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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I used quotation marks because "by descent" has a special meaning in UK immigration law. See below.




    According to British nationality law, all UK citizens are either citizens 'by descent' or British citizens 'otherwise than by descent'.

    British citizenship 'by descent' is when someone who was born overseas is able to apply for British citizenship based on their parents status as British citizens.

    British citizens 'by descent' are not able to pass on their British citizenship to their children who were born outside the UK whilst citizens 'otherwise than by descent' are able to do so.
    So, basically, his sons can get a British passport, but their future kids won't be able to if they're not born in the UK.

    I don't drink coffee in the morning anymore so may be completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    So, basically, his sons can get a British passport, but their future kids won't be able to if they're not born in the UK.
    That is the way that I understand it. My ex is British, our son was born in Bangkok. If he were to marry another Brit in the same situation as himself and if they then had a child born outside the UK then my grandchild would not be immediately eligible for British citizenship, despite having four British grandparents. If born in Thailand the child wouldn't be eligible for Thai nationality either. It is an unlikely situation, still I wonder what would happen then. Easier to claim to be from Afghanistan and land at night on the Kent coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I would have thought your kids would surely be entitled to a UK passport, I'd sort out the citizenship papers/passport asap if I were you. You never know what's in the future.

    My daughter was entitled to Aussie citizenship due to her Thai mother being a naturalised Aussie, nothing more. I don't have a drop of Aussie blood (thank God!)
    My nippers had Lao passports and aussie passports because of citizenship by descent. They were actually born in aek udon thani by caesarian I refused to put my wife under the lao hospital system . But in Lao you can't hold 2 passports so now they hold Aussie passports only. Can't change that. But yeah they can possibly get a uk passport due to there dad being a sweaty sock with bad habits?

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    When they want to travel they can decide for themselves how they want to roll.

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    ^ So long as your parents are proper British citizens and not by descent (this may apply to your Grandparents as well) I think your kids will be entitled to UK British passports no problem.

    When my daughter was born the first thong I did was get her registered in UK and Australia and sort out citizen papers/passports. You never know how the rules will change in the future.

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    Exactly . Things have a habit of changing so probably no harm in getting them UK passports as well. Wether ( spelling ) they use them or not. In the meantime I will teach them the ways of the Aussies

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    Ma and pa were definitely British citizens ( both deceased now) immigrated to Oz in 66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    the first thong I did...
    It must be the topic of 'passports'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLD View Post
    I will teach them the ways of the Aussies
    Aussie Scots.

    I won't make the obvious comment about the chances of getting a drink out of them in the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    My new tradional British passport arrived back today within a week of renewing it!

    It looks black not dark blue to me
    That is fast, now you can travel!! Malta?
    I got mine last summer, and I got the ten year one. We have the option of a 5 or 10 yr. My last one was five and I've already went through 4 passports, so decided to get the ten yr one this time. Is the British passport for ten years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLD View Post
    My nippers had Lao passports and aussie passports because of citizenship by descent. They were actually born in aek udon thani by caesarian I refused to put my wife under the lao hospital system . But in Lao you can't hold 2 passports so now they hold Aussie passports only. Can't change that. But yeah they can possibly get a uk passport due to there dad being a sweaty sock with bad habits?
    That is cool for you and Mendips' children to have more than one passport. It is always easier to travel and stay longer for visa purposes.
    I taught a lot of children with many different passports especially in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    to have more than one passport. It is always easier to travel and stay longer for visa purposes.

    dafuc?


    Do you think you get to stay twice as long if you have two passports?




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    As a stock holder, Amazon rolling. Record Earnings. Financial outlook looks even better next quarter.. The 2023 dip number was the 20.1 split adjustment. Adjusted was just under a hundred. Now at $171. Life is good.

    Happy Friday

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    On Friday I ran my tongue across a rough patch of tooth for the the thousandth time and decided to go and see a dentist. The filling needed replacing and I'd already put this off for months. Dental emergencies are the main cause of medivacs from offshore installations/vessels and the contractors get well pissed off if the emergencies are avoidable, and rightly so, and I go offshore next week.

    So, I left an hour early on the school run, stopped off at my dentist in Korat with no appointment, she gave me a check-up and replaced the filling all for 1600 Baht.

    And I still arrived at school with 20 minutes to spare.

    That's the cheer.

    And then I read about people queuing up around the block in Bristol, UK just to sign on to a dentist, let alone to get an appointment or get work done.

    WTF has happened to Old Blighty?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post

    And then I read about people queuing up around the block in Bristol, UK just to sign on to a dentist, let alone to get an appointment or get work done.

    WTF has happened to Old Blighty?
    Probably the last NHS dentist in Bristol. The Pattel sisters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    WTF has happened to Old Blighty?
    13 years of cuts and governmental incompetence.

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    Brits queueing to visit a dentist?

    Gotta be fake news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    And then I read about people queuing up around the block in Bristol, UK just to sign on to a dentist, let alone to get an appointment or get work done.

    WTF has happened to Old Blighty?
    Bladdy 'eck.

    I had a wisdom tooth removed a week or two before going back West a few years ago. A splinter was left inside my gum which the body started to reject by pushing it out. Which was rather uncomfortable, to say the least.

    With 2 or 3 days to go before coming back to Thailand I wanted to go to the dentist for them to nip it out with something like a tweezers.

    Rang them up and it was around 100,000 quid just to go and them take a look without anything else being done. No wonder they all drive new Benzes and the half-Singaporean female ones get taken by smeg.


    Are you still planning on spending your OAP days there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    13 years of cuts and governmental incompetence.

    Well Simpl. More like 17 years under a Labour contract. Admittedly the Tories could have changed it but it was a Labour Govt in 2006 that changed the contract from per treatment to a single cost for a treatment type. You are such an uninformed leftie clown

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    Well Simpl. More like 17 years under a Labour contract. Admittedly the Tories could have changed it but it was a Labour Govt in 2006 that changed the contract from per treatment to a single cost for a treatment type. You are such an uninformed leftie clown

    Oh, it's all Labour's fault.





    What a ridiculous tory wanker you are, numpt.

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    Brits, suckled on the teat of free or almost free dentistry for 3 generations would rather spend their money on lip filler, alcohol, tattoos and bluetooth headsets and of course vets bills for their cats and dogs, than on their own health.

    Dentists after many years of being paid £20 to do a £50 job have cried ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and are quite rightly withdrawing from providing NHS services.

    Covid shut down dental practices for 2 years, and now there is a huge backlog to process, and not enough NHS dentists prepared to work at a loss.

    Those who can be bothered should look up the details and payment levels for NHS dental contracts since 2006 or 7. A dentist is allocated a fixed number of "units of dental activity" per year, and should they exceed that amount, they will not receive payment for them. My dentist told me last year she had exceeded her allowance by April, and so decided that after April all work would have to be private, or she would have to close down. Equipping and running a high tech dental practice is a very expensive affair, paid for by the dentist, not the NHS. It is a huge investment.

    This contract system was actually formulated and introduced by the Labour government under Blair, and has not really been improved during succeeding governments, but they can find billions for HS2 railways, hotels doctors and dentists for illegal immigrants and there is always enough money for hiring dozens of rainbow worshipping NHS diversity consultants on £160k p.a.

    Dentistry should be free for kids up to say 16 y.o, and the chronically ill, but for the rest it should be insurance based. Just like it is for their pets.

    Take a close look at the photo of that queue for the dentist, and tell me what is the standout feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Oh, it's all Labour's fault.





    What a ridiculous tory wanker you are, numpt.
    If you'd read up on why no dentists are signing on to the NHS and why existing ones are leaving you'd know.

    Still when Starmer gets in he can reverse labours 2006 decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    If you'd read up on why no dentists are signing on to the NHS and why existing ones are leaving you'd know.
    The tories have had 13 years to improve it then, you absurd drunk.

    But they've been too busy economically knee-capping the entire country.


    Are Labour to blame for the rivers being full of and all the island's litany of other ills, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    The tories have had 13 years to improve it then, you absurd drunk.

    But they've been too busy economically knee-capping the entire country.
    Improve a contract that should never have been introduced. If anyone is drunk and absurd it's you simpl. You need to back off the Stella, perhaps talk to some people who can do more than think about food every 5 minutes and can pronounce their Rs. .

    This thread has cheered me up on cold morning start.

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