yellow a smidgen of white in the red, it depends on how refined your paints are, have you got a primary set or have you got specific colours?????

the best thing to do is buy a palette and mix first something white in colour to see what youve mixed clearly!

i would say that its worth plotting some composition, i know your probably enthusiastic to start, but i think if you look at the outline you can probably see what i mean!

I want to help i just dont want to tell you my position exactly because its your drawing your self portrait............i think you have to go through a few stages

1 planning take the pic and draw some very very rough ideas
2 combine these ideas into a composition like framing with a camera where is the figure, offset centered most likely as you have founf other smaller artifacts youll add when painting not before!!!
3 choose the right size canvas portrait or landscape and size
4 rough out if needed or following a rough sketch
5 go at it
6 stop at certain stages to think how its progressing it easier to change things like this, step back take in.
7 go at it again

you may find sometimes that you have messed up, and there is no turning around, in this instance do not throw away!!!!!!!! keep for another time ans start again, you would not believe how many times i have to do this, but i have others that i can come back to in different moods and change respectively!

enjoy it can become obsessive depending on your character but enthuse and enjoy and try to pick up on things by looking at other art, no necessarily abstract but a range to focus your senses to the picture.

when in chiangmai im happy to talk with you or go see some local work, wont be there for another 6 months at the moment though........

just remember keep going!

i just noticed your tattoo's i might do a thread as im heavily into designing them at the moment, but maybe just a thought as it popped into my head:

if your doing semi realistic thats also a retrospective drawing thats abstract a nice idea is that you could have your tattoo which looks like a dragon or thai lion maybe????? you could have it coming, almost peeling off your back shedding it or you could have it about to eat you for instance the tattoo maybe shows a more hedonistic time and what drinking was doing to you.....etc etc

sorry just an idea that i couldnt shake.......

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

for a darish skin tone?

what's a darish?

or do you mean darkish?







actually, I would advise NOT to use black, it is a very muddy and can be dirty shade to mix in with your colours.

If you want a darker colour skin tone mix in browns, and reds into your skin tones. Or even use a brown/red wash over the oil paint (when dried).

Originally Posted by Thetyim

i know this guy, he's a famous actor for a small human.. he was in 'lassie com home' and Ron Howards movie several years back 'Willow' it was.. If that ain't him? it is a certain likeness..I'm not talking about the star but a supporting actor.. he's been playing some more starring roles recently he even played a lawyer in the movie about a famous gangster on trial in the States.. there has to be some relation...

this is a rembrandt if im not mistaken so i doubt that you know him this liitle fella's been dead about 300 odd years............unless you can speak to the dead??????

Alot of painters dont use black but try to get as dark with blue as is possible, however in this context and with the fact you were using black chinese ink i see no reason as long as you dont mix it with other paints like king W said!!!!

Originally Posted by benlovesnuk

this is a rembrandt if im not mistaken so i doubt that you know him this liitle fella's been dead about 300 odd years............unless you can speak to the dead??????

did you read the rest of my post or just the part that you decided to pick out? did you decide just to ignore this part??

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

there has to be some relation...

^
a lot of midgets look the same.

i think he looks a lot like the miget actor from in Bruges....

Originally Posted by benlovesnuk

this is a rembrandt if im not mistaken

You are mistaken, though that probably comes as no great surprise. It's The Dwarf Don Sebastian de Morra by Velazquez.

I don't think so CMN to me they are far more distinct than other people because the features are exaggerated so much.. that's one of the guys but it's not the one I'm thinking of, i need to search later and find his picture you'll see, the resemblance is distinct..

Originally Posted by benlovesnuk

this is a rembrandt if im not mistaken

Sorry no

Diego Velázquez. A Dwarf Sitting on the Floor

The little fella might be Don Sebastián de Morra
painted about 1644


Edit,
Sorry Dan got there first

what about this one.

it's Peter Dinklage, fine midget thesp.

yep that's him, I was just putting this one up.. The one you posted was another one I almost posted..

striking resemblance.......is that first one Peter when he was younger? damn! it does look like him....

don't worry CMN, just keep painting and enjoying it

maybe not hang on the wall though, as others may not agree with your taste


others that live with you, that is

good stuff, I really like the nude, but I'm partial to big milks.

Can I commission you to paint a series of uni-girls portraits?

^^

I have the distinction of being the tallest midget in Buriram, maybe even in the whole of Thailand - who knows?

Originally Posted by Dan

Originally Posted by benlovesnuk

this is a rembrandt if im not mistaken

You are mistaken, though that probably comes as no great surprise. It's The Dwarf Don Sebastian de Morra by Velazquez.

ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh dannny boy.......................your a card!


i unlike you, can admit to being wrong! im sure i could have looked it up - however i was testing myself based on the painting! I was over confident in identifying some similar features oh well no need to worry. im not so serious as you!

velasquez is an interesting painter, though i dont have a lot of experience with his work!