Thread: Motorcycle talk

For a dirty road to be a factor , you'd first of all have to get the bike to turn. Instead of going almost 90 degree to the turn with almost no lean. Lol

Originally Posted by Backspin

That's what you think. But you'd be wrong.

Really? I'm wrong about the accidents I've seen and had?

Originally Posted by pickel

But that won't stop Backspin from thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

You're so fucking predictable.

Originally Posted by Backspin

For a dirty road to be a factor , you'd first of all have to get the bike to turn. Instead of going almost 90 degree to the turn with almost no lean. Lol

Holy fook!!

Did anyone else find that funny?

^ yeah. Its funny af. The bike keeps on going. He bails over the rail.

The guy was also borrowing his buddies bike and didn't have a motorcycle license. He must have really known how to take corners

Originally Posted by Backspin

Wet or dirty roads are never mentioned in the reports. Whatever.

Funnily enough, neither is countersteering or lack there of.

The sand/dirt/debris/wet/ roads are real and experienced by several posters in this thread that live here.

The countersteering is figment of your imagination from thousands of kilometers away .

Originally Posted by Backspin

^ yeah. Its funny af. The bike keeps on going. He bails over the rail.

The guy was also borrowing his buddies bike and didn't have a motorcycle license. He must have really known how to take corners

And the news article blame target fiaxtion... not countersteering.

This thread has become pointless. Its just Backtrack skiddy trying to prove one point from one gif and that's how all motorcycle accidents happen. I bet if you look at his moto, the tires aren't even scuffed on the sides and probably still have the tire mold tits on them.

^ He rides the fucking bike right off the road! Are you blind? He doesn't even get it to turn

Originally Posted by Troy

A little unfair as even the slightest mistake can make someone look stupid. I couldn't find the full video on rnickeymouse but have seen quite a bit of footage he has taken on Muholland snake, CA and quite a few of the accidents. This one looks like the back end has stepped out either due to bumps in the road or rider using too much rear brake. The bend probably tightened more than he expected and he went in a little too hot. The foot off the peg is last ditch reaction to counter the slide.

Accident has nothing to do with a lack of counter steering.

Facepalm. The back end only steps out after he crosses the white line. He , did , not, counter, steer, and therefore, didn't, lean. Plus the gif makes it look like he's going way faster than he actually is.

Originally Posted by Backspin

the gif makes it look like he's going way faster than he actually is.

GIFs must be a weak way of backing up a point if they can be so misleading.

Here's what a crash looks like from a rider that knows what he's doing, and just has the bike slide out from under him because of tires or road. It has zero resemblance to the gif crashes posted.


Slow motion at 2:45

I wouldn't blame tires or road on that occasion

Perhaps it's the car's fault!

He doesn't know what he's doing - or he wouldn't have slid out - has out-ridden his own capabilities.

Originally Posted by Stumpy

Well Gee. that's a nice conflict of moto's to ride 150cc and a 1000cc.

Yeah, with 2 mid-sized twins, adding a third as a project bike, it would need to be something completely different.

Either an easy to work on 150cc 2-stroke, or a more complex 1000cc inline four both tick that box.


Will probably just stick to me Lego though, to be honest.

Mainly due to:

Getting bone idle lazy in me old age.
Not having any idea how they actually work or fit together.

Originally Posted by Simon43

Bought a cheap ($275 USD) bike today for riding between my home/Kuang Si waterfalls/Luang Prabang town. It's a 150cc ZingZang (or whatever fcukwit Chinese name) with Vietnamese plates that was bought in Cambodia and ridden over to Laos. Seems to run OK, needs a check on the flasher light electrics. Has new tyres etc.

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By the way, whatever happened to 1-down-4-up gear changes? These bikes all seem to have 1-down-2-down-3.....and when you get to 5-down then keep going to neutral and then start again from 1! Like a merry-go-round

So it isn't called a Honda ? The stator cover says Honda on it. Maybe it is a Chinese knock off

Originally Posted by Stumpy

Been on a few rides on Koh Chang ( Scooter) and even those can be a handful underneath those heavily shaded areas after a rain and the road is slick. Did a couple of wash outs but saved it.



Well Gee. that's a nice conflict of moto's to ride 150cc and a 1000cc.



While Backtrack Skiddy rides, he doesn't really know fuk all about it. He is one of those weekend warrior types. Rides on and off but thinks he knows it all.


I have found blazing around the mountains up here in Lampang that there are numerous variables that cause a rider to take a dive. One thing I find to be the biggest is the sand and gravel residue left behind by dump trucks and usually in corners as they are typically filled to high and when they go along the roads and turn in the corners they spill out the excess. That and heavily shaded roads after a rain. The water is still there and it can cause a good ass pucker when you feel the moto sliding out only to save it and have a good tank slap recovering.

Back in the states I had a riding buddy die on a moto trip we were on to Las Vegas as he drifted a bit to the shoulder and caught some gravel and sand and the bike just went right out from underneath him and it was over. We were probably clipping 85mph.

I stated from the beginning that I am talking about all the news reports of single bike accidents involving tourists. And typically, they aren't just laying the bike over. We can see that with the kind of damage to the bike and the injuries.

They are riding right into things. Like poles, oncoming motorcycles or cars, curbs and pretty much anything you can find on the side of a road. And that is where the nasty injuries and hospital bill come from. Laying a bike over, scrubs off speed and usually, as you fall you are away from the bike. And you get up and dust yourself off. But when you ride right into a pole or another vehicle, you are going to get badly injured.

Here's a picture of the truck that killed the late Luc Bourdon on a nice sunny day. That doesn't happen when you lay a bike over because your tire lost traction

Originally Posted by Backspin

I stated from the beginning that I am talking about all the news reports of single bike accidents involving tourists. And typically, they aren't just laying the bike over. We can see that with the kind of damage to the bike and the injuries.

Here is Clip from your OP.....

Originally Posted by Backspin

Motorcycle talk
What you own, what you want to get, what you had. Post it here.

In a different thread, the subject of motorcycles came up and it is just more appropriate to have a thread rather than carry on there.

Not once from the "beginning" did you state this thread would be full of accident gifs and vids and a discussion on counter steering and why it causes all the wrecks and that you are right and everybody is wrong.

I think many thought like I did, this was a thread to discuss your motorcycle and what you have, why, where you ride etc.

Anyway, carry on with your gif and accident reviews.

Originally Posted by Backspin

So it isn't called a Honda ? The stator cover says Honda on it. Maybe it is a Chinese knock off

Ya reckon?

Originally Posted by BLD

Ya reckon?

It is more likely a legit Honda/China collaboration than a knockoff with Honda stamped on the cover.

India used to make copies of jap moterbikes.

Is it a Hero Honda ?

Has anyone mentioned counter steering lately?

^ Rumour has it that this was the cause of the Titanic sub disaster.

The lack of counter steering was fatal.

* Apologies that I do not have a GIF as proof.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

going on and on about his new favourite biking expression.

Yep, sand, gravel and slick roads when they are wet, i came off on Koh Chang doing 30 kph on a slight wet curved downhill it was lethal with the first rains of the season and the oil film on the road.

And how many bones did you break ? How long did you spend in the hospital ? Did you just take the bike to a metal recycler ?

If these were just slide-outs, they would not be making the news. These are bad accidents with bad injures and death. Because they are riding into poles, curbs , signs and oncoming traffic ; on the bike.

Originally Posted by helge

India used to make copies of jap moterbikes.

I was offered a Chinese copy of an R6 while in China, but politely passed on the offer.

Speaking of which (and Skiddy had an R6 before) Benelli used the older R6 engine in their 600i model. Absolute bullet proof engine and the sound is.... well, probably the best sounding bike around.



The twin undertail exhausts, pure porn.
The face, easily modded.

Was looking at buying one but didn't for two reasons.

1. It weighs a tonne. More than 230kg. (inline 4 CBR650 is around 215kg, Ninja 650 twin-cyl around 195kg) and I was living in the mountainous north at the time.

2. As with MG cars, I absolutely hate when a Chinese company purchases the brand name and logo of a respected dead company, then puts it on their Chinese vehicles with Union Jacks and Italian flags all over it to pretend they're actually the classic British or Italian brand.

Originally Posted by prawnograph

I wouldn't blame tires or road on that occasion

Perhaps it's the car's fault!

He doesn't know what he's doing - or he wouldn't have slid out - has out-ridden his own capabilities.

He didn't counter steer.