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    Forced (child) labour!

    The punishment for your child thread got me to thinking.

    Do parents have the right to insist their children perform labour agains their will.
    Tidy their room and make their bed for example, or more laborious tasks like doing the dishes for example, it is, after all, nothing more than forced child labour.
    What do you think.
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    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India

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    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Whereas I think suggesting that slapping a naughty child is abuse cheapens the very real issue of genuine abuse that occurs worldwide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonraker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Whereas I think suggesting that slapping a naughty child is abuse cheapens the very real issue of genuine abuse that occurs worldwide.
    How droll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Boo fucken hoo for christs sake, it's a subject for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Boo fucken hoo for christs sake, it's a subject for discussion.
    I sorta guessed this was a troll OP, but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, silly me.

    Shall we MKP this shite now or later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
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    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Boo fucken hoo for christs sake, it's a subject for discussion.
    I sorta guessed this was a troll OP, but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, silly me.

    Shall we MKP this shite now or later?
    Well do you?
    (think it's acceptable to force your children to do domestic labour?)
    On the one hand they should learn the value of work and learn to contribute and so on.
    On the other, they're not indentured servants.
    I Think it's an interesting and difficult question.
    What's your problem monkey boy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post

    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Hear Hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
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    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Hear Hear
    Nevertheless, there it is and neither of you has answered the question.
    Is it acceptable to force your children, under threat of punishment, (physical punishment, with holding of privaledges etc) to perform labour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post

    I think suggesting the household chores are child labour cheapens the very real issue of child labour that is particularly prevalent in Indonesia & India
    Hear Hear

    Is that it? I think children at home should be encouraged to help with the household chores - they often want to anyway

    it gives them a sense of achievement and helps them become independent

    I am not sure why Koojo calls it child labour, even if, as a teenager, they decide they don't want to help anymore

    gentle persuasion (like an allownace) seems to work in those cases
    I have reported your post

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    Hitting your daughter is ineffective, has no positive consequences for her and teaches her exactly the wrong lessons about the world. But expecting her to make her own bed is (usually) effective, has positive consequences, and teaches her generally worthwhile lessons about the world. More generally, the fact that some people think you don't have the right to use violence against your children (in addition to being wrong for a whole host of other reasons) does not mean that you have no right (or more importantly, obligation) to compel your children to act in certain ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo

    Is it acceptable to force your children, under threat of punishment, (physical punishment, with holding of privileges etc) to perform labour?
    yes , as this teaches children the value of team work and bonds the family unit .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo

    Is it acceptable to force your children, under threat of punishment, (physical punishment, with holding of privileges etc) to perform labour?
    yes , as this teaches children the value of team work and bonds the family unit .
    Which is usually missed in this day and age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Shall we MKP this shite now or later?
    at least Mid agreed with you and hasn't given you a red!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
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    Shall we MKP this shite now or later?
    at least Mid agreed with you and hasn't given you a red!
    Funnily enough we hold similar views on a number of issues, but I'm sure if I correct his English he'll get shirty and I can wind him up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    The punishment for your child thread got me to thinking.

    Do parents have the right to insist their children perform labour agains their will.
    Tidy their room and make their bed for example, or more laborious tasks like doing the dishes for example, it is, after all, nothing more than forced child labour.
    What do you think.
    Too right.
    I give my staff holidays, when the kids are on school holidays.

    What a bargain.

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    Koojo, I can only hope that you are not a parent to some child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBobThai View Post
    Koojo, I can only hope that you are not a parent to some child.
    What a stupid thing to say.
    Based on what?

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    Hmmm, I just got a red and a green for same post in this thread, the guilty shall remain nameless, except he say heh...heh.. a lot, I'm not sure if it's tourettes or a sign of a lack of intellect.

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    Why not reverse the question.
    Should parents be the servants of their children ?
    "You treat this place like a hotel."

    Myself I consider learning household tasks part of a parents job to teach the child.
    I am sure we all knew somebody who could not cook operate a washing machine nor change a plug.

    The parents were at fault. They are supposed to bring the child up.

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with a few chores, I mean, they expect to be fed and clothed and what not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwarner
    I don't think there's anything wrong with a few chores, I mean, they expect to be fed and clothed and what not.
    Correct. I scratch your back and you clean up your fucking room. Tisn't a hard notion to get to grips with.

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    It's also a valuable life lesson. Unfortunately my Mrs. doesn't quite share my point of view so she wastes masses of time chasing round after little lord Fauntleroy when she should be doing things for me.

    for shame.

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    bit o work never did anyone any harm.
    especially if they get pocket money.

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