Global Warming - I Was Wrong

**Robski** · 23-11-2007, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by Robski

You're just so fucking sad. You totally lost this argument already when you where Clockwork Orange so now you've changed your name and your coming out with all the same old bullshit and starting it over again. Get a life or I'll just have to show you up again wankstain.

robski that was a foking fantastic contribution and analasys on global warming, jees, you really are a foking wanker aint you, you couldn't contribute to the thread so you throw some abuse, maybe best you fok off back to your fok buddys on tv or whatever.

Go fuck yourself you bitter old fart, you lot wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face.
I only come here to watch you lot make idiots of yourselves, you're all kiddy fiddlers, closet racists, jakies and inbred retards. Thick twats.
Red this u fucking saddo...

**dirtydog** · 23-11-2007, 02:53 AM

enjoy your jail time robski, dont think jarvis is up for it tonite though.

**dirtydog** · 23-11-2007, 03:03 AM

Robski, there is a good chance that i am younger than you you sad old fok

**Silent Orchestra** · 23-11-2007, 03:19 AM

Robski's flipped

I love watching people have a mental breakdown on-line.

**Hootad Binky** · 23-11-2007, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

Turns out, a few hundred million years ago, the whole planet was like a giant snowball.

A few hundred million years ago was the time of the dinosaurs; didn't realise they were adapted for snow!

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

Everything was covered in ice & snow. This reflected the heat back towards the Sun, so there was no way for the planet to warm itself up. Cutting a long story short, volcanos erupting co2 into the atmosphere caused the planet to heat up & life, as we know it today, flourishes.

Life was flourishing billions of years before the time you've described.

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

The planet went from -50 to +50 in just a couple of hundred years (the most extreme climate change this planet has ever known) & all the ice melted into the oceans.

Link/timeline, please ^.

As the above graph shows, warming/cooling periods are cyclical.

However, Co2 levels have never been this high. Can you find a graph with Co2 levels higher than they are now? Because every time C02 goes up, so does temperature.

**Silent Orchestra** · 23-11-2007, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

A few hundred million years ago was the time of the dinosaurs

I think that was sixty million, Hootad.

Life was flourishing billions of years before the time you've described

Not the life I'm talking about, with lungs & hearts & stuff. You're talking about coral & such.

Link/timeline

I said at the beginning, this was a show I watched on the telly. It was called Planet Earth & was on the BBC, so there may be a link to be found, I'll have a look.

every time C02 goes up, so does temperature

I know. That's where I admit I was wrong previously. What I'm saying now is that we don't produce enough co2 to cause a big problem. If we wasn't producing co2 we'd have a lot bigger problem than if we - potentially - have now.

**Hootad Binky** · 23-11-2007, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

A few hundred million years ago was the time of the dinosaurs

I think that was sixty million, Hootad.

300 Million Years ago Earth 300 my ago Gondwanaland Invertebrates Free From Water Reptiles Seed Plants
250 Million Years ago Dinosaurs Earth 250 My ago
200 Million Years ago Earth 200 my ago Fruiting Plants Invertebrate Reproduction Mammals
150 Million Years ago Birds Earth 150 my ago
100 Million Years ago Earth 100 my ago
65 Million Years ago Meteorite
50 Million Years ago Earth 50 my ago Grasses Horse Family Primates Spread of mammals
40 Million Years ago Cow Family
3 Million Years ago Homo Erectus Recent Ice Age
700 Thousand Years ago Fire
200 Thousand Years ago Neanderthals
100 Thousand Years ago People

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

Life was flourishing billions of years before the time you've described

Not the life I'm talking about, with lungs & hearts & stuff. You're talking about coral & such.

See above!

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

Link/timeline

I said at the beginning, this was a show I watched on the telly. It was called Planet Earth & was on the BBC, so there may be a link to be found, I'll have a look.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring..." Alexander Pope

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**Silent Orchestra** · 23-11-2007, 04:30 AM

^

Mankind (homoerectus) was not on this planet 300 million years ago.

As for the dinosaurs, you're right, they were wiped out 60 million years ago - I blame Global Warming

Here's a link (I think) to the program I watched.

BBC - Science & Nature - Planet Earth

**Hootad Binky** · 23-11-2007, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

Mankind (homoerectus) was not on this planet 300 million years ago

Never said they were!

Originally Posted by Silent Orchestra

As for the dinosaurs, you're right, they were wiped out 60 million years ago - I blame Global Warming

Nope: global chilling caused by an asteroid impact.

**Ivor Biggun** · 23-11-2007, 07:11 AM

I believe we do add to the problem with pollution but I still believe that volcanic activity is the biggest cause of co2 emissions.

**November Rain** · 23-11-2007, 07:22 AM

Unfortunately (!) I can't watch a lot of these videos everyone's linking to (crappy dial-up's too slow). But reading these arguments and remembering some things I have read on the subject brings to mind that old chestnut about "lies, damn lies and statistics". I think either side can find statistics to back up whatever the hell they want to say.

I do think, personally, we are having an effect on global warming. Even if we're not, but we cut down on 'mankind-caused' carbon emissions, would that be a bad thing? Surely cutting down would give a win-win situation, whatever the truth? It would save some of our fossil fuels for a start...

**Jet Gorgon** · 23-11-2007, 07:27 AM

Mother Earth will let us know when she has had enough, NR. And then the power-mongering minions will do some more genocides and we'll be alright, as long as the nukes don't start falling. But, I think the nukes will fall...

**Silent Orchestra** · 23-11-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I think the nukes will fall

I tried to give you a green but I have to make this post instead.

We can 'save the planet' as much as we like, but the whole thing is wired to explode at the push of a button & some day, somebody will press it.

**mrsquirrel** · 23-11-2007, 08:20 AM

Increased in China's population means an increase in rice farming which in turn means a huge increase in methane released into the atmosphere.

More methane than cows can fart.

Blame the rice eating nations for not knowing about the withdrawl method.

**kingwilly** · 23-11-2007, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by watterinja

Gore's presentation is fine & very compelling.

so was Oliver Stones movie about JKF's assassination by the CIA....

doesn't make it correct though.

**Dalton** · 23-11-2007, 08:53 AM

Global warming is a fact and there need to be taken action against it, the ones who close there eyes and only think about economic growth are indeed very naive. Another very important factor is our oceans, people are screwing up the biological system to the extreme, taking for granted that it all will rebuild itself...WRONG... That aint gonna happen..I have said this before, and I will keep saying it. Greed will be the down-fall for man-kind, we are our own worst enemy.

**Frankenstein** · 23-11-2007, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Increased in China's population means an increase in rice farming which in turn means a huge increase in methane released into the atmosphere.

More methane than cows can fart.

Blame the rice eating nations for not knowing about the withdrawl method.

China's controversial one child policy worked rather well for a while, in terms of curbing the population increase.

You want to blame people for lack of birth control, maybe start with the Subcontinentals.

**November Rain** · 23-11-2007, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Dalton

Global warming is a fact and there need to be taken action against it, the ones who close there eyes and only think about economic growth are indeed very naive. Another very important factor is our oceans, people are screwing up the biological system to the extreme, taking for granted that it all will rebuild itself...WRONG... That aint gonna happen..I have said this before, and I will keep saying it. Greed will be the down-fall for man-kind, we are our own worst enemy.

Tried to green you for this, but as always, need to spread the love. This last sentence sums it up exactly, for me.

**Hootad Binky** · 23-11-2007, 09:41 AM

I think the damage has been done; you can't reverse 150 years of grotesque air pollution with a hybrid car or some solar panels, imho.

**November Rain** · 23-11-2007, 09:49 AM

^You're probably right, but that doesn't mean that there should be no damage limitation.

**mrsquirrel** · 23-11-2007, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

so was Oliver Stones movie about JKF's assassination by the CIA.... doesn't make it correct though.

I was assassinated by the CIA once.

**PlanK** · 23-11-2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

That's a lovely graph, I see the global warming activists are not against a good bit of data distortion to prove things.

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

Because every time C02 goes up, so does temperature.

The graph in Al Gore's docu show the real stats. Every time temperature goes up so does CO2, not the other way round. Someone has moved the axis for either the temp or CO2 on that graph.

**AntRobertson** · 23-11-2007, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by watterinja

Gore's presentation is fine & very compelling.

so was Oliver Stones movie about JKF's assassination by the CIA....

doesn't make it correct though.

That's a pretty fatuous comparison to be drawing.

Weather you agree with it or not Gore's work is based on interpretation of scientific data. You don't even have to agree with the interpretations and conclusions made but the one thing you can't dispute is the data itself.

Therefore a comparison such as you've made above is pointless. If you're going to dispute it do it on the same basis - scientific data - otherwise it's completely meaningless. Even worse, it's unhelpful.

**ChiangMai noon** · 23-11-2007, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Weather you agree with it or not Gore's work is based on interpretation of scientific data. You don't even have to agree with the interpretations and conclusions made but the one thing you can't dispute is the data itself.

likewise Duesberg's hiv to aids hypothesis.

**Dalton** · 23-11-2007, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

I think the damage has been done; you can't reverse 150 years of grotesque air pollution with a hybrid car or some solar panels, imho.

You are right, but we might be able to buy some extra time by changing energy source, and hope the clever people can find a way to reverse the damage there have been done.

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