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    Photo shopped or not?

    This just won a photo comp on another forum. I think altered, but before I get banned by complaining could TD CSI please confirm.



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    what?

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    Looks just like filters to me?

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    Photo shopped or not?
    This just won a photo comp on another forum.
    Nope. That's exactly how it looked when I took it.

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    Filters, bit of vaseline on the lens.

    Summat like that anyway.

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    photo shopped.

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    Photoshop filters.

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    Altered image ... sure ... 99.999999999999999999%

    I did a thread on TVF about 'naked images' ... photos taken, cropped and naked of any other retouches.
    Went down like a lead balloon ... no-one is interested.

    So, to the image ...

    In a pond, and we are surrounded by them, if there are ripples by the waters edge, they are larger in the center of the pond.
    This occurs to the height of the bank shielding the pond from the wind.

    Here the ripples are by the edge and nothing in the middle ... highly unlikely ... it's been retouched, 99% sure.

    Also, with no ripples, there would be a mirror reflection off the pond ... and there isn't.

    Look at the building on the right, according to the other shadows (look at the palms on the left hand shore), that building should be shaded.
    But it's not. It's been infilled with mid-tone lighting and the contrast dramatically increased ... hence the clean, yet aged look.

    I'd also bet your balls (not mine) that those birds, which are perfectly positioned haven been dropped into the image after it was captured.

    Feel free to copy and paste my analysis, in part, or in full.

    David

    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    This just won a photo comp on another forum. I think altered, but before I get banned by complaining could TD CSI please confirm.


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    Exif and image data can tell if an image has been edited, but not how much.

    You'll need to look closer at the image to decide how much it has been edited.



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    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    The shadows are wrong on the far bank compared to the near bank.

    It's shopped.

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    There is a Vespa on the bottom left of the pic.

    Being serious though. It has been photo shopped.

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    The guy does some good shoots.

    Recent photos

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    The water surface has been vaselined and the exposure has been fiddled to increase the exposure on the the hut facing us on the right. Must have taken it RAW to let him fiddle the exposure to that extent - unless his camera has a very clever HDR function.

    The HDR on my Nikon P340 produces strange exposures like that. I actually find them too surreal so I don't use the HDR function.

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    Fake, no plastic bags in the pond.

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    pay that!

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    So negative, I know Leica

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    If anyone wonders how the original looks like, here it is



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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy View Post
    If anyone wonders how the original looks like, here it is



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    Did the competition permit subsequent digital editing? Using old technology it was quite in order to fiddle with exposure settings in the print process to obtain an effect not captured when the film was first exposed. Burning out and increasing contrast in b/w for example. Photo-shopping involving the placement of other exposed subjects within a composite is at best a collage or at worst mere fraud. I'm bemused as to why it won a prize, the effect is clumsy and quite superfluous in my opinion. Fiddling with exposures in landscape has to have a point - a nice long exposure on a tripod of some rural idyll and a babbling brook with very fast flowing water is a case in point and works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Filters, bit of vaseline on the lens.
    Sounds like a porn shot gone awry...

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