The Donald thread, all things Trump.

[Dapper]

What's a a grave grave?
Sounds severe.

[Cujo]

America deserves to have The Donald as its next president.

Now that is a fair and sadly reflectionry fact.
May the American Phoenix rise from the ashes.
I'm almost dead, but that's my vote for the survival of humanity.

Maybe not humanity, but certainly civilisation as we know it.
Europe will never be the same, England either, they're losing their pedigree, their cultures are being diluted.
I foresee a protracted religious war. How long did the inquisition go on for, 400 years?
I guarantee at the beginning no one could foresee that madness would go on for 400 years.
As the world turns.
Things are changing and they'll never be the same.
Imagine a word dominated by the Chinese, a long term religious war, a chaotic Europe in a shambles and fortress U.S.A.

[Dapper]

America deserves to have The Donald as its next president.

Now that is a fair and sadly reflectionry fact.
May the American Phoenix rise from the ashes.
I'm almost dead, but that's my vote for the survival of humanity.

Imagine a word dominated by the Chinese, a long term religious war, a chaotic Europe in a shambles and fortress U.S.A.

You say it like it's a future possibility.
It' actually the current situation.

Who gives a monkeys anyway - beach this weekend

[Bogon]

The Power of Pie Charts


A few days ago Mr Trump (candidate for the American Presidency) suggested that British Police were too scared to walk through certain parts of London. Using the power of science I put together the following 'scientific' diagram to show that Americans must be much more scared of their own dogs.





Source - Political Blabberings: The Power of Pie Charts

[Cujo]

Trump ignores UK critics and claims country has 'a massive Muslim problem'
Republican frontrunner welcomes controversial British commentator’s support amid record-breaking campaign to bar him from the UK

Joanna Walters in New York

Donald Trump has hit back against UK critics of his stand against Islam, saying Britain had “a massive Muslim problem”.

The leading Republican presidential contender, who prompted outrage around the world on Monday by calling for Muslims to be barred from entering the United States following the San Bernardino shooting, also praised controversial British commentator Katie Hopkins after she supported his position in an interview on Fox News.

“The politicians of the UK should watch Katie Hopkins … many people in the UK agree with me,” Trump tweeted just after 6am ET.

In another tweet he said: “The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest.”

On Wednesday, Trump attracted a political backlash in Britain when he claimed there were parts of London so radicalised that police officers feared for their lives. The comments were rejected by Downing Street, which said they were “totally inaccurate”, and the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, who said they were “utter nonsense”.

The Scottish government has dropped Trump from his role as a business ambassador, and Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen has stripped him of his honorary degree.

On Thursday, Hopkins used an appearance on Fox to highlight a petition calling for Trump be banned from Britain following his inflammatory speech in South Carolina. Hopkins, who recently left the Sun newspaper for MailOnline, said: “A quarter of the population here in the UK are right behind Donald Trump.”

The petition become the most popular ever campaign on the UK government’s website on Thursday, beating the previous record of 446,482.

Nigel Farage, the leader of Ukip, a eurosceptic, anti-immigration party, has described Trump’s call to ban Muslims from the US as a “political mistake too far”. But Hopkins said of Ukip in her Fox interview: “60% of their membership are right behind Donald Trump as well.”

Hopkins is one of Britain’s most controversial columnists. She attracted a storm of protest before the last UK general election by implying that then Labour party leader Ed Miliband was on the autistic “spectrum” after one of his speeches.

She also provoked fury when she wrote in the Sun that European gunships should be used against migrants crossing the Mediterranean and compared the people fleeing war and poverty to cockroaches.


In his early-morning outpouring, Trump heaped praise on Hopkins. “Thank you to respected columnist Katie Hopkins … for her powerful writing on the UK’s Muslim problems,” he tweeted.

Trump ignores UK critics and claims country has 'a massive Muslim problem' | US news | The Guardian

One thing I like about him is that he's not intimidated by the the shout em down liberal/PC crowd. He calls it as he sees it regardless of the sensibilities of the the lefties who no doubt run for the fainting couch and smelling salts whenever he speaks.
Not good politics of course but that can only be a good thing.

[AntRobertson]

One thing I like about him is that he's not intimidated by the the shout em down liberal/PC crowd. He calls it as he sees it regardless of the sensibilities of the the lefties who no doubt run for the fainting couch and smelling salts whenever he speaks.

Another way of looking at that is that he calls it how he sees it regardless of the actual objective truth and that he's not intimidated by or even remotely concerned about facts.

For example his 'Muslims cheering 9/11' claim. Completely disproved but he just keeps on repeating it.

[rickschoppers]

Trump ignores UK critics and claims country has 'a massive Muslim problem'
Republican frontrunner welcomes controversial British commentator’s support amid record-breaking campaign to bar him from the UK

Joanna Walters in New York

Donald Trump has hit back against UK critics of his stand against Islam, saying Britain had “a massive Muslim problem”.

The leading Republican presidential contender, who prompted outrage around the world on Monday by calling for Muslims to be barred from entering the United States following the San Bernardino shooting, also praised controversial British commentator Katie Hopkins after she supported his position in an interview on Fox News.

“The politicians of the UK should watch Katie Hopkins … many people in the UK agree with me,” Trump tweeted just after 6am ET.

In another tweet he said: “The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest.”

On Wednesday, Trump attracted a political backlash in Britain when he claimed there were parts of London so radicalised that police officers feared for their lives. The comments were rejected by Downing Street, which said they were “totally inaccurate”, and the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, who said they were “utter nonsense”.

The Scottish government has dropped Trump from his role as a business ambassador, and Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen has stripped him of his honorary degree.

On Thursday, Hopkins used an appearance on Fox to highlight a petition calling for Trump be banned from Britain following his inflammatory speech in South Carolina. Hopkins, who recently left the Sun newspaper for MailOnline, said: “A quarter of the population here in the UK are right behind Donald Trump.”

The petition become the most popular ever campaign on the UK government’s website on Thursday, beating the previous record of 446,482.

Nigel Farage, the leader of Ukip, a eurosceptic, anti-immigration party, has described Trump’s call to ban Muslims from the US as a “political mistake too far”. But Hopkins said of Ukip in her Fox interview: “60% of their membership are right behind Donald Trump as well.”

Hopkins is one of Britain’s most controversial columnists. She attracted a storm of protest before the last UK general election by implying that then Labour party leader Ed Miliband was on the autistic “spectrum” after one of his speeches.

She also provoked fury when she wrote in the Sun that European gunships should be used against migrants crossing the Mediterranean and compared the people fleeing war and poverty to cockroaches.


In his early-morning outpouring, Trump heaped praise on Hopkins. “Thank you to respected columnist Katie Hopkins … for her powerful writing on the UK’s Muslim problems,” he tweeted.

Trump ignores UK critics and claims country has 'a massive Muslim problem' | US news | The Guardian

One thing I like about him is that he's not intimidated by the the shout em down liberal/PC crowd. He calls it as he sees it regardless of the sensibilities of the the lefties who no doubt run for the fainting couch and smelling salts whenever he speaks.
Not good politics of course but that can only be a good thing.

If you were to see who actually signed the petition, you would know 99.9% of the signatures were muslims.

[taxexile]

what trump is doing is cutting his own throat, but in doing so he is saying the unsayable and challenging the ridiculous atmosphere of political correctness that pervades our societies these days and stifles free speech.

he should be allowed to speak his mind. after all, the hate preachers are still allowed a stage and he is just a far less dangerous version of them.

[Cujo]

^ What he said.

One thing I like about him is that he's not intimidated by the the shout em down liberal/PC crowd. He calls it as he sees it regardless of the sensibilities of the the lefties who no doubt run for the fainting couch and smelling salts whenever he speaks.

Another way of looking at that is that he calls it how he sees it regardless of the actual objective truth and that he's not intimidated by or even remotely concerned about facts.

For example his 'Muslims cheering 9/11' claim. Completely disproved but he just keeps on repeating it.

That's another thing I like about him, his entertainment value. I'm gobsmacked that such a political buffoon got this far.

[Cujo]

Trump ignores UK critics and claims country has 'a massive Muslim problem'
Republican frontrunner welcomes controversial British commentator’s support amid record-breaking campaign to bar him from the UK

Joanna Walters in New York

Donald Trump has hit back against UK critics of his stand against Islam, saying Britain had “a massive Muslim problem”.

The leading Republican presidential contender, who prompted outrage around the world on Monday by calling for Muslims to be barred from entering the United States following the San Bernardino shooting, also praised controversial British commentator Katie Hopkins after she supported his position in an interview on Fox News.

“The politicians of the UK should watch Katie Hopkins … many people in the UK agree with me,” Trump tweeted just after 6am ET.

In another tweet he said: “The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest.”

On Wednesday, Trump attracted a political backlash in Britain when he claimed there were parts of London so radicalised that police officers feared for their lives. The comments were rejected by Downing Street, which said they were “totally inaccurate”, and the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, who said they were “utter nonsense”.

The Scottish government has dropped Trump from his role as a business ambassador, and Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen has stripped him of his honorary degree.

On Thursday, Hopkins used an appearance on Fox to highlight a petition calling for Trump be banned from Britain following his inflammatory speech in South Carolina. Hopkins, who recently left the Sun newspaper for MailOnline, said: “A quarter of the population here in the UK are right behind Donald Trump.”

The petition become the most popular ever campaign on the UK government’s website on Thursday, beating the previous record of 446,482.

Nigel Farage, the leader of Ukip, a eurosceptic, anti-immigration party, has described Trump’s call to ban Muslims from the US as a “political mistake too far”. But Hopkins said of Ukip in her Fox interview: “60% of their membership are right behind Donald Trump as well.”

Hopkins is one of Britain’s most controversial columnists. She attracted a storm of protest before the last UK general election by implying that then Labour party leader Ed Miliband was on the autistic “spectrum” after one of his speeches.

She also provoked fury when she wrote in the Sun that European gunships should be used against migrants crossing the Mediterranean and compared the people fleeing war and poverty to cockroaches.


In his early-morning outpouring, Trump heaped praise on Hopkins. “Thank you to respected columnist Katie Hopkins … for her powerful writing on the UK’s Muslim problems,” he tweeted.

Trump ignores UK critics and claims country has 'a massive Muslim problem' | US news | The Guardian

One thing I like about him is that he's not intimidated by the the shout em down liberal/PC crowd. He calls it as he sees it regardless of the sensibilities of the the lefties who no doubt run for the fainting couch and smelling salts whenever he speaks.
Not good politics of course but that can only be a good thing.

If you were to see who actually signed the petition, you would know 99.9% of the signatures were muslims.

So you've seen the petition?

[AntRobertson]

I'm gobsmacked that such a political buffoon got this far.

Me too. Keep waiting for the whole thing to implode and it just keeps on keeping on.

[Storekeeper]

I generally enjoy the Donald's provocative lines of rhetoric but I think he has jumped the shark this time, which is a shame as it was an entertaining run.

Admiral McRaven Slams Trump Proposal - The Daily Beast


"The former Navy admiral credited with coordinating the operations that captured Saddam Hussein and killed Osama bin Laden does not like Donald Trump’s proposal to ban all Muslim immigration to the United States. Appearing at the Women in the World Texas event this week, retired Adm. William McRaven said, “We cannot restrict Muslims from coming into the United States." He suggested ISIS has won when the United States no longer acts as a free, open society".

[kingwilly]

and that he has made some good business moves.

multiple filings for bankruptcy are good business moves?

[AntRobertson]

and that he has made some good business moves.

multiple filings for bankruptcy are good business moves?

Getting a loan from daddy is.

Someone posted a meme a whiles back showing that if he'd invested that initial loan in a standard account or something he'd have more cash than he does now.

[Cujo]

I'm gobsmacked that such a political buffoon got this far.

Me too. Keep waiting for the whole thing to implode and it just keeps on keeping on.

Tells us a lot about his fan base. (would constituency be the right term?)

[kingwilly]

Someone posted a meme a whiles back showing that if he'd invested that initial loan in a standard account or something he'd have more cash than he does now.

Yep, saw that.

[AntRobertson]

Tells us a lot about his fan base. (would constituency be the right term?)

I dunno really, prefer fan base myself because that's what it seems like.

He might give voice to things they're thinking but other than that it's hard to comprehend how people could be so blind and can't see that he's just an overgrown spoiled baby and diametrically opposed to their own best interests if they were anything other than fans.

[Cujo]

and that he has made some good business moves.

multiple filings for bankruptcy are good business moves?

Getting a loan from daddy is.

Someone posted a meme a whiles back showing that if he'd invested that initial loan in a standard account or something he'd have more cash than he does now.

It was something like 6 Billion more. It must be true, I saw it on the internet.

[Storekeeper]

and that he has made some good business moves.

multiple filings for bankruptcy are good business moves?

Getting a loan from daddy is.

Someone posted a meme a whiles back showing that if he'd invested that initial loan in a standard account or something he'd have more cash than he does now.

It was something like 6 Billion more. It must be true, I saw it on the internet.

It's in the political cartoon thread.

[AntRobertson]

Some interesting comments:

Thus, as has been pointed out, Trump's anti-Muslim demagoguery plays into Isis' hands: in tone and content his outbursts reinforce the Isis narrative that Muslims and non-Muslims are mutually incompatible and therefore on a collision course.

Deep down Trump may know or suspect this but, being an egomaniac - if not a megalomaniac - who believes the end justifies the means, he has no qualms about inciting fear and loathing of Muslims and pandering to America's considerable reserves of paranoia.

So Trump goes up in the polls, his supporters are reassured that someone's taking their concerns seriously and Isis' strategy is working.

Paul Thomas: Trump rhetoric sideshow to Islam's Isis problem - World - NZ Herald News

Same as it ever was though really. Right-wingers and today's merry band of terrorists du jour have always been two sides of the same coin and in a symbiotic relationship.

[Storekeeper]

^ Listening to Trump speak makes you wonder how he ever got through school. He sounds dumb as a box of rocks. Guess he was smart enough to hire others to run everything.

[slackula]

Someone posted a meme a whiles back showing that if he'd invested that initial loan in a standard account or something he'd have more cash than he does now.

I posted a 'back of envelop' sketch of his fortunes a while ago:

Trump was given millions of dollars of seed money in 1974! If he'd have just taken that money and dumped it into a an index fund he'd have more than double the money he CLAIMS to have now, not actually has.

Find an online app, which allows you to put the amount of money in question and the year it was invested and gives you the current value, based on whether you bought into either a stock index fund tied to the S&P 500, or the DJIA. (BTW, the calculator I used I found at DQYDJ.com, also adjusts for inflation)

The estimates for the value of the Trump Company, which Donald assumed control of in 1974, range between $40 Million and $200 Million (in 1974 dollars).

If he had simply liquidated the company and invested those proceeds in a stock index fund tied to the S&P 500 the Trump company's total value by 2014 (40 yrs of growth) would be between: (based on $40M low end to $200M high end) - $17.4 BILLION to $87 BILLION.

With the reinvestment of all dividends, the value would skyrocket to between $66.8 BILLION and $334 BILLION, making him the richest person in the world.

Based on stock market performance over the last 40 years, he should have seen at least an increase of value of his company by 34 times its original value! Yet he's managed to only increase it by ~10 times its original value.

You get similar numbers using the DJIA calculator.

https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3087938 (2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates)

[AntRobertson]

Ah danke, well there you have it.

It would be interesting if you could model his fortunes based on him not having been born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

[Norton]

fans

I would call them customers. Given his busness success, Trump knows how to satisfy his customers. He is pandering to what is a relatively small percent of the electorate.

Republicans are about 40% of the total electorate. Trump at 35% of Republicans leads the pack which equates to 14% of the total electorate. For now he's getting a huge amount of press coverage but as others catch him he'll get less.

Rubio is gaining fast. I predict Trump will not be the GOP candidate and will, in spite of his pledge not to run as an independent, his ego will prompt him to do so. In CNN interview he is already setting the stage to run as an independent. Basically stating he will if not treated fairly by the GOP. "Fairly" being as defined by Trump to be sure.

[harrybarracuda]

Donald Trump has pulled out of a Golf development project in Argyll through fears of attack from radical jihadist Mullah Kintyre.