Thread: PREPPERS - Those who plan to survive

Originally Posted by redhaze

I think its kind of sad that people spend their life worrying about low probability events. Pretty pathetic way to live your life really.

Of course when they're holed up in their bunker eating cat food mixed with powered milk while I'm out there starving or burning from radiation I'm sure they'll have a good laugh

When I was visited my home area back in Ohio around August last year got to visit my cousin who retired from the Navy a few years before me. He had bought about 40 acres and built a huge house, developed a small fruit orchard of some type and and turned about 3-5 acres into a small lake that he stocked with some kind of fish. Anyway, he said he was told there were city people flush with money looking for "self-sustaining" properties in the event of some huge catastrophe. Sure enough somebody plonked down $500K.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

These thick fuckers waste most of their money on Alex Jones' shit.

Personal experience, heh Harry?

That makes less sense than your usual drivel Jeff.

Fuck off.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

WOW ... this has never crossed my radar, but watching a TV doco/infotainment program on PREPPERS.

So without having to watch the docos what is the top reason why a US citizen in the US thinks they will need to go into survival mode?

^
There is a remote possibility that Jeff could escape from his mums basement.

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by David48atTD

WOW ... this has never crossed my radar, but watching a TV doco/infotainment program on PREPPERS.

So without having to watch the docos what is the top reason why a US citizen in the US thinks they will need to go into survival mode?

I haven't watched these ones but others I have seen show that the day of survival starts when the government tries to take their guns away.
But Looper you know that already.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Don't get me started...I used to tap the coconut flowers for sugary fluid and alcohol.
Long story...I'll get around to telling it on the fishing thread.

Don't forget to Google it before starting on a tall tale this time.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Don't get me started...I used to tap the coconut flowers for sugary fluid and alcohol.
Long story...I'll get around to telling it on the fishing thread.

Don't forget to Google it before starting on a tall tale this time.

You're projecting again.
Yes, I google when I don't know stuff. It's a great tool. I happen to know quite a bit about toddy/kaleve, so no need to google it. Actually, I'd be surprised if there was any useful detail to be gleaned from google as it's not a widely practiced craft in the Pacific and the detail is very important.
Unlike you who doesn't know anything at all, furiously googles, miscomprehends what he reads, and spouts it off as if he was all-knowledgeable and makes a fool of himself. Time and time again.
Like free electricity from cars and animal hair doesn't burn but acts as a wick to draw out fat.
Stop showing your Dunning-Kruger syndrome and piss off.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Don't get me started...I used to tap the coconut flowers for sugary fluid and alcohol.
Long story...I'll get around to telling it on the fishing thread.

Don't forget to Google it before starting on a tall tale this time.

Yes, I google when I don't know stuff. It's a great tool. I happen to know quite a bit about toddy/kaleve

Very possible if you grew up in Fiji.

so no need to google it. Actually, I'd be surprised if there was any useful detail to be gleaned from google as it's not a widely practiced craft in the Pacific and the detail is very important.

You're kidding!.....10 pages of hits for toddy on Google!
Toddy (Sanskrit/Hindi tadi) brewing's an old craft, originating in S.India/Srilanka and spread to Melanesia and Micronesia most likely by Indians brought to Fiji by the British in the late 1850s.

Eastern Polynesia also has an archaic history of coconut migration from Peru, but no evidence of toddy brewing. Fossilized coconuts have been found in NZ, while Maori oral history talks of Ni, a big seed that was once eaten by their forbears from their traditional homeland of Hawaiki

Kava use predates toddy brewing in Fiji. It was the traditional Polynesian knockout juice, originating in India along with the areca nut (erroneously called betel nut) and the piper betel leaf, kava, ( Piperaceae family including peppers), used by early Lapita people in Papua NG, then spread from Melanesia to Micronesia and further across Polynesia from Samoa and Tonga across to as far as the Marqesas.

Unlike you who doesn't know anything at all, furiously googles, miscomprehends what he reads, and spouts it off as if he was all-knowledgeable and makes a fool of himself. Time and time again.

Envy will get you nowhere.
The problem with your point of view is that those of little real comprehension of anthropology, and of limited educational background, such as yourself, no matter what your claims to tertiary education, display pure ignorance of how academic discipline works.

You're regularly gobsmacked by what and how anthropologists do indeed study and know in the field of human behaviour and how it developed.

Like free electricity from cars

That little wow-ism of yours displays your lack of comprehension skills. Nowhere was the claim made of "free electricity from cars".

and animal hair doesn't burn but acts as a wick to draw out fat.

It burns alright, mostly to a black char in the initial conflagration, before complete combustion consumes the lot, leaving grey ash. The charred hair acts as a wick to allow fat to burn during open cremation, of both man and beast.

Deny that as much as you like, science speaks against you. Your anecdotal "knowledge" that you claimed as facts drawn from your personal experience, have been shown to be pure bunkum, as displayed in the cremation thread.

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/17531...ml#post3521526

Originally Posted by ENT

You're kidding!.....10 pages of hits for toddy on Google!
Toddy (Sanskrit/Hindi tadi) brewing's an old craft, originating in S.India/Srilanka and spread to Melanesia and Micronesia most likely by Indians brought to Fiji by the British in the late 1850s.

Complete and utter tripe. Neither Fijians nor Findians make toddy in Fiji. I learnt the art from Tuvaluans on the island of Kioa in Fiji.
And it's not "brewed" as such.
Try googling "kaleve" and even then you don't get to learn how it's actually done.

Originally Posted by ENT

Kava use predates toddy brewing in Fiji. It was the traditional Polynesian knockout juice, originating in India along with the areca nut (erroneously called betel nut) and the piper betel leaf, kava, ( Piperaceae family including peppers), used by early Lapita people in Papua NG, then spread from Melanesia to Micronesia and further across Polynesia from Samoa and Tonga across to as far as the Marqesas.

More tripe from your flawed googling. Kava and betel are not used together, in fact I am unaware of betel being existent in the Pacific except for far Western Pacific such as Solomons and Vanuatu. Betel is not consumed in Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Tuvalu, Tokelau, or Niue. The only thing they have in common is that piper methisticum (kava) is the same family as pepper and the leaf betel chewers use.

Originally Posted by ENT

display pure ignorance of how academic discipline works.

coming from you!!!

Originally Posted by ENT

Nowhere was the claim made of "free electricity from cars".

Dunning-Kruger showing again...yes you did.

Originally Posted by ENT

you claimed as facts drawn from your personal experience, have been shown to be pure bunkum, as displayed in the cremation thread.

Errrm, noooo. Dunning-Kruger again. Your outrageous assertions are by no means "showing pure bunkum".

Originally Posted by redhaze

low probability events

Do I detect some normalcy bias...

Originally Posted by wasabi

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by David48atTD

WOW ... this has never crossed my radar, but watching a TV doco/infotainment program on PREPPERS.

So without having to watch the docos what is the top reason why a US citizen in the US thinks they will need to go into survival mode?

I haven't watched these ones but others I have seen show that the day of survival starts when the government tries to take their guns away.
But Looper you know that already.

I thought it might be some sort of governance-phobia.

By the way I do not support the US gun lobby if that is what you are suggesting.

I think citizens of civilised countries should not be allowed to carry or possess assault weapons or hand-guns.

I have the Jesus contigency plan of surviving 40 days and 40 nights without food or water.

No magic tricks or hokus pokus, very simple and very little equipment required.

Originally Posted by Looper

I thought it might be some sort of governance-phobia.

Yeah, I get the impression that many survivalists are so because the gummint might take their guns.
But I think there's also the religious nutters (apocalypse coming) and tin foil hatters too.
But the possibility (having said the above about nutters...yeah, I know opens me up for finger-pointing) of a catastrophe, man made or natural is real. It doesn't hurt to ponder the possibility, which I have done, and as said, I went as far as suggesting a rally point to my kids should some catastrophic event occur.
Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, qe sera sera.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I have the Jesus contigency plan of surviving 40 days and 40 nights without food or water.

No magic tricks or hokus pokus, very simple and very little equipment required.

And what if the catastrophe lasts 42 days and nights?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I have the Jesus contigency plan of surviving 40 days and 40 nights without food or water.

No magic tricks or hokus pokus, very simple and very little equipment required.

And what if the catastrophe lasts 42 days and nights?

No worries, you would already be dead and I'd be having a dandy bbq...

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

You're kidding!.....10 pages of hits for toddy on Google!
Toddy (Sanskrit/Hindi tadi) brewing's an old craft, originating in S.India/Srilanka and spread to Melanesia and Micronesia most likely by Indians brought to Fiji by the British in the late 1850s.

Complete and utter tripe. Neither Fijians nor Findians make toddy in Fiji.

Then why bring the matter to attention with your post #

I learnt the art from Tuvaluans on the island of Kioa in Fiji.

So a Fijian brewed alcoholic beverage.
And it's not "brewed" as such.
Try googling "kaleve" and even then you don't get to learn how it's actually done.

Originally Posted by ENT

Kava use predates toddy brewing in Fiji. It was the traditional Polynesian knockout juice, originating in India along with the areca nut (erroneously called betel nut) and the piper betel leaf, kava, ( Piperaceae family including peppers), used by early Lapita people in Papua NG, then spread from Melanesia to Micronesia and further across Polynesia from Samoa and Tonga across to as far as the Marqesas.

More tripe from your flawed googling.

No Googling necessary, all I stated is common knowledge.

Kava and betel are not used together

True, but betel leaf, which has similar properties to kava and areca nut are chewed together, with lime..

in fact I am unaware of betel being existent in the Pacific except for far Western Pacific such as Solomons and Vanuatu. Betel is not consumed in Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Tuvalu, Tokelau, or Niue.

True

The only thing they have in common is that piper methisticum (kava) is the same family as pepper and the leaf betel chewers use.

That was a quick Google, but you should have read the rest.
All forms of piperacea have a narcotic effect, some more so than others.
The betel leaf of India, kava leaf of Melanesia and Pacifica, kawa-kawa leaf of NZ will all get you stoned.
In fact kawa /kava leaf is more effective than the root that's used in other parts of Polynesia.

Originally Posted by ENT

display pure ignorance of how academic discipline works.

coming from you!!!

Yup, any university graduate(or undergrad student) has a better understanding of academic discipline than you have.

Originally Posted by ENT

Nowhere was the claim made of "free electricity from cars".

Dunning-Kruger showing again...yes you did.[/quote]
Quote the post.

Originally Posted by ENT

you claimed as facts drawn from your personal experience, have been shown to be pure bunkum, as displayed in the cremation thread.

Errrm, noooo. Dunning-Kruger again. Your outrageous assertions are by no means "showing pure bunkum".

Correct, they're not.
But your complete denial of reality in the "cremation" thread does.

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Try reading The Road by Cormac McCarthy...

The feeling of hopelessness comes early...

It did make the idea of surviving pretty unattractive. I work with a guy who is kind of a prepper I suggested he read the book too.

This 'prepping 'thing has been going on for more than 50 years.

Even in the 1970s- 1980s groups of folks set themselves up in closed communities with stores of food and equipment, now they're all oldies waiting for the big war or tidal wave or comet to arrive, and wondering if they did the right thing hoarding all that stuff instead of getting on with enjoying life.

One guy I know has spent his whole paranoid life setting himself up totally self sufficiently in an isolated valley in NZ. Just him and his missus left, friends and kids all long gone, escaped the isolation they'd been forced to live in, while he sits freaking out growing amazingly good food, brewing some equally amazing good beer and screaming at his once spunky, now crippled wife while gobbling down his melatonin and amyl tryptamine, staring at the TV every evening,.....waiting....he knows where his gun is....

Gets out to town to collect his pension,...pays his insurance.....WTF.

If ever a catastrophe hits, it'll be the leanest, meanest, brainiest most mobile bastards that will survive into the future,...the minimalists.

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by wasabi

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by David48atTD

WOW ... this has never crossed my radar, but watching a TV doco/infotainment program on PREPPERS.

So without having to watch the docos what is the top reason why a US citizen in the US thinks they will need to go into survival mode?

I haven't watched these ones but others I have seen show that the day of survival starts when the government tries to take their guns away.
But Looper you know that already.

I thought it might be some sort of governance-phobia.

By the way I do not support the US gun lobby if that is what you are suggesting.

I think citizens of civilised countries should not be allowed to carry or possess assault weapons or hand-guns.

No I wasn't suggesting that, I sort of new that you where not pro gun. My point was that I thought you already knew that these folks seem to have a fear that the big bad Washington DC is going to take away their guns.

This fellow says there are 18 different types of preppers...

The 18 Types of Preppers You Will Run Into | Survival Sullivan

and probably many subdivisions within those 18. Sort of like many sects within different religions.

Preppers are fuked in the head, we are all going down the shit house together.

Anyone who is left over would of wished they had been flushed the first time around.

The world is fuked.

The largest group of Preppers in a controlled cult world wide is the 7 million strong Jehovah witness, who believe Armageddon is imminent.
They don't stock food or weapons but watchtower magazines promising salvation to the faithful.
The trouble is the same for Jehovah Witnesses as it is the same for other Preppers groups, they have waited for over 100 years for the end , and are still waiting.

Originally Posted by Slick

I just have a bunch of guns & ammunition. Figure that will get me & the family whatever is needed.

Right so that must mean that you plan to use your guns to take shit from unarmed people. Typical of white trash like you. I am not surprised.

Fuck everyone else as long as you get yours.

^My interpretation was that he was saying he planned to rob people as well.

Whatever I guess

Reason # 5,284 why I will be planning not one iota.