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    Eat BEEF!

    Picture later

    I don't (for the most part) but everyone else should

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Life long vegetarian so I should be okay.

    I think a far greater determinant of the development of dementia is brain usage. Keep your brain active, think creatively and take on endeavours that keep the brain involved and you're ahead of the game. Spend a lifetime sitting on the couch and watching t.v. and your a good candidate for dementia. The society which we live in generally speaking (in terms of employment in particular) really involves people turning off their thought processes and pretty much functioning as robots, that's a recipe for dementia) To some extent it's pretty much up to individual choices.

    thanks for that advice Dr.Russ.

    dementia is a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy John View Post
    So repeater must get through a *lot* of it. Perhaps whole pigs.
    Demented fools!! everyone knows that eating figs is healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post

    I think a far greater determinant of the development of dementia is brain usage.
    Brain usage and development will give you what they call cognitive reserve, and help a lot to alleviate the development of certain types of dementia for some time, but it will not prevent it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Eating Bacon increases risk of Dementia say scientists
    Wondering what some politicians do eat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wondering what some politicians do eat...
    Wondering about the irony in how you managed to fuck that quote up.

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    Man, Bacon is outstanding. Good Hickory smoked, thick sliced. All you guys out there passing up on good tasting foods because some report says something and you hope you will live a few years longer by not eating it. Silly stuff. Have a fat 200 day aged Ribeye steak off the grill. Add crumbled bacon on your salad. knock back a good Whiskey afterwards.

    I just had a quite delicious BLT sammy the other day.

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    Eating processed meats such as bacon
    I guess it wouldn't induce such rile if the heading was 'Eating processed meats increases risk of dementia'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I'm not being critical of bacon consumers. I know people who will would die for bacon, I just don't have any appetite for it myself. I seriously doubt whether bacon consumption has anything to do with the development of dementia.
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    Whew. Bet all those trained scientists are feeling pretty foolish right around now. Who knew that all they had to do was ask a failed English as a second language teacher and not actually conduct studies involving nearly half a million people.

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    ^good thought.

    Although, we may have to test run that

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Whew. Bet all those trained scientists are feeling pretty foolish right around now. Who knew that all they had to do was ask a failed English as a second language teacher and not actually conduct studies involving nearly half a million people.
    I try my best. No sacrifice is to much if it benefits the overall health of peoplekind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    we may have to test run that
    Hell Edmond there probably wouldn't be any point in a test run after all ^ ^ ^ .

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    ^ 3 replies in a row, including quoting yourself.


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    Vegetarianism causes dementia.

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    Demented patients are attracted to Veganism.

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    Lettuces are trained killers in disguise.....

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    ^ & ^^ is this a twist on the Advanced Acronym thread.
    Last edited by strigils; 23-03-2021 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Reminds me of the butter is bad for you episode, and eggs are bad episode and...etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    And the decaf era.
    Is gluten okay again yet or is that still out?
    Exactly.

    Every country has variations of the phrase, "processed meat". Some eat a high % others do not.

    Fast food, grubdump, supermarket packaged complete meals, street food ....

    Meat consumption and risk of incident dementia: cohort study of 493,888 UK Biobank participants


    The study suggests:

    "Results

    Among 493,888 participants included, 2896 incident cases of all-cause dementia, 1006 cases of AD, and 490 cases of VD were identified, with mean ± SD follow-up of 8 ± 1.1 y.

    Each additional 25 g/day intake of processed meat was associated with increased risks of incident all-cause dementia (HR: 1.44; 95% CI: 1.24, 1.67; P-trend < 0.001) and AD (HR: 1.52; 95% CI: 1.18, 1.96; P-trend = 0.001).

    In contrast, a 50-g/d increment in unprocessed red meat intake was associated with reduced risks of all-cause dementia (HR: 0.81; 95% CI: 0.69, 0.95; P-trend = 0.011) and AD (HR: 0.70; 95% CI: 0.53, 0.92; P-trend = 0.009). The linear trend was not significant for unprocessed poultry and total meat. Regarding incident VD, there were no statistically significant linear trends identified, although for processed meat, higher consumption categories were associated with increased risks.

    The APOE ε4 allele increased dementia risk by 3 to 6 times but did not modify the associations with diet significantly.

    Conclusion

    These findings highlight processed-meat consumption as a potential risk factor for incident dementia, independent of the APOE ε4 allele."

    Search Results | The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition | Oxford Academic

    Solution:

    Reduce intake of "processed meat".

    Whatever you decide that is. Personally my intake of processed "meat" definition is:

    Salami
    Bacon
    Ham
    Smoked fish
    Anchovies in olive oil,

    My intake of unprocessed "meat" is:

    Chicken breast
    Pork tenderloin and spare rib
    Beef steak
    Fresh fish

    One also should review what "feeds", processed and natural, the sources eat along with the various spices/powders/sauces which are added during the cooking.

    Are cheeses considered to be "processed"?
    Last edited by OhOh; 23-03-2021 at 01:32 PM.
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    I believe it's put down to the sodium nitrite used in the curing process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Vegetarianism causes dementia.
    *Generalization Alert*

    There have certainly been a few vegetarians here on TD that tend more toward the demented side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    *Generalization Alert*

    There have certainly been a few vegetarians here on TD that tend more toward the demented side.
    Vegetarianism also causes irratibility and SADs.

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    That could be a reference to either Karen or xanax... Which underscores the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Reduce intake of "processed meat".

    Whatever you decide that is. Personally my intake of processed "meat" definition is:

    Salami
    Bacon
    Ham
    Smoked fish
    Anchovies in olive oil,

    My intake of unprocessed "meat" is:

    Chicken breast
    Pork tenderloin and spare rib
    Beef steak
    Fresh fish
    I eat all of that (sans the anchovies).....in moderation of course but will never stop. One thing that they never say or recommend is Moderation. They just post results and then say some stupid nonsense to some how validate their findings and like most of the information nowadays they sell fear coupled with some XXX university in XXX country did a study of 1200 people and the this is what the results show. It is statistically insignificant and quite frankly the study was a complete waste of time.


    In many ways, everything we eat is processed to some degree or another unless you walk out, kill that pig and then go to your garden and pick those veggies. However the question then is, what did you feed your pig?

    As for Vegetarians...to each their own. I know quite a few committed Vegetarians. Most I cannot be around because you can't go anywhere with them as they order a meal and they have a list of shit they will not eat and its embarrassing to watch that poor waiter have to write it all down knowing that something will be wrong when it hits the table.

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    ...and its embarrassing to watch that poor waiter have to write it all down knowing that something will be wrong when it hits the table.
    So just offer them an apple.....can't go wrong with that!

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    Er, the "scientists" quoted in the OP as reported in the Septic journal are in fact a Leeds university cohort under the guidance of a professor who herself stated they are not positing a finding but were simply laying the ground for a hypothesis.

    Also, of those in the study group who consumed sodium nitrate in their diet, in the form of processed meats etc, and were later diagnosed as suffering from dementia, most, if not all, were lower class ditch-digging lumpen oiks who smoked and drank to excess. Essentially, the bedrock of the lower end of Western society which are also addicted to carbohydrates and lumps of fat in fast food regimes.

    Quite why they picked on one rasher of bacon as a cause of dementia is a mystery. Really, it would have been more enlightening and accurate if they were to say that if you voted to Brexit or for Trump then the odds are that you will be bouncing off the walls in later life if not already.

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