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    [QUOTE=nathanielnong;4142092]
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    From what I have learned...



    First of all, Tak Bart (offering food to monks) is an original tradition for Buddhists since the beginning and that first happened in (nowadays) India/Nepal the area where Buddha stayed. Around that time, people hardly wore shoes, except those from high class. Since no monks wore shoes (as one of the rules Buddha decrees to be rid of "luxuries"), so to show them faith and respect, people didn't wear shoes when offering food to them. Hence, this has been carried on until today.



    It is not a rule and nowadays, the earth is so dirty and dangerous to stand barefooted. So, relaxation happens.


    Anyway, as Buddha says "Merit making will be effective when you do it with your mind not your body". Alas, even the strict Buddhists fail to recognize it let alone general ones.

    Thanks for asking.
    Thank you. Interesting. Over the past few years I have participated in many of the merit making food offerings around Isan and I can say that everyone, always, removes their shoes. That can be in the temple or in the village street or in schools. Maybe Isan people cling to their traditions more strongly.

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    [QUOTE=Shutree;4142111]
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanielnong View Post

    Thank you. Interesting. Over the past few years I have participated in many of the merit making food offerings around Isan and I can say that everyone, always, removes their shoes. That can be in the temple or in the village street or in schools. Maybe Isan people cling to their traditions more strongly.
    You are right. It is old tradition. Even some places in Bangkok, people still remove theirs.

    May I suggest you do something. Next time you participate, notice what they do before giving away food to the monks who are waiting before them. If possible, ask them "What are you doing and why do you do that?".
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    Kinnari Nava in Lumpini Park


    In 1960s, in the middle of the lake was the famous floating restaurant named Kinnari Nava. It was a distinctive construction in the shape of a big boat (nava). On top of the bow was fixed with a topless Kinnari (a creature of half-woman/half-bird according to the Hindu mythology).


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    The sight of the Kinnari created controversy among the people given the reason that it is inappropriate, obscene, for a Buddhism country such as Thailand. Many people gave nicknames to the restaurant such as “Brothel restaurant” and etc.

    There were more problems such as people complained that the restaurant dropped garbage including leftover food in the lake that caused foul smell all over and even crossed over into the area of Chulalongkorn Hospital sited on the opposite side of the road where the park was. Though, the restaurant rejected all the accusations.

    However, all of the controversies ended when the restaurant was all burnt down on August, 1971. The cause was by a short circuit happened in the kitchen.


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    Note: In the picture, you can see people were watching. In Thai, we call them "Thai mung".
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    Golden Mount; Then (King Rama IV’s reign; 1804-1868) and Now

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanielnong View Post
    The very first KFC branch in Bangkok in the 70s. I wonder if anyone here used to visit there.


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    I went there several times. The franchisees, who still have several successful businesses in Bangkok, were friends of mine (and it was close to Patpong).

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    [QUOTE=nathanielnong;4142827]
    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post

    You are right. It is old tradition. Even some places in Bangkok, people still remove theirs.

    May I suggest you do something. Next time you participate, notice what they do before giving away food to the monks who are waiting before them. If possible, ask them "What are you doing and why do you do that?".
    Usually they raise the food to be offered in both hands and sometimes I hear words like "sa tu", but I don't really understand the meaning. I have asked. It seems difficult for them to explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    I hear words like "sa tu", but I don't really understand the meaning.
    it's equivalent to amen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shy Guava View Post
    I went there several times. The franchisees, who still have several successful businesses in Bangkok, were friends of mine (and it was close to Patpong).
    Thanks for more detail. I thought somewhere around Soi (back then) Tong Loh on Sukhumwit Road. I was wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    it's equivalent to amen

    Satu is not a Thai word. It is originally Pali's.

    If the word comes out from Buddhist monks it means they approve or certify any Buddhist rituals that have just been performed.

    If from normal people. It means like accepting what the monks are blessing you.

    Same meaning as "amen"???

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    I just, in time, found another nice photo portraying Golden Mount. It was shot during the reign of King Chulalongkorn (King Rama V; 1853-1910), his later years.

    That was Klong (canal) Onk Ung .


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    [QUOTE=Shutree;4143071]
    Quote Originally Posted by nathanielnong View Post

    Usually they raise the food to be offered in both hands and sometimes I hear words like "sa tu", but I don't really understand the meaning. I have asked. It seems difficult for them to explain.
    I can answer you instead. They are asking things from the monks. Things such as "May I be rich", "May I hit a lottery this time", "May I cover my debt soon" and etc.

    These are what typical Buddhists do while doing "tak batr".

    They are considering Buddhist monks as magicians who can grant wishes and that is totally wrong.

    The duty of Buddhist monks is nobler than that. They carry out Buddha's teachings to the world of Buddhism not granting wishes to people.

    The meaning of Buddhism is dwindling away.

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    Pra Tat Panom is a religious construction inside the Wat with the same name sited in the southern part of Nakorn Panom Province, northeastern Thailand.

    According to legend, inside Pra Tat contains the Buddha's breast bone. The construction was said to be originally built in the 16th century by the Laotian King. Each year, a festival is held at to honor the Pra Tat Panom. The week-long festival attracts thousands of people who make pilgrimages to honor the shrine.

    In 1975, according to heavy rain and storm, Pra Tat Panom was tumbled down but was rebuilt with funds raised by public subscription, and from the government.


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    At first glance, this photo looks like somewhere in Europe in the 60s

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    Actually it was taken inside Soi (lane) Charoen Krung 40 where the Oriental Hotel is sited (shot from the Chao Praya River looking towards Charoen Krung Road)

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    Nice house (and supposedly rich) in the 60s style shot somewhere in Thonburi Province which has been now merged with Pranakorn Province to become Krungthep Mahanakorn or Kor Tor Mor at present.

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    I bet some of you guys used to get drunk there...

    The building looks so shabby to me. Might be its later years??

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    I really like that American car; 1959 Chevrolet Impala
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    Taken in the year 1906 (King Rama V's reign) looking at the Ratchadumnoen Nai Road franked by Sanam Luang (right) and the, then, "Prison for Minor Crimes Department" (left) which later has been demolished and replaced by the statue of "Mother Earth twisting her hair" in the corner and Ministry of Justice Building.

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    That is Pan Pipob Leela Bridge built in 1902, one of the three beautiful bridges along the Ratchadumnern Road, crossing the old moat surrounding the old city. Very peaceful atmosphere.

    Nowadays... The beautiful wrought iron on each side of the bridge and the lamp posts are gone, so sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanielnong View Post


    If from normal people. It means like accepting what the monks are blessing you.

    Same meaning as "amen"???
    Quite closely similar in meaning, I think, now that I have looked at it.
    Amen is
    "Used to express agreement or consent." : the OED
    "Said or sung at the end of a prayer or a religious song to express agreement with what has been said." : Cambbridge Dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Quite closely similar in meaning, I think, now that I have looked at it.
    Amen is
    "Used to express agreement or consent." : the OED
    "Said or sung at the end of a prayer or a religious song to express agreement with what has been said." : Cambbridge Dictionary.
    Yup, sounds pretty much the same to me as well.

    I wonder if there are such words in other religions.

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    Not many farangs know this story…


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    In March 1935, King Prachatipok (King Rama VII) abdicated in favor of his 9-year-old nephew, Prince Bhumibol Adulyadej's older brother Prince Ananda Mahidol.

    The child-king and his siblings remained in Switzerland while two regents ruled the kingdom in his name. Ananda Mahidol returned to Thailand in 1938, but Bhumibol Adulyadej remained in Europe. The younger brother continued his studies in Switzerland until 1945, when he left the University of Lausanne at the end of World War II.

    On June 9, 1946, young King Mahidol (King Rama VIII) died in his palace bedroom from a single gunshot wound to the head. It was never conclusively proved whether his death was murder, accident, or suicide. Nevertheless, two royal pages and the king's personal secretary were convicted and executed for the crime of assassination.

    Adulyadej's uncle was appointed his prince regent, and Adulyadej returned to the University of Lausanne to finish his degree. In deference to his new role, he changed his major from science to political science and law.

    Just as his father had done in Massachusetts, U.S.A., Adulyadej met his wife-to-be while studying overseas. He often went to Paris, where he met the daughter of Thailand's ambassador to France, a student named Mom Rajawongse (a Thai royal rank) Sirikit Kitiyakorn. Adulyadej and Sirikit began a courtship, visiting Paris' romantic tourist sights.

    In October 1948, Adulyadej rear-ended a truck and was seriously injured. He lost his right eye and suffered a painful back injury. Sirikit spent a lot of time nursing and entertaining the injured king. In the meanwhile, the king's mother urged the young woman to transfer to a school in Lausanne so that she could continue her studies while getting to know Adulyadej better.

    On April 28, 1950, Adulyadej and Sirikit were married in Bangkok. She was 17 years old; he was 22. The King was officially crowned one week later, becoming Thailand's monarch and officially known thereafter as King Bhumibol Adulyadej, King Rama IX the Great, the most beloved of all the Thai people ever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanielnong View Post
    I bet some of you guys used to get drunk there...

    The building looks so shabby to me. Might be its later years??

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    I really like that American car; 1959 Chevrolet Impala
    The place had a bit of a reputation as a "remount post" after the normal bars had closed. A couple of times I was there (for academic research), there was a European woman who seemed to have a permanent reservation for a corner table. The table had a big white tablecloth and the shoeshine boys would reluctantly crawl under there to perform their assignment while she handed money down to them and glared with challenge at any watching customers . I felt sorry for the poor little tykes when they crawled out spitting on the floor and picking foreign objects out of their teeth. Had the appearance of a regular business arrangement though as the kids looked to be resigned to their task without any instructions.

    p.s. My apologies if I have inadvertently insulted anyone's Mum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shy Guava View Post
    The place had a bit of a reputation as a "remount post" after the normal bars had closed. A couple of times I was there (for academic research), there was a European woman who seemed to have a permanent reservation for a corner table. The table had a big white tablecloth and the shoeshine boys would reluctantly crawl under there to perform their assignment while she handed money down to them and glared with challenge at any watching customers . I felt sorry for the poor little tykes when they crawled out spitting on the floor and picking foreign objects out of their teeth. Had the appearance of a regular business arrangement though as the kids looked to be resigned to their task without any instructions.

    p.s. My apologies if I have inadvertently insulted anyone's Mum.

    Wow, what a story. Never thought that could happen in Thailand.

    Every picture tells a story...

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Some of the photographs taken during the era of King Mongkut (Rama IV) between 1865-66 by a Scottish photographer John Thomson, one of the earliest Western photographers in the Far East who arrived in Bangkok on September, 1865.

    Thomson was special because he was the first (western) photographer to be allowed in the grand palace and to take photos of King Mongkut. The King was very much impressed with his skill of taking photos.

    The photographs were developed from the original glass plate negatives at Wellcome Institute London, and show spectacular detail of Thailand more than 150 years ago

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    The Memorial Bridge is a bascule bridge over the Chao Praya River in Bangkok. It connects the districts of Pra Nakorn Province and Toneburi Province. These two provinces are now combined and called Krung Tep Mahanakorn or Kor Tor Mor (in short) or Bangkok (still used in farangÂ’s language). It is the second bridge that serves this duty.

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    The bridge opened on 6 April 1932 by King Prachatipok (King Rama VII) in commemoration of the 150th anniversary of the Chakri Dynasty and the foundation of Krung Tep (or Bangkok in farangÂ’s language), the capital, shortly before the Siamese coup de tat of 24 June 1932.

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    In English, the bridge is commonly known as Memorial Bridge. However in Thai, it is most commonly known as Pra Puttayotfa Bridge, after King Praputtayodfa Chulalok (King Rama I), the first king of the Chakri Dynasty. The name is more commonly shortened as Sapan (bridge) Put.

    Construction of the bridge was started on 3 December 1929 by Domanlong, Middleborough, England, under the supervision of Italian technicians from SNOS (SocietĂ[at] Nazionale Officine Savignano). The bridge used to have a double-leaf bascule-type lifting mechanism, which is now unused.


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    During the bombing of Bangkok in WW II, some significant locations close by were destroyed or at least damaged. The Memorial Bridge was one of them.

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    In 1982, the bridge has its sister named Pra Pok Klao Bridge which was constructed on the 200th anniversary of Rattanakosin or Bangkok nowadays.
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    Thai Dai Maru department store was the first modern department store in Thailand that had central air-conditioning and a set of escalator fixed. It was opened in 1964 in Rachaprasong shopping certer which is now occupied by Central World. The department was moved for a couple of times and finally shut down in 2000.

    I still remember very well the feeling, first time ever, of touching my small feet on the escalator, kind of wobble but so excited. I stood on it up and down and down and up every time my parents took me there.

    Next to the store, on the opposite side of the lane, sited a hamburger shop named “Wimpy”. It’s my first time ever as well, hamburgers and milkshake.



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    Special Maeklong Railway Market

    At least at first glance, many markets in Thailand look the same. But one that definitely stands out is the Maeklong Railway Market. Why? Because it has a train running through the middle of it several times a day. Right down in the middle and close enough to touch. Only in Thailand!


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