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  • Like them.

    5 15.15%
  • Hate them.

    1 3.03%
  • Respect them.

    3 9.09%
  • Trust them

    0 0%
  • Distrust them

    12 36.36%
  • Love thier Culture

    2 6.06%
  • Wish I had stayed at home

    2 6.06%
  • Think the 'Smiles are really 'Sneers' mostly.

    8 24.24%
  • Realise they hate our guts, but love our money.

    12 36.36%
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    Are all the option negative?

    Like them.
    Respect them.
    Trust them.
    Love their culture.

    There are nine total so nearly half are not negative. Most of the people just choose the negative answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali kid View Post
    Are all the option negative?

    Like them.
    Respect them.
    Trust them.
    Love their culture.

    There are nine total so nearly half are not negative. Most of the people just choose the negative answers.
    Thanks Cali. You at least have not jumped to stupid conclusions like some I could mention.

    Looking back over my long life, I can see that I often made the big mistake of being too trusting.........a classic example is when I allowed my
    closest relative to con me out of 100000quid!

    Won't bore you with the sordid details.

    So perhaps if one has to choose between being too trusting and distrusting people. It's far safer I suggest to select the former.

    Stories of Farangs being 'Cleaned out' financially, 'cos they trusted Thais are legion. Nuff said.

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    They are the same as most people,95%are ok,5%are shit.I do like Thai culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger
    The weather
    I believe you, Rigger.
    But others might have, ahem, 'deeper' reasons.
    yeah, mine are the weather, shagging plenty girls and cheap cost of living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Same everywhere. Some good, nice, bad, and evil.
    Totally agree, but they're all as thick as pig-shit, even the so-called 'educated ones'.
    I don't find that to be true at all... what does irritate me is that otherwise intelligent and educated people will keep quiet when brainless idiots spout shit, just because the brainless idiots happen to be older or rank higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenstein View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Same everywhere. Some good, nice, bad, and evil.
    Totally agree, but they're all as thick as pig-shit, even the so-called 'educated ones'.
    I don't find that to be true at all... what does irritate me is that otherwise intelligent and educated people will keep quiet when brainless idiots spout shit, just because the brainless idiots happen to be older or rank higher.

    are you talking about Marmite and his stupid post you quoted?

    I know many intelligent Thais, as well as many stupid ones

    as for trusting Thais, I find that I am very careful about whom to trust, but have found many I can trust

    but maybe that is also true in Europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    I know many intelligent Thais, as well as many stupid ones

    as for trusting Thais, I find that I am very careful about whom to trust, but have found many I can trust

    but maybe that is also true in Europe
    Change Europe to the US and i agree with the Dr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger
    The weather
    I believe you, Rigger.
    But others might have, ahem, 'deeper' reasons.
    yeah, mine are the weather, shagging plenty girls and cheap cost of living.
    Easy to please, good for you.
    Hang on, the part about "shagging plenty girls" you didn't seem too happy about before...the girl also liked shagging plenty of guys or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    Hang on, the part about "shagging plenty girls" you didn't seem too happy about before...the girl also liked shagging plenty of guys or something?
    Well that depends on whether the girl is open and says she wants to see other guys as well. I have no problems with "open" type relationships here. With so many fruit on the shelves, its shame to have to taste the same one everyday, isnt it?

    I just dont like being lied to and manipulated, which is my main gripe with Thai's and a few farangs I met along the way here also.
    Originally Posted by Smeg
    ... I like to fantasise sometimes, and I lie very occasionally... my superior home, job, wealth, freedom, car, girl, retirement age, appearance, satisfaction with birth country etc etc... Over the past few years I have put together over 100 pages on notes on thaiophilia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenstein View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Same everywhere. Some good, nice, bad, and evil.
    Totally agree, but they're all as thick as pig-shit, even the so-called 'educated ones'.
    I don't find that to be true at all... what does irritate me is that otherwise intelligent and educated people will keep quiet when brainless idiots spout shit, just because the brainless idiots happen to be older or rank higher.
    It's what the 'so-called intellectuals' do when an idea crosses their path, that defines their intellectual stature.

    A case in point. Thailand's leading university elects not to allow an Indian Professor to mentor a project. Main reason: Thais are better than Indians - we don't want to lose face.

    The Indian happens to be currently mentoring 12 Indians, 4 foreigners - Australia, Japan, UK, SA. He is one of the top names in the world of aeronautics.

    The dominant reason the Thais didn't really want him, however, was that he understood the topic - they could not. Period.

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    [quote=Luckydog;437655]
    Quote Originally Posted by cali kid View Post
    Stories of Farangs being 'Cleaned out' financially, 'cos they trusted Thais are legion. Nuff said.
    Trust had nothing to do with it.
    For most of them, I would call it "pussy blinded"...

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    [quote=Bluecat;437867]
    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cali kid View Post
    Stories of Farangs being 'Cleaned out' financially, 'cos they trusted Thais are legion. Nuff said.
    Trust had nothing to do with it.
    For most of them, I would call it "pussy blinded"...
    Did ya read about the Farang who sent 17m Bht over here to his 'Future wife's Bangkok Bank account, so that they could buy a house and live happily ever after, and when he got here she told him to piss off!.

    He trusted her. Foolishly it's true, but he thought she was trustworthy.......

    They don't call us "Stupid Farangs" for nothing.

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    I never thought about the future wife/house/family thing, but I have began to do business with Thais, professionals, contractors. Dealing with things that these people make there living at. And to be honest with you, you can trust a BKK working girl to give you what you pay for more than these pieces of work..
    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
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    I thank you gents for what are mainly very good points indeed.

    So I think we should all go back home. Don't you ?

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    [quote=Luckydog;437888]
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cali kid View Post
    Stories of Farangs being 'Cleaned out' financially, 'cos they trusted Thais are legion. Nuff said.
    Trust had nothing to do with it.
    For most of them, I would call it "pussy blinded"...
    Did ya read about the Farang who sent 17m Bht over here to his 'Future wife's Bangkok Bank account, so that they could buy a house and live happily ever after, and when he got here she told him to piss off!.

    He trusted her.
    Indeed, and I stand by my "statement"...
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    I think some of you should take a step back and look at how immigrant communities are treated in your own countries before you start criticising the Thais. The UK for instance supposedly is proud of their multicultural society and has a tradition of integration. Trouble is, in reality we never trusted or liked the Jews, then the Jamacans, then the Indians, now the Eastern European gipsys and the Muslims. Come to that the Welsh, Scots, and Irish are a rum lot, not to mention them bloody Southerners.

    Integration takes several generations and at the slightest trouble all the old predudices will emerge.

    I know several countries where the loudmouthed, arrogant, yobbish, rich influx are resented and treated much worse than in Thailand. It's bad enough when we criticise immigrants, worse when we are the immigrants looking for a better life but wanting our own cultural standards and our little walled compounds, McDonalds, English Bars, KFC, etc and running down our hosts.

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    I look at this way,

    Ive been travelling to thailand for 20 years, have travelled extensively over the country and met and interacted with many different thai on different levels.

    I can honestly say they aint done nothing bad to me and on many occasions have helped me. I talk to my friends who live and work here and theres only a few who have really negative opinions, they are involved in serious business so there seems to be a common thread there.

    The others have positive things to say about the thai but i think the way we must look at this is to say theres 65 million thais and the good would outway the bad just as it does in my country.

    All i can say is i like them but i dont hang out in pattaya, phuket, patpong, soi cowboy or any of those places where one will encounter the worst of the thai and the worst of the farang.

    I suggest that you thai haters do a nice little trip through isaan and then let us know if you still hate thais.

    cheers dudes.

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    I have to say that so far Thai people helped me far more than farangs did, both professionally and personally (but I helped them also, reciprocity works here...).
    And I trust them far more than quite a few of my farang colleagues (reciprocity does not work in farangland...).
    Last edited by Bluecat; 03-02-2008 at 05:40 PM.

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    Ill be moving here permanent in 2 years time.

    The first thing ill be doing is going back to school, learning how to speak thai properly, to truly integrate into the society one must speak the lingo and only this way will one make good thai friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed View Post
    I think some of you should take a step back and look at how immigrant communities are treated in your own countries before you start criticising the Thais. The UK for instance supposedly is proud of their multicultural society and has a tradition of integration. Trouble is, in reality we never trusted or liked the Jews, then the Jamacans, then the Indians, now the Eastern European gipsys and the Muslims. Come to that the Welsh, Scots, and Irish are a rum lot, not to mention them bloody Southerners.

    Integration takes several generations and at the slightest trouble all the old predudices will emerge.

    I know several countries where the loudmouthed, arrogant, yobbish, rich influx are resented and treated much worse than in Thailand. It's bad enough when we criticise immigrants, worse when we are the immigrants looking for a better life but wanting our own cultural standards and our little walled compounds, McDonalds, English Bars, KFC, etc and running down our hosts.
    We are the immigrants? To where? Certainly not Thailand.

    Let me give you a clue, we are not Immigrants if we have a Non-Immigrant visa or tourist visa in our passports, which accounts for 99.999% of us.
    We are either tourists or temporary residents for purposes other than tourism (Non-Imm visas).

    A small percentage get permanent residency. An even smaller percentage, almost not even worth mentioning here, become full Thai citizens. Only then can you call yourself an Immigrant.
    Of course you'll never be 'Thai' no matter how much you convince yourself otherwise because you are caucasian but I digress.

    Comparing Immigrants integrating to the UK and foreigners residing in Thailand only highlights the fallacy of your arguments. Indeed, it is laughable.

    You can't integrate into a society when you are merely a temporary visitor. Let's start by getting the same rights as Thais let alone getting carried away with these grandiose ideas of integrating into their society! It's a closed shop.

    FYI - McDonalds in Thailand, or McThai, is a wholly Thai company, used predominantly by Thais and brought from the US by a Thai guy who saw a market for it in the 60's. Running down out hosts? They can't get enough of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Ill be moving here permanent in 2 years time.
    You'll be moving to Thailand as a temporary resident for purposes other than tourism if you come on a Non-Imm. Or you'll be a tourist on tourist visas.

    There are no permanent options available until you have stayed for a certain amount of time with a full work permit and paid taxes. Then you'll need to apply for permanent residency which will require you to speak some Thai and know some cultural idioms.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    You can't integrate into a society when you are merely a temporary visitor. Let's start by getting the same rights as Thais let alone getting carried away with these grandiose ideas of integrating into their society! It's a closed shop..
    Not sure about that, two of my colleagues have Chinese parents.
    They came from China 40 years ago and their children are my colleagues.
    They do not speak Chinese anymore and my colleagues are as Thai as Thai can be.
    And their parents are very successful.
    Why can they do it and we can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    You can't integrate into a society when you are merely a temporary visitor. Let's start by getting the same rights as Thais let alone getting carried away with these grandiose ideas of integrating into their society! It's a closed shop..
    Not sure about that, two of my colleagues have Chinese parents.
    They came from China 40 years ago and their children are my colleagues.
    They do not speak Chinese anymore and my colleagues are as Thai as Thai can be.
    And their parents are very successful.
    Why can they do it and we can't?
    Pretty simple really, as they were encouraged to become Thai citizens and we are not.

    In the 70's resident Chinese people not born in Thailand were offered to become Thai citizens.

    If you think that is going to happen to the Westerners residing here someone is pissing on your back and telling you it is raining.

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    I do not agree.
    If you speak Thai and have worked for some time here, you can easily become permanent resident.
    And get the nationality pretty easily afterwards.
    But well, why in hell would you want to do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    I do not agree.
    If you speak Thai and have worked for some time here, you can easily become permanent resident.
    And get the nationality pretty easily afterwards.
    But well, why in hell would you want to do that?
    I'm pretty sure there is a quota on the amount of Westerners granted Thai citizenship per year and that number is very low.

    Sure if you made it your life's ambition then you could probably achieve that aim but I am talking about Immigration en masse and not just a few 'lucky' individuals.

    You can bet your bottom dollar that en masse Western Immigration to Thailand won't happen any time in our lifetimes. Perhaps further in the future but I am not optimistic.

    Cross border migration of Chinese citizens is a different matter and as I already pointed out in the 70's resident Chinese were offered the chance to become Thai citizens.
    Chinese people have endured decades of discrimination in Thailand before they were accepted and even now there is still underlying tensions and racism towards Chinese and Chinese-Thai people.

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