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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Human science is self limiting since it relies on finite 'normal' sensory perception.

    The bottom line is we can't really be sure until we actually go there and see for ourselves.
    Science is not limited by sensory perception.

    If it were then we would not have proven theories of the space-time continuum model of the universe and proven theories of particle physics.

    Both of these realms are far outside the grasp of human senses or even common sense understanding yet we know them to be true by sober scientific experiment.

    You claim that you can 'explore' these realms when you are on a 'trip' but you only know about these realms because they have been proven by science already and you read about them in books and magazines while you were not on a trip and then imagined them when you were on a trip. But without the science to start with you would not have been able to imagine them when tripping because you would never have read about their reality in books and magazines.

    You are not 'sure' because you 'went there on trip' (does that idea sound familiar - yes it does because that is what religious people say to 'know' there is a god!). You are sure because you read it in a magazine and you then imagined it on a trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Human science is self limiting since it relies on finite 'normal' sensory perception.

    The bottom line is we can't really be sure until we actually go there and see for ourselves.
    Science is not limited by sensory perception.

    If it were then we would not have proven theories of the space-time continuum model of the universe and proven theories of particle physics.

    Both of these realms are far outside the grasp of human senses or even common sense understanding yet we know them to be true by sober scientific experiment.

    You claim that you can 'explore' these realms when you are on a 'trip' but you only know about these realms because they have been proven by science already and you read about them in books and magazines while you were not on a trip and then imagined them when you were on a trip. But without the science to start with you would not have been able to imagine them when tripping because you would never have read about their reality in books and magazines.

    You are not 'sure' because you 'went there on trip' (does that idea sound familiar - yes it does because that is what religious people say to 'know' there is a god!). You are sure because you read it in a magazine and you then imagined it on a trip.
    So it's seems you are saying, in a rather circuitous manner, that spirit doesn't exist because it has yet to be measured by earthly science...

    That be fine...whatever floats your canoe...
    Blind faith in something is preferable for some, rather than the somewhat nebulous and sometimes frightening exploration of the truly unknown.

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