My family roots, one side clear the other side dark.

**DrB0b** · 12-07-2016, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Because a clear majority of them do not want it.

That would be the Northern Irish not the Southern Irish, therefore not a majority of the Irish. Not a big deal but to avoid confusion it's best to be specific when talking about nationality rather than ethnicity.

Originally Posted by sabang

The Anglo-Irish Accord of 1984

Which was obsoleted by the Good Friday Agreement which in turn set up (some of) the conditions under which Ireland could be united. The Good Friday Agreement was ratified by 71% of voters in the 1998 referendum in NI. At the same time there was a constitutional referendum in the Republic which removed the Republic's territorial claim to the Six Counties.

**sabang** · 12-07-2016, 11:29 PM

^ A rather learned Northern Irish friend of mine (yes a proddy- but no Orangeman) favoured reunification of a very different variety. He favoured the ROI 'reuniting' with UK via Referendum, under the auspices of the EU. He said this would be to the economic and social benefit of all tribes concerned, given the realities of modern day nation states.

Your thoughts?

**helge** · 12-07-2016, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I cannot name some of my ancestors as you will then know my surname.

Paisley ?

NO NO NO

**patsycat** · 13-07-2016, 01:08 AM

There are websites where you can find out you family history. As long as you know, even vaguely, dates of birth, places of birth etc. of your ancestors. If you have grandparents born in Ireland - you can get an Irish Passport. Ancestry.com, i think is the website. A friend of mine, and it took him ages, got his family tree back to the 17th century.

That's how so many Americans get them... which pisses me off no end.

I got mine, twenty years ago. i am onto my second one now. Born in Belfast, to parents born in Belfast, etc. All i needed to put on the form was where i was born and my mothers maiden name. Even though my parents, and i, had British passports. Most of my family have their British ones. Just me and my brother went Irish. That'll show em!!

I would like to think that Australians are more Irish than Americans, if they want an Irish passport. The Americans seem to take it as granted and stomp around Ireland like great big bog waders. Claiming their bit of turf.

If LT's last name is Paisley - i totally refute what i have just said...!! Or it might be Sands!!

Oh, and my father was an Orangeman and wore his sash so proud..... sing along. But he wasn't a bigot. He got him and his family out of there in the 1950's sixties.

Shise, i forgot it was the Twelth!! Don your bowler hats!! See, so far away from that crap. And will probably read or see some sort of molotov thrown... by a shaved head kid who was born 15 years ago...

**billy the kid** · 13-07-2016, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

He favoured the ROI 'reuniting' with UK via Referendum, under the auspices of the EU.

Would have to be a United Ireland, along with Great Britain if it chose . Separate.

**DrB0b** · 13-07-2016, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

^ A rather learned Northern Irish friend of mine (yes a proddy- but no Orangeman) favoured reunification of a very different variety. He favoured the ROI 'reuniting' with UK via Referendum, under the auspices of the EU. He said this would be to the economic and social benefit of all tribes concerned, given the realities of modern day nation states.

Your thoughts?

My thoughts are that it's impossible to discuss such an idea on a forum like this or, really, on any online forum. It's much too complex a subject. Next time you come to the UK or Ireland let me know and I would be more than happy to meet up and discuss ideas like this at length as long as we have decent drink and decent food to keep us going while we talk. There's no fun in changing the world if we're either sober or hungry or, God forbid, both!

**billy the kid** · 13-07-2016, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

There's no fun in changing the world

No. Better change ure own cause you are the world.

**DrB0b** · 13-07-2016, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by DrB0b

There's no fun in changing the world

No. Better change ure own cause you are the world.

Push off and do one you dreary pin-headed illiterate tit.

**Chittychangchang** · 13-07-2016, 03:57 AM

Juncker will be out on his arse soon! I vote Bob to fill his boots on the ground in Brussels

**Pragmatic** · 13-07-2016, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I only realised today that a lot of the hatred between the Irish was religion based.

My father was christened catholic but would not have his 5 kids raised the same.

**Dragonfly94** · 13-07-2016, 07:42 AM

My sister spent a year looking into family past, we have same Irish dad but different mothers. She traced her family on her mums side back to 1035 which I think is pretty unusual. On our dads side however she got nowhere, apparently there was a fire in the records office in Dublin at some time and a lot of stuff got destroyed so parish records is all that was left.

**bobo746** · 13-07-2016, 07:54 AM

Aussie mongrel me.

**AntRobertson** · 13-07-2016, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by bobo746

Aussie mongrel me.

1/2 kangaroo, 1/4 blue heeler, 1/4 platypus??

**patsycat** · 13-07-2016, 08:00 AM

There is the fact that you are Irish because you have it in your blood.

Or there is the Irish because you can.

My blood is Irish.

We, as a family including the Scottish ones, are really getting into the family tree and the roots.

It will be interesting. The outcome.

I may be a sort of Nordic wench. But the auburn hair must come from Ireland. But then we have blonds...

Whatever, very interesting. And something i would think Australians should look into. Just for the interest thing.

And they can probably go back in their history more than the seppos can.

With the fact they stole a loaf of bread or a chicken in the first place. There must be some sort of written thing about that.

LoyToy, there is a lot of history out there. At your fingertips.

Terry will hate this, having vetoed all alliances to the soap dodgers.

You may not get an Irish Passport, but just looking into your families history will be interesting- And also ask your still alive old relatives. they are an aussie pool of information. There is a lot of skeletons in my family, who cares?!

I actually have family in Australia- we know about each other but have never met.

Was that babble enough----?

**baldrick** · 13-07-2016, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

1/2 kangaroo, 1/4 blue heeler, 1/4 platypus??

thats a southerner

us northerners are 1/2 dingo , 1/4 cassowary and 1/4 crocodile

**AntRobertson** · 13-07-2016, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

cassowary

Evil, evil fecking things those!

Edit: actually that explains Pauline Hansen!

**Pragmatic** · 13-07-2016, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

You could be related to a war hero and a mafia member Prag

Either way Mr Norton I couldn't bring myself to benefit from name dropping.

**patsycat** · 13-07-2016, 08:49 AM

Wots a cassowary?

Has it got fur. I dont like feathers.

cummon, i can't be bothered googling.

Are you making fun, like the drop bears?

**AntRobertson** · 13-07-2016, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by patsycat

Wots a cassowary?

You'll be sorry you asked...

Gaze into the face of evil!

**AntRobertson** · 13-07-2016, 08:52 AM

"In his book Living Birds of the World from 1958, ornithologist Ernest Thomas Gilliard wrote:

The inner or second of the three toes is fitted with a long, straight, murderous nail which can sever an arm or eviscerate an abdomen with ease. There are many records of natives being killed by this bird".

**bobo746** · 13-07-2016, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

us northerners are 1/2 dingo , 1/4 cassowary and 1/4 crocodile

The breed us tough up here.

**patsycat** · 13-07-2016, 08:58 AM

And you are frightened by that wee birdy thing.

Reasons not to go to Australia

1 Flies
2. crocodiles
3 snakes
4 rather odd birds
5 men

Reasons not to go to Scotland

1. midges
2. midges
3. rain
4. rather odd birds
5 men

Oops, there are wallibies roaming around the highlands. Well fed. And of course, the haggis, during the month of August. fat and ripe for the picking.

**AntRobertson** · 13-07-2016, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by patsycat

And you are frightened by that wee birdy thing

Frightened?? Pfffffft, nah...

...more like fecking petrified!

**bobo746** · 13-07-2016, 09:01 AM

Yet bet patsy the are bad tempered and unpredictable.

**Cujo** · 13-07-2016, 09:01 AM

I've been chased by one of those fuckers.

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