Thread: Motorcycle talk

Originally Posted by prawnograph

From the archive - NZ days - 2006 Triumph Speed Four 600

Security with a happy face more interested in chasing the football


Central north island mountains
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It was new tyre day; don't waste the old one

I tried smoking off the old tires on my 660 Raptor. And the tires didn't really want to smoke. They spun but not much smoke..I had to add some engine oil. Maybe that was because it was an off road compound. You didn't add any oil or anything eh

Well in all honesty, you have to be a bit of a dickhead to fuck it up on a straight road.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Might have been in the game for a parachute on this one.

It kinda looks like he's parachuting but I think he's just thinking of bailing off the bike.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Yeah. And in most of these single bike accidents we see in Thailand involving tourists , they are explicitly described as happening in curves. And I don't think it's a very big mystery what is going on.

Sand and gravel on the outside of the lane causes more accidents than counter steering.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Sand and gravel on the outside of the lane causes more accidents than counter steering.

Fuck you it does. I can post clips and clips of wipeouts where it is obvious that sand and gravel isn't a factor

Oh yeah Pickel. Look at all the gravel on the road

I’d say sand and gravel is the biggest factor on Koh Samui.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

I’d say sand and gravel is the biggest factor on Koh Samui.

Most of the single rider accidents I've seen in Thailand, and a couple I've had personally, are due to that. But that won't stop Backspin from thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

Originally Posted by pickel

that won't stop Backspin from

going on and on about his new favourite biking expression.

Yep, sand, gravel and slick roads when they are wet, i came off on Koh Chang doing 30 kph on a slight wet curved downhill it was lethal with the first rains of the season and the oil film on the road.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Here's another one. He cant even begin to get the bike to turn. He just rides it right into the rail. If you cant even start turning the bike, how could you possibly say that speed was the cause of the accident ? Counter steering and leaning is relevant at anything over 15 km/h. And this guy didn't know it.

But in the aftermath, obviously people will think we had another Valentino Rossi here, who went way too fast around the curve. Bikes are dangerous, don't you know..

That guy looks like a total noob. He hasn't even got his feet on the footpegs.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Yep, sand, gravel and slick roads when they are wet, i came off on Koh Chang doing 30 kph on a slight wet curved downhill it was lethal with the first rains of the season and the oil film on the road.

There are two nasty hill curves on Koh Chang that I have left skin on, and was even going slower than you. One between the ferry and White Sand Beach, and the other between Kai Bae and Lonely Beach. Both with fresh rain following a drought. Slick as fuck.

^ yep, can't touch the breaks and still went engine breaking and bit of front. It has literally just started raining. Lesson learnt on those koh chang roads. Never go in the rainy season.

^ I thought you struggle topping up antifreeze

It would need a test rider, if you're around Mike.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

I’d say sand and gravel is the biggest factor on Koh Samui.

Pattaya too.

Originally Posted by pickel

There are two nasty hill curves on Koh Chang

Been on a few rides on Koh Chang ( Scooter) and even those can be a handful underneath those heavily shaded areas after a rain and the road is slick. Did a couple of wash outs but saved it.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Maybe an old SP 2-smoker, or Gixxer 1000 inline 4.

Well Gee. that's a nice conflict of moto's to ride 150cc and a 1000cc.

Originally Posted by pickel

But that won't stop Backspin from thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.

While Backtrack Skiddy rides, he doesn't really know fuk all about it. He is one of those weekend warrior types. Rides on and off but thinks he knows it all.


I have found blazing around the mountains up here in Lampang that there are numerous variables that cause a rider to take a dive. One thing I find to be the biggest is the sand and gravel residue left behind by dump trucks and usually in corners as they are typically filled to high and when they go along the roads and turn in the corners they spill out the excess. That and heavily shaded roads after a rain. The water is still there and it can cause a good ass pucker when you feel the moto sliding out only to save it and have a good tank slap recovering.

Back in the states I had a riding buddy die on a moto trip we were on to Las Vegas as he drifted a bit to the shoulder and caught some gravel and sand and the bike just went right out from underneath him and it was over. We were probably clipping 85mph.

Speaking of motorcycles, anyone ridden the Kawi W800? Looks like a nice cruiser type moto I saw the murdered black one the other day parked. Looked pretty nice.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

going on and on about his new favourite biking expression.

Yep, sand, gravel and slick roads when they are wet, i came off on Koh Chang doing 30 kph on a slight wet curved downhill it was lethal with the first rains of the season and the oil film on the road.

Oil film after light rain is a big problem and oil in general. I remember turning left at a T intersection at about 15 kph and an oil film on the road made the front wheel slide straight out and i was on my ass. Luckily no damage to me and minimal on the bike due to the low speed.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Competent riders who go fast aren't the problem.

Competent riding or competent thinking ?

If you do not factor in giant potholes, dogs, loose buffalos, road rollers parked on the freeway with only a branch as warning, idiots that very unexpected go faster than you, uturns,drivers who signal one way and turns the other, drunks and other traffic then yes; competent drivers can go fast and safe in Thailand.

Good luck

I'd recommend you to get your steam off on a racetrack.

Originally Posted by Stretchy

That guy looks like a total noob. He hasn't even got his feet on the footpegs.

A little unfair as even the slightest mistake can make someone look stupid. I couldn't find the full video on rnickeymouse but have seen quite a bit of footage he has taken on Muholland snake, CA and quite a few of the accidents. This one looks like the back end has stepped out either due to bumps in the road or rider using too much rear brake. The bend probably tightened more than he expected and he went in a little too hot. The foot off the peg is last ditch reaction to counter the slide.

Accident has nothing to do with a lack of counter steering.